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01-22-2015, 11:48 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Servo access tips?
Working on the servos to replace gears, etc. is a total pain on the warp. I generally have to take the motor out to remove the ele. I remove the radio tray in order to remove the ales. Then getting them remounted with the infernal shims requires like 4 hands.
Given how the warp likes to eat servo gears this is starting to make me dislike the model, which makes me sad. So I'm looking for any tips you guys have for accessing the servos so I will stop thinking about selling it. |
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01-22-2015, 02:18 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Yep, those washers can be a bit tricky, i use some thin tweezers and a nice dose of pacience.
But one thing that minimizes SO MUCH gear breakage is modding your servo arms to break on impact. I'm using MKS servo arms, and put a nice cut on each side of the arm with a triangular small file. Never had any issue in flight. The drawback is that they sometime break on some wilder tipovers, but i prefer that then being changing gears. On the elevator servo, if using MKS style , you may let the top case in the frame and just remove the "gear side" of the servo.
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01-22-2015, 02:50 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Witch servo's do you use?
I'm using the MKS DS92a+ and are fine. Had one time stripped gears because a servo horn snapt during a quick flip with the machine. After that i put the carbon stiffners on the horns and new gears in de mks servo's ... and it's flying great. The stiffners really work. And yes, replacing gears means that you have to take everything of the machine... but how the machine fly's makes everything good |
01-22-2015, 03:38 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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95 s on mine mine.
Do you fly with very poppy cyclic?
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01-22-2015, 03:45 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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What do you mean with poppy? .. ( my translate machine think Poppy is a flower haha )
I'm flying with MSH Brain fbl unit and use 3D / Hard 3D Flight-mode. So a lot of agility on the cyclic And 12 degrees on pitch and 8 on cyclic. So just normal settings. |
01-22-2015, 03:51 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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ds95 and ds95i. I have had very bad luck with them. 7 sets striped gears and 2 completely dead units in 3 crashes. I got tired of the replacement costs and will be switching to OMGs the next time I have it apart. Until then I'm just going to fly the 95s. Replacing the gears ain't so bad, but I can't handle having to replace entire units at nearly $100 each.
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01-22-2015, 04:15 PM | #7 (permalink) | ||
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8 cyclic is not that hard, not into what those Brain settings translate into real vividness. Quote:
My experience is the total opposite. Once in a crash, maybe 2 years ago, the main shaft got bent and was putting high pressure on the servos. I didn't disconected the pack right away and when i was showing the crashed heli to my buddies, maybe like 5 minutes later i noticed the servos were burning hot. I disconected them and thought: Well bye bye top end servos... I still fly the same servos, they are the ones that went to my Warp from day one, 0 dead servos in thousands of flights. My ds95 experience in one word: perfection Sad to hear your bad experience, it's very worrying to see these day&night different experiences with the same product.
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01-22-2015, 04:42 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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The fronts aren't that hard to get out since they are held on by the front panel. The panel can be removed with minimum effort.
The back is a bit more of a pain. What you can do is unscrew/remove the front servo arm. Then unscrew the 4 long screws that hold the servo together. Then just slide the servo out and leave the front of the servo still screwed to the frame. |
01-22-2015, 07:07 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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I'm sure it was just how I happened to crash. But still left a bad taste. I'm afraid I'm done with them. At least until I crash less anyway. My skills aren't up to appreciating them yet anyways.
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01-22-2015, 07:17 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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I assume by "front panel" you are referring to the CF piece that is bolted to the front of the top and bottom bearing blocks and holds the two ale servos? I don't how you could call removing that as "minimum effort" You have to remove the radio tray to get access to the bottom bearing block bolts. Is there some trick to this?
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01-23-2015, 08:41 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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01-23-2015, 12:27 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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The way I have electronics on the radio tray makes it annoying to move. Guess I need to correct that.
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01-23-2015, 12:33 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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Like gravidjunky said,
i can tip my fbl unit tray and use a long screwdriver to unscrew the bottom bolts of the servo holder. |
01-23-2015, 03:56 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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You can also pop the head off(one bolt), pull out the 8 bolts that hold the upper/lower bearing blocks, and then you can slide up the whole front servo plate up and out to work on the servos.
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01-25-2015, 12:01 AM | #15 (permalink) | |
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When I initially tried a set of TGY-306HV, I had 1 bad servo and almost gave up on them. Bought a few more and they have been FLAWLESS...even work good on the tail. Had about 50 flights on my warp with them (cyclic+tail) and they have worked great. All I do is remove the bottom servo portion, add electrical tape between the circuit board and aluminum bottom case (newer servos seem to have silicone sealant on the problem areas although its still good to check), add threadlock to the removed screws and reassemble. Also ran a full set of 4 on a Gaui X3 with about 30 flights, no issues, putting them on my 2nd warp Now also using them on my 300X and 300CFX tails, will try a 300x build with them on the cyclic and if I can live with the weight increase, will make them the only servo I use on my 300x, 300cfx and warp.
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01-25-2015, 01:23 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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I have had the elevator servo out on one of my Warps and back in with no issues (I will have to look at how I mounted it).
I also run JR 285MG servos-the specs are not as torqy and quick as some others but the gear train is absolutely stout! I put in another brand of 450 equipped with 285MG's on the head due to dumb thumbs and (also due to dumb thumbs) still in idle up-no broken servo gears!
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