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Viet-Lama · 12-31-2009, 06:28 PM

Its "Dirt-Grinder's" brother

pwb1 · 01-01-2010, 09:30 AM

I just read all five pages of this thread. Please in simple terms what product and what parts should I lubicate on my V2.

oliverdots · 01-01-2010, 09:40 AM

Great question. I would like to know the same. Help us Luke pls

I guess, all moving parts except servo's of course. Is there 1 lub that does all. Just a synthetic greace?

Luke Warmwater · 01-01-2010, 10:42 AM

Certainly, if it moves, lubricant will help it! (Servos nearly always come pre-lubricated, so don't lubricate them. I guess the servo manufacturers think it is a good idea....as far as I am aware, they have been doing it for over 40 years...

)

The main areas that will benefit are the areas that take the most loading; main gear, shaft bearings (main and tail). I like to try and work some into the swash as well. These are the parts that move continuously and can cause the highest loading for the motor. On a belt driven tail, I would also use a silicone on that, to keep the belt supple. There is an argument that it can help reduce static build up as well, which can cause glitching..

As for which lubricant....yep, pretty much any semi or fully synthetic will do it in terms of plastic and metal compatibility. There is not normally any silicone rubber on a heli (you don't want to put silicone lube on silicone rubber; it will swell up), so silicone is normally OK. I use Molykote PG65; one tub will last you a lifetime!

pwb1 · 01-01-2010, 10:51 AM

I run a fully synthetic oil in my dirt bike a ester 4 would that been fine also I have a synthetic chain oil. Thanks

Luke Warmwater · 01-01-2010, 11:06 AM

The chain oil will have "more cling, less fling"!

oliverdots · 01-01-2010, 11:37 AM

Where did you get the Molykote PG65 from pls Luke

Luke Warmwater · 01-01-2010, 04:24 PM

Try here:
http://www.rwgreeff.co.uk/molykote-p...eige-1kg-PG651

That 1kg pot will last a lifetime, literally!

oliverdots · 01-01-2010, 04:31 PM

Thanks for that Luke

USNA_91 · 01-05-2010, 01:40 PM

Wow, there is a LOT of information in this thread. At the risk of being a complete newbie, maybe the next time someone lubricates their HB they could take a few pictures and put them in here with a few words like lubricate here, don't lubricate here, etc. Pictures are worth a thousand words especially for clueless folks like me.

Luke, great job. I learned more about grease in 10 minutes than I ever thought possible!

PassinThru · 05-14-2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Warmwater

Certainly, if it moves, lubricant will help it! (Servos nearly always come pre-lubricated, so don't lubricate them. I guess the servo manufacturers think it is a good idea....as far as I am aware, they have been doing it for over 40 years...

)

The main areas that will benefit are the areas that take the most loading; main gear, shaft bearings (main and tail). I like to try and work some into the swash as well. These are the parts that move continuously and can cause the highest loading for the motor. On a belt driven tail, I would also use a silicone on that, to keep the belt supple. There is an argument that it can help reduce static build up as well, which can cause glitching..

As for which lubricant....yep, pretty much any semi or fully synthetic will do it in terms of plastic and metal compatibility. There is not normally any silicone rubber on a heli (you don't want to put silicone lube on silicone rubber; it will swell up), so silicone is normally OK. I use Molykote PG65; one tub will last you a lifetime!

Luke, just to let you know that your information is still being appreciated. Thank you.

Heli.Maniac · 05-16-2011, 04:04 PM

I think that thread should be a sticky in all Helicopter support forums on Helifreak. Many of us (including me

) are using WD40 causing plastic parts to fail....

Luke Warmwater · 05-18-2011, 03:50 AM

Nice to know it's of some help!

Inverse · 05-18-2011, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anmatheextreme

I think that thread should be a sticky in all Helicopter support forums on Helifreak.

Yep, great thread.

Bugster · 05-18-2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anmatheextreme

I think that thread should be a sticky in all Helicopter support forums on Helifreak. Many of us (including me

) are using WD40 causing plastic parts to fail....

Just checked and Luke's thread is stickied in the super sticky here.

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=162565

Nearly had a senior moment and stickied it again

And hey Luke - great to see you here - must be almost 3 years now you've been helping us HBFP pilots

Luke Warmwater · 05-18-2011, 02:11 PM

I'm just hanging on for my pension!

Bugster · 05-18-2011, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Warmwater

I'm just hanging on for my pension!

Mine should appear in around 2 weeks - retiring early because I had a decent offer for my business.

Just can't wait to have spare cash and time available for helis again. Want to fly 3D with HBFPs.

Better warn the UK suppliers to build up stocks of spares.

cheve · 07-12-2011, 12:53 PM

Would something like the following be ok to use?

http://www.amazon.com/Jig-Loo-JIGUSA.../dp/B002AR379W

thanks,

JettaManDan · 07-12-2011, 01:08 PM

I personally wouldn't use graphite as a lube..but a straight liquid....i think if the graphite got into any bearings it may be an issue..hoping someone can confirm?

spektrex · 07-19-2011, 03:04 AM

@Luke Warmwater: thank you very much, this is really appreciated and your posting has been of great help!

12-31-2009, 06:28 PM	#41 (permalink)
Viet-Lama Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2009	Its "Dirt-Grinder's" brother __________________ Every time I crash I wonder, why didnt I get into RC tanks.

01-01-2010, 09:40 AM	#43 (permalink)
oliverdots Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2009	Great question. I would like to know the same. Help us Luke pls I guess, all moving parts except servo's of course. Is there 1 lub that does all. Just a synthetic greace? __________________ Cheers, OD. If you make a mistake and learn from it, that's progress 2 x Nano heli's - now passed on to Megan, HoneyBee V1.....Awaiting test flight, T-Rex 250 V1, Hitec 5084MG tail servo, DX6i, Walkera 4#3A (it's in fairly good hands Bugster).

01-01-2010, 10:42 AM	#44 (permalink)
Luke Warmwater Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2009	Certainly, if it moves, lubricant will help it! (Servos nearly always come pre-lubricated, so don't lubricate them. I guess the servo manufacturers think it is a good idea....as far as I am aware, they have been doing it for over 40 years...) The main areas that will benefit are the areas that take the most loading; main gear, shaft bearings (main and tail). I like to try and work some into the swash as well. These are the parts that move continuously and can cause the highest loading for the motor. On a belt driven tail, I would also use a silicone on that, to keep the belt supple. There is an argument that it can help reduce static build up as well, which can cause glitching.. As for which lubricant....yep, pretty much any semi or fully synthetic will do it in terms of plastic and metal compatibility. There is not normally any silicone rubber on a heli (you don't want to put silicone lube on silicone rubber; it will swell up), so silicone is normally OK. I use Molykote PG65; one tub will last you a lifetime! __________________ 450 Bell 222, 450 Jet Ranger, HBFP Redbee Extreme, 500 size Blackhawk MH-60, 600 EP Spitfire, Sebart 342 30e, Davy Systems Flybaby, ST Models FW190, Micro SU26 & GWS P38. DX7s

01-01-2010, 11:06 AM	#46 (permalink)
Luke Warmwater Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2009	The chain oil will have "more cling, less fling"! __________________ 450 Bell 222, 450 Jet Ranger, HBFP Redbee Extreme, 500 size Blackhawk MH-60, 600 EP Spitfire, Sebart 342 30e, Davy Systems Flybaby, ST Models FW190, Micro SU26 & GWS P38. DX7s

01-01-2010, 11:37 AM	#47 (permalink)
oliverdots Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2009	Where did you get the Molykote PG65 from pls Luke __________________ Cheers, OD. If you make a mistake and learn from it, that's progress 2 x Nano heli's - now passed on to Megan, HoneyBee V1.....Awaiting test flight, T-Rex 250 V1, Hitec 5084MG tail servo, DX6i, Walkera 4#3A (it's in fairly good hands Bugster).

01-01-2010, 09:30 AM	#42 (permalink)
pwb1 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	I just read all five pages of this thread. Please in simple terms what product and what parts should I lubicate on my V2.

01-01-2010, 10:51 AM	#45 (permalink)
pwb1 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	I run a fully synthetic oil in my dirt bike a ester 4 would that been fine also I have a synthetic chain oil. Thanks

01-01-2010, 04:24 PM	#48 (permalink)
Luke Warmwater Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2009	Try here: http://www.rwgreeff.co.uk/molykote-p...eige-1kg-PG651 That 1kg pot will last a lifetime, literally! __________________ 450 Bell 222, 450 Jet Ranger, HBFP Redbee Extreme, 500 size Blackhawk MH-60, 600 EP Spitfire, Sebart 342 30e, Davy Systems Flybaby, ST Models FW190, Micro SU26 & GWS P38. DX7s

01-01-2010, 04:31 PM	#49 (permalink)
oliverdots Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2009	Thanks for that Luke __________________ Cheers, OD. If you make a mistake and learn from it, that's progress 2 x Nano heli's - now passed on to Megan, HoneyBee V1.....Awaiting test flight, T-Rex 250 V1, Hitec 5084MG tail servo, DX6i, Walkera 4#3A (it's in fairly good hands Bugster).

01-05-2010, 01:40 PM	#50 (permalink)
USNA_91 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2009	Wow, there is a LOT of information in this thread. At the risk of being a complete newbie, maybe the next time someone lubricates their HB they could take a few pictures and put them in here with a few words like lubricate here, don't lubricate here, etc. Pictures are worth a thousand words especially for clueless folks like me. Luke, great job. I learned more about grease in 10 minutes than I ever thought possible!

05-16-2011, 04:04 PM	#52 (permalink)
Heli.Maniac Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2011	I think that thread should be a sticky in all Helicopter support forums on Helifreak. Many of us (including me) are using WD40 causing plastic parts to fail....

05-18-2011, 03:50 AM	#53 (permalink)
Luke Warmwater Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2009	Nice to know it's of some help! __________________ 450 Bell 222, 450 Jet Ranger, HBFP Redbee Extreme, 500 size Blackhawk MH-60, 600 EP Spitfire, Sebart 342 30e, Davy Systems Flybaby, ST Models FW190, Micro SU26 & GWS P38. DX7s

05-18-2011, 02:11 PM	#56 (permalink)
Luke Warmwater Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2009	I'm just hanging on for my pension! __________________ 450 Bell 222, 450 Jet Ranger, HBFP Redbee Extreme, 500 size Blackhawk MH-60, 600 EP Spitfire, Sebart 342 30e, Davy Systems Flybaby, ST Models FW190, Micro SU26 & GWS P38. DX7s

07-12-2011, 12:53 PM	#58 (permalink)
cheve Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2011	Would something like the following be ok to use? http://www.amazon.com/Jig-Loo-JIGUSA.../dp/B002AR379W thanks,

07-12-2011, 01:08 PM	#59 (permalink)
JettaManDan Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2010	I personally wouldn't use graphite as a lube..but a straight liquid....i think if the graphite got into any bearings it may be an issue..hoping someone can confirm? __________________ HBV2, HBCP3, HBKING 2 FP, 4 Trex 450 Clones, Trex 500 GF, 500 Trex Clone, MCPX, MCX2 - 32 "Planks" and 5 Cars - 29 years of R/C and counting, and it's just getting WORSE! check me out on youtube! www.youtube.com/jettamandan09

07-19-2011, 03:04 AM	#60 (permalink)
spektrex Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2011	@Luke Warmwater: thank you very much, this is really appreciated and your posting has been of great help!

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