Lipo battery fire turned into Garage Explosion

[ephit]

Originally Posted by FUNBOSS

Sorry guys, I call BS! There are way too many inconsistencies with this scene. Look at the pictures again.

+1. One up for bs

[jaydekay]

[rctazz]

Originally Posted by Droidx

A sealed container is always a bomb.

I would not think the Lipo cell walls would be sufficiently strong to develop the kind of pressure required to cause that devastation. I have seen the aftermath of a Soda bottle Hydrogen experiment that went wrong in a garage and no damage was done to the physical structure but everything inside the garage was disturbed. A stack of newspapers was shredded and sent all over the garage.

The only thing I can think of is that there was flammable fumes already in the air that the Lipo ignited to cause a flashover event. Think about the pressure wave required to blow the doors out like that....

or its BS

[Winfred]

I would guess that is was some kind of flashover. It looks like the burnt stuff at the bech would produce a lots of smoke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashover
Lots of flammable smoke and sparks/glowing leads from a shorted lipo would do the job.

[EviLSiN]

OBVIOUSLY NO ONE READ MY POST SO I'M SCREAMING NOW LOL...

This is completley beleiveable.
It's in a garage where tons of flamable contaminents ari in the air. With closed windows and doors they have nowhere to disperse. It is very possible for an ingnition source, such as a burning lipo, to set off an explosion in a confined area, such as a garage.
You hear about it all the time.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by rctazz

I would not think the Lipo cell walls would be sufficiently strong to develop the kind of pressure required to cause that devastation.

or its BS

That's right.
But a lipo in a SEALED CONTAINER like a steel ammo can or some other container will.

I even said myself that a lipos walls won't contain that kind of pressure.

[jaydekay]

Prove it by taking a photo of yourself in the garage doing this sweet dance move and I'll believe it.

[lowflyer101]

Spend 30 mins zoom in and out, cant see any rc equiments, This is BS, i have first hand experience with lipo went boom, Only 3 s 2000 mah, the whole room cover with white powder which believer release from the pack when it caught fire and went boom

[Phreak Out]

Sorry, but I don't understand why "BS" is called so damn fast.

How come there are suddenly so many experts who know ALL the details and they've carefully investigated all the preexisting conditions that qualify their judgment of "BS?"

Sure, to me, the untrained expert, it does look a little fishy but I don't have all the details. That door really looks blown off.

I can't imagine how this occurred beyond what the OP has said - who knows what other details are missing from this post so far - shouldn't the calls for "BS" be held off until more facts arise?

I don't fully understand why it happened either but I'm willing to get more info before making such a harsh judgment.

C'mon guys - give the OP a break. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"

[EviLSiN]

Originally Posted by Phreak Out

Sorry, but I don't understand why "BS" is called so damn fast.

How come there are suddenly so many experts who know ALL the details and they've carefully investigated all the preexisting conditions that qualify their judgment of "BS?"

Sure, to me, the untrained expert, it does look a little fishy but I don't have all the details. That door really looks blown off.

I can't imagine how this occurred beyond what the OP has said - who knows what other details are missing from this post so far - shouldn't the calls for "BS" be held off until more facts arise?

I don't fully understand why it happened either but I'm willing to get more info before making such a harsh judgment.

C'mon guys - give the OP a break. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"

cuz people are so closed minded and obviously know everything!!! duh

[rctazz]

Originally Posted by Droidx

That's right.
But a lipo in a SEALED CONTAINER like a steel ammo can or some other container will.

I even said myself that a lipos walls won't contain that kind of pressure.

I agree about the sealed container. Curious if the offending battery was in one.

[Larry227]

Originally Posted by Droidx

That's right.
But a lipo in a SEALED CONTAINER like a steel ammo can or some other container will.

I even said myself that a lipos walls won't contain that kind of pressure.

By sealed do you mean airtight? If so then how do you get the charging leads into an airtight container and keep it airtight?
If you just mean a closed container than it wouldn't be much different than this video would it?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5ftkN9PtY[/ame]

[Phreak Out]

Playing "devil's advocate" I can think of a handful of ways this could have happened, that still fit within the OP's testimony.

I've been on a jury - before the judge sends the jury to the courtroom, the jury is told to weigh only the evidence provided. If there is any reasonable doubt - even a little - the person on trial is deemed "not guilty"

To be honest, so far, I have reasonable doubt, so, at this point, I am not 100% convinced we're being lied to. I'm sure there's more information, some relevant details that haven't surfaced yet. Who's been provided ALL the facts to this point?

Not me, so I can't honestly vote "guilty" - so far, the evidence isn't compelling.

[SYMAWD]

First attachment= evidence for. Right behind the blown door appears to be an RC car.
Second attachment= evidence against. Nothing resembling a charger or power supply.

[Phreak Out]

Originally Posted by Larry227

If so then how do you get the charging leads into an airtight container and keep it airtight?

I could make one - not nearly as complicated as figuring out how to setup my flybarred head.

• Ammo box
• Drill holes
• Fit wiring adapters (hollow threaded tubes, washers, nuts)
• Run wiring w/connectors
• Seal with epoxy (or several other materials/methods)

Of course, with what I know about lipo's, I think this would be incredibly stupid to use a sealed container like this for storage &/or charging, however, I've seen videos where people mistakingly store &/or charge their lipo's in a sealed container either using an ammo box or a similarly sealed metal container.

Yes, I'll admit, I want this to see a legitimate outcome in this story. Is that wrong?

[Phreak Out]

Originally Posted by SYMAWD

Second attachment= evidence against. Nothing resembling a charger or power supply.

A valid point.

Could it be, when the OP ran into the garage the charger was in flames and he knocked it to the concrete floor to put it out?

I don't know - who does know all the facts yet?

[cmoney79]

Not on bench because It was plastic and on Fire and I threw it in the street to keep it from burning the house down

[jaydekay]

IMO the OP was looking for some Sunday entertainment.

[EviLSiN]

THE GARAGE ITSELF IS AIRTIGHT ENOUGH TO CAUSE AN EXPLOSION!!!!
ALL YOU NEED IS IGNITION SOURCE.....LIPO
FUEL......AIR CONTAMINATED WITH COMBUSTIBLE GASSES ( GASOLINE, TURPANTINE, HOUSEHOLD CLEANING SUPPLIES ETC)

THE FORCE OF IGNITING THE GASES IN THE AIR IS ENOUGH TO DO THIS KIND OF DAMAGE. THE DOORS WERE THE WEEK POINTS THAT GAVE WAY. iF THERE WERE NO DOORS THE FORCE OF THE EXPLOSION COULD HAVE BLOWN THE WHOLE GARAGE APART.

iTS BASIC SCIENCE GUYS.

IM NOT SAYING THATS WHAT HAPPENED BUT ITS GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL STUFF HERE AND ITS COMPLETLEY BELIEVEABLE.

[garyji]

It seems that if you are going to post a "lipo-blew-up-my-garage" thread, you would provide ALL the relevant details right away. Especially here on HF. I still say Hmmmmm!!

G.