HC3 SX Left Sat Port Not Working (SOLVED) but strange

[steven0db]

I understand perfectly what's going on with port 2 - I found the problem when no one could tell me what was going on. Then after I share it just to be told "you should check the diagram" when it doesn't state anywhere that the unit can be damaged.

Originally Posted by Shtumpa

I can see your getting frustrated here, but an attitude like that i would not bother giving you an answer either ..

Why is it that your the only one that has a problem understanding whats going on with port 2, maybe if you have a friend with some experiance in electronics, that would be of help to you.

[Shtumpa]

Originally Posted by steven0db

I understand perfectly what's going on with port 2 - I found the problem when no one could tell me what was going on. Then after I share it just to be told "you should check the diagram" when it doesn't state anywhere that the unit can be damaged.

If it's working it's fine .. Enjoy ... The impatience and beligerante attitude probably didn't help :-)

Glad you have it sorted now ..

EDIT: From that maual > Page 5

A further channel is also externally available, output 2, e.g. for a speed controller, illumination accessories or retractable gear. This channel supplies only the signal pin. If necessary, connect the power supply via a Y-cable. " How could that be more simple to understand ? "

[steven0db]

Well, you clearly haven't read my past posts as I have already quoted the below from the manual and explained my position. You have just read the last post, didn't like my tone so you thought you would just have a go as well.

I'm not flying this gasser until Helicommand can tell me it's safe to do so... If they tell me it's fine then I will go and fly. If they tell me I have damaged it then I will sent it back and PAY for the repair.

Originally Posted by Shtumpa

If it's working it's fine .. Enjoy ... The impatience and beligerante attitude probably didn't help :-)

Glad you have it sorted now ..

EDIT: From that maual > Page 5

A further channel is also externally available, output 2, e.g. for a speed controller, illumination accessories or retractable gear. This channel supplies only the signal pin. If necessary, connect the power supply via a Y-cable. " How could that be more simple to understand ? "

[Shtumpa]

Originally Posted by steven0db

Well, you clearly haven't read my past posts as I have already quoted the below from the manual and explained my position. You have just read the last post, didn't like my tone so you thought you would just have a go as well.

I'm not flying this gasser until Helicommand can tell me it's safe to do so... If they tell me it's fine then I will go and fly. If they tell me I have damaged it then I will sent it back and PAY for the repair.

Best to play it safe .. :-) and i did read all the ranting .. Hope it turns out ok ,,

[steven0db]

I totally disagree with your analogy..

This is only an example of a warning label that should be on the unit or in big print in the front of the manual.

There is no question that there is NO power on those 2 pins. However, if you plug a governor lead into that port that fortuitously has parallel power on it (power shared on the same system bus) it will cause the unit left sat receiver to stop sending data to the HC3 SX. I assume those 2 pins are going to be used for future upgrades and reserved for data use only. so accidentally supplying power to those pins will cause the internally processing to ignore data from the left RX Sat and god knows what else is going on..

My point is the manual says “This channel supplies only the signal pin. If necessary, connect the power supply via a Y-cable” tells me there is no power available for any devices plugged into that channel, as we talked about above, and you will need to supply power elsewhere. It should state that if you plug a lead into it that accidentally shares the same power bus that it will cause the HC3 SX to malfunction.

Steve

Originally Posted by Shtumpa

Your statement > "WARNING - DO NOT PLUG ANYTHING INTO OUTPUT 2 THAT MAY HAVE POWER ON IT. THE HC3SX WILL MALFUNCTION IF YOU DO..."

HC3SX WILL MALFUNCTION IF YOU DO, All that means is, what ever you plug into port 2 wont have any power to it, IE: It wont work, so becasue there is no black (-) or red (+) wire connected to port 2 inside the unit, ie: the port received no Power when you pugged it in, There will be NO DAMAGE to the unit ..

So it's working now i assume, so go and FLY ..

[Shtumpa]

Originally Posted by steven0db

I totally disagree with your analogy..

This is only an example of a warning label that should be on the unit or in big print in the front of the manual.

There is no question that there is NO power on those 2 pins. However, if you plug a governor lead into that port that fortuitously has parallel power on it (power shared on the same system bus) it will cause the unit left sat receiver to stop sending data to the HC3 SX. I assume those 2 pins are going to be used for future upgrades and reserved for data use only. so accidentally supplying power to those pins will cause the internally processing to ignore data from the left RX Sat and god knows what else is going on..

My point is the manual says “This channel supplies only the signal pin. If necessary, connect the power supply via a Y-cable” tells me there is no power available for any devices plugged into that channel, as we talked about above, and you will need to supply power elsewhere. It should state that if you plug a lead into it that accidentally shares the same power bus that it will cause the HC3 SX to malfunction.

Steve

Kewl, i hope you get it sorted :-)

[Joachim HC]

Originally Posted by steven0db

You're missing my point.. It's a three pin port and there is nothing in the manual that states that if you accidentally supply power to this port from a parallel power source that it will stop data from your left sat receiver and/or cause possible damage to the unit.

Secondly, the HC3 SX is so simple to use that you would not consult the manual some 6 months later to simply plug a governor lead into output 2. That's why there should be a warning label, not just a simple gray out of red and black in a diagram: that says to me nothing other than that there is no power there, not that you shouldn't connect a lead that may have power...

Something like this might have been clearer:

"WARNING - DO NOT PLUG ANYTHING INTO OUTPUT 2 THAT MAY HAVE POWER ON IT. THE HC3SX WILL MALFUNCTION IF YOU DO..."
OR
"Please consult the manufactures documentation to make sure there is no power on the governor lead, or please cut both the power cables to be certain."

Either of these messages are better than just a simple colour change in the diagram of the pins. Note, there are no wires in the diagram either.

It won't get damaged, as these ports are protected against this. That's why nothing is mentioned cause it does not matter. But I would simply split the cable on two connectors. Feels better
Sorry for missing this detail in the manual.

Originally Posted by steven0db

And I bet this question will never get answered.. Have I done any damage to HC3SX??????????

Cannot tell from the distance, but if you simply applied power to these ports above output2, no, I am sure you did not damage your HC3-SX due to that.

Joachim

[steven0db]

No problem and thanks for the reply Joachim
Just out of curiosity why does the HC3 stop seeing data from the left sat when power is applied to those 2 pins?
Sorry for the ranting
Steve

Originally Posted by Joachim HC

It won't get damaged, as these ports are protected against this. That's why nothing is mentioned cause it does not matter. But I would simply split the cable on two connectors. Feels better
Sorry for missing this detail in the manual.



Cannot tell from the distance, but if you simply applied power to these ports above output2, no, I am sure you did not damage your HC3-SX due to that.

Joachim