12FG, 12Z, 14MZ, FX40 module programming

[MZFAN]

Hi everybody,
I have some very good news!
Thanks to somebody's feedback after using the module programmer, I can provide you with new area code settings that will make your module usable in your radio WHATEVER ITS AEREA SETTING IS!!!

Basically, instead of using some code like 00, 01, 02, 03 ... 0A for the area setting you just have to use codes like these: 80, 81, 82, 83 .... 8A. Just replace the first 0 with a 8 and you can use your module with any area radio!
The table provided in the download file become this:

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You still have to match the area with your module frequency according to this table. For exemple it won't work if you choose 82 (Europe) for the area and 07 (72MHz) for the frequency as there isn't any 72 MHz in Europe area.

I am still looking for other codes like one that will allow to use a 40MHz (or 41MHz) module for both 40 and 41MHz bands in Europe. I am pretty sure these modules are hardware identical.
If you have seen this done, please PM me.:wink:

Caution:
Even if you can easily change module frequency from 40 to 72MHz it is better not to do it as there could be some hardware differences (filter setting). If you do it anyway do some extensive range check before flying.
There is no problem between 40 and 41MHz (tested) and probably not between 35 and 36 MHz too.

[sambogosse]

Wow, so that means there is still to find a "zone" in the radio which would allow ALL frequency bands to be used - maybe it exists in the radio - and you will have mastered the frequency problems with the 14MZ ;o)

Great Job !

[MarkD]

Well thinking about it there must be as Futaba has to test each region and from my experience with software it easier to programme in an 'All bucket' and then restrict the regions later after testing

BTW I don't see them as Freq problems - It's a necessity as in we drive on the left and you on the right

[Skymax]

hi, anybody have try with TM-14 module plz ?

[MZFAN]

Originally Posted by Skymax

hi, anybody have try with TM-14 module plz ?

Hi,
With the 2.4GHz module no try yet... I don't have one but if you want to send one to me I will!!!

[DDJ]

Thanks a lot to you both. I'll try and build it and see what happens.

[DDJ]

Originally Posted by MZFAN

Hi DDJ,
There are some commercial eeprom programmer that generally come with their own software. You have to check before buying that they can program a microwire 93C46 or 9346 eeprom.
If you downloaded the file I provided you should have the schematic for a simplified board, combining the base board and the microwire board.
There is nothing much in it but if electronic is not your friend try to find somebody around you who can make the board for you.:wink:

Hi MZFAN

In the picture of the pc board you have the black wire in pin 8 & the red in pin 5. Your common neg in the pic seems to be black, next to the cap. Is this right ? Please supply some more pics if possible. Also, I can't seem to open the new freq. table. Sorry for asking so many stupid questions ! Just don't want to damage the module. Thanks

[Skymax]

Originally Posted by MZFAN

Hi,
With the 2.4GHz module no try yet... I don't have one but if you want to send one to me I will!!!

Mine it's always on my local futaba distributor , he try to modify it .

[MZFAN]

Originally Posted by DDJ

Hi MZFAN

In the picture of the pc board you have the black wire in pin 8 & the red in pin 5. Your common neg in the pic seems to be black, next to the cap. Is this right ? Please supply some more pics if possible. Also, I can't seem to open the new freq. table. Sorry for asking so many stupid questions ! Just don't want to damage the module. Thanks

What do you mean you can't open the new table? It is just a jpg file.. Just click on it on this thread and it will appear bigger. Then right click on it and choose Save the picture....

I did check again and always see the black, pin 5 from the eeprom, connected to the left of the connector and then just to the right, the red, pin 8 from the eeprom.
Perhaps you were confused with the DB9 connector pin number?
The number on this schematic correspond to the eeprom pins.

[MZFAN]

Originally Posted by Skymax

Mine it's always on my local futaba distributor , he try to modify it .

Even if the 2.4GHz module is more complicated, it is possible it uses the same eeprom to store area and frequency information...
Anyway, good luck.

[DDJ]

Hi MZFAN

Just a big up to you and everyone who answered all my questions ! I've built it and it works ! I'm going to mill a box where the module just clips in on top and a DB9 on the side. That way, you just drop the module in and hook the serial cable up for programming. I post some pics sometime. Anyway, I'll try the 82 codes too.

Thanks again.

[sinver]

Originally Posted by DDJ

Hi MZFAN

Basically, instead of using some code like 00, 01, 02, 03 ... 0A for the area setting you just have to use codes like these: 80, 81, 82, 83 .... 8A. Just replace the first 0 with a 8 and you can use your module with any area radio!
The table provided in the download file become this:


Thanks again.

I think that this same would have to of operating for the modules of 2,4Ghz

Regards !!!

[DDJ]

Hi guys

Just some pics of module programmer. This makes it very quick and easy to program the eeprom. I have a lot of friends with radios from HK and this box saves you from checking which pin goes where everytime. I used engineer's pvc which machines very easy.

[sinver]

Originally Posted by DDJ

Hi guys

Just some pics of module programmer. This makes it very quick and easy to program the eeprom. I have a lot of friends with radios from HK and this box saves you from checking which pin goes where everytime. I used engineer's pvc which machines very easy.

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Hi DDJ,

Excellent work !!! :wink:

A question, please

if your programs that module ( 35Mhz HK ) and you let it free, you can transmit with the same radio ( HK ) in the channels of all the band of 35Mhz ?

thanks & regards !!!!

[DDJ]

Originally Posted by sinver

Hi DDJ,

Excellent work !!! :wink:

A question, please

if your programs that module ( 35Mhz HK ) and you let it free, you can transmit with the same radio ( HK ) in the channels of all the band of 35Mhz ?

thanks & regards !!!!

Hi sinver

No, you still have to set the region to Europe. But that's pretty easy now.

DDJ

[sinver]

Originally Posted by DDJ

Hi sinver

No, you still have to set the region to Europe. But that's pretty easy now.

DDJ

But then, it does not serve to configure the module as European because the radio not will recognize it, it is not thus ?

How it can be changed the region in the radio ? (my radio is one new Futaba 12FG)

regards !!!!

[DDJ]

sinver

On the 12Z and 14MZ you have to match the region to the module. Or use the "8" codes and still match the band setting bit in the eeprom.
OK ?

[DDJ]

sinver

What region is your radio now and what freq. is your module ? What freq. do you want ?

[sinver]

Originally Posted by DDJ

sinver

On the 12Z and 14MZ you have to match the region to the module. Or use the "8" codes and still match the band setting bit in the eeprom.
OK ?

ok, but my radio is fixed in Hong Kong region

I can not select other region in my 12FG

I understand as reprogrammer my module HK in European region but not the radio

regards !!!!

[apleichau]

I have successfully reprogrammed my module of 35MZ HK version to 35MZ European version with all 35MZ European channels with "82" code and can be used in my 12FG tansmitter of Hong Kong region.