Lipo battery fire turned into Garage Explosion

[EviLSiN]

I'm done. I'll let you experts argue over if this happened or not. Or if it's possible.
It's obvious that some people are just too thick.

[backburner1955]

Originally Posted by EviLSiN

I'm done. I'll let you experts argue over if this happened or not. Or if it's possible.
It's obvious that some people are just too thick.

What makes you the expert and who says that you are not the thick one... Look at both sides of the page here.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by Larry227

By sealed do you mean airtight? If so then how do you get the charging leads into an airtight container and keep it airtight?

You can't charge in an airtight box but you can store them in one and when something else causes a fire that overheats the box...BOOM.
I even see a large blackened square on the back wall where something square was.
What was there?

I see all kinds of rattle cans and stuff in the pics but no lipo.
If the power supply shorted and caught fire and a can of ether was sitting on it...maybe.

[cmoney79]

only part of lipo I could find and it was under the colapsed garage. I said I think it was the can of spray paint that cause the damage but the fire cheif says it was the battery but he seems to lack knowlege on lipo batteries. If you think I am just posting this to get a rise I can give your the report # and you can pay ten bucks and get it yourself. I have been using this setup to charge my 6s 5000mAH for 5 year in fact I charge my 3 other Thunder Power that exact same setting just before. Never had an issue before.

[backburner1955]

Well then it appears that the Zippy pack was the beginning of the problem, I just dont see a single paint can having that much explosive force.

[cmoney79]

you live less then 10 minutes come check it out for yourself expert

[SAR1]

I don't doubt that the lipo could have been the ignition source, but I don't think there is any way that the lipo alone caused all the damage. There had to be some other source of fumes or other substance to create enough explosive force to do this sort of damage.

As for the mythbusters, they also set off multiple explosive charges simultaneously in efforts to paint the interior of a room that was constructed in the same manner as a normal house with 2x4's, sheetrock, plywood, windows, and doors. It didn't blow the door apart during that.

And if you think this is an "innocent until proven guilty" country, try explaining that to the IRS. If they say you're guilty of owing them money, you're treated as guilty with asset seizure and jail until you "prove" you're innocent.

P.S. I'm glad no one was hurt regardless of what caused this.

[Creaky Cactus]

I am glad that no one was injured.

[backburner1955]

Originally Posted by cmoney79

you live less then 10 minutes come check it out for yourself expert

Um, me? I am about 4 - 5 hours from you bro.

[cmoney79]

Originally Posted by ephit

+1. One up for bs

Originally Posted by backburner1955

Um, me? I am about 4 - 5 hours from you bro.

It was meant for the guy that live in Perris CA

[chuckles_hp19]

play nicely everyone,
glad everyone is OK,
I hope no helis were harmed in the creation of this accident lol
seeing things like this, genuine or otherwise, reminds me to treat lipos with respect, just like all heli gear.

[MXRACERX43]

The OP must be into motorcycles or ATV's....I see a grunge brush!

[Jskrapper]

Meth Lab.


J/K. No matter what caused it, we are all glad you, and everyone else is ok.

[Finless]

Originally Posted by ping

That is a very dangerous setup especially for charging such a large pack. If one of the cells gets out of balance the blinky can do nothing to get it back when your pumping 2 amps into the pack.

Exactly! I personally now 3 people now that have had flame on using that charger. What I have heard is sometimes it messes up and over charges due to cell count being off or something. Do a bit of searching and you will see the problems reported with this setup. I believe later Astroflight came out with a software update or something.

Bob

[cmoney79]

I am just giving you what the i know and what the fire cheif told me I am no expert how can I change the title to something you people agree with? "Lipo Causes garage explosion" I said in my post I think it was the can of spray paint that cause the explosion but the fire chief told me that he has never seen a aerosol can explode with that much force. So I was going on what he said. To those that are saying look there is no charger or lipos on the bench see additional photos I posted. I took any think that was burning and threw it into the street and the additional spray paint can on the work bench I had placed there to compare it to the exploded one. The spray paint can in question was sitting on top of my plastic parts organizer thats why the left of the bench is not black I am attaching a photo of a whole blown though my work bench and into the wall in made a about 2 inch dent in the dry wall. the hole looks to be the size of the spray paint can to me

[JesusFreak]

Originally Posted by Finless

Exactly! I personally now 3 people now that have had flame on using that charger. What I have heard is sometimes it messes up and over charges due to cell count being off or something. Do a bit of searching and you will see the problems reported with this setup. I believe later Astroflight came out with a software update or something.

Bob

I'm glad the OP has just property damage. I'm dubious that the bulk of the energy came from the Lipo to do that damage. Agree with EvilSin that it merely was the catalyst to other combustible elements in the garage.

I've been using Ammo cans for my charging, but after seeing this and the other fellows house fire a few months back, I'm going to be adding some cinder blocks to build a containment area.

[Winfred]

Originally Posted by SAR1

I don't doubt that the lipo could have been the ignition source, but I don't think there is any way that the lipo alone caused all the damage. There had to be some other source of fumes or other substance to create enough explosive force to do this sort of damage.

Did you see all the semi burnt plastic and stuff. That would make a lot of smoke.
Smoke can be very flammable.
"Smoke from oxygen-deprived fires contains a significant concentration of compounds that are flammable. A cloud of smoke, in contact with atmospheric oxygen, therefore has the potential of being ignited – either by another open flame in the area, or by its own temperature. This leads to effects like backdraft and flashover." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke

Flashover= Fire with explosive like qualitys, that have the power to break doors and garage doors.




Edit: And I was to slow posting. I now read the OPs latest post. Aerosol can, huh...

[cmoney79]

Originally Posted by Finless

Exactly! I personally now 3 people now that have had flame on using that charger. What I have heard is sometimes it messes up and over charges due to cell count being off or something. Do a bit of searching and you will see the problems reported with this setup. I believe later Astroflight came out with a software update or something.

Bob

I did purchace and install the updated chip from astro flight I believe it was version 2 but that was years ago dont know if they came out with additional updates since then. So if you could please advice me of a safer set up it would be great

[Phreak Out]

Originally Posted by SAR1

And if you think this is an "innocent until proven guilty" country, try explaining that to the IRS. If they say you're guilty of owing them money, you're treated as guilty with asset seizure and jail until you "prove" you're innocent.

Unfortunately, I must agree - I wasn't thinking about the IRS and my personal experiences with them when I posted that comment.

Originally Posted by SAR1

P.S. I'm glad no one was hurt regardless of what caused this.

In agreement as well.

[jaydekay]

Originally Posted by cmoney79

...how can I change the title to something you people agree with? "Lipo Causes garage explosion"

Haha, its ok dude. Whatever works.

"Lipo fire causes garage explosion" is probably more accurate is all I was saying. That also might help future visitors have a better understanding of what happened right off the bat. And if you really want to be informative, you might consider putting some details in the very first post explaining what happened so people aren't lead to believe you're implying a lipo caused all the damage but rather that it was a chain reaction. That would have eliminated 99% of the comments back and forth about if its true.

If you want to change it, go to Edit > Go Advanced - from there you can edit the title.

Take care