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Old 06-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #81 (permalink)
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According to the Align website, If I buy the combo with the HV servos I need a Lipo 2s 1900-2300 . and then:

What 2s lipo 1900 - 2300 would you recommend?
As would be the connection?

I do not want to be plugging and unplugging the battery from the FBL unit
Anyone have photos or a diagram of how to use.

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Old 06-25-2012, 09:24 PM   #82 (permalink)
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According to the Align website, If I buy the combo with the HV servos I need a Lipo 2s 1900-2300 . and then:

What 2s lipo 1900 - 2300 would you recommend?
As would be the connection?

I do not want to be plugging and unplugging the battery from the FBL unit
Anyone have photos or a diagram of how to use.

Thanks in advance
With an electric you can have two ways in order to power your electronics. #1. Install a BEC in parallel to your ESC (Speed Controller) and have your 12S LiPo pack power your motor and electronics. #2. Have a separate 2S LiPo battery to power your RX, Servos and FBL system.
Personally, I like the separate 2S pack, cause you can charge it once and fly your electronics most of the day. A 2S 2600mAh or 3600mAh and even 5000mAh battery will serve you well. Pulse batteries, NRG Outrage or Proggressive RC's Spyder batteries are all great choices.

Hope this helps you.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:59 PM   #83 (permalink)
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With an electric you can have two ways in order to power your electronics. #1. Install a BEC in parallel to your ESC (Speed Controller) and have your 12S LiPo pack power your motor and electronics. #2. Have a separate 2S LiPo battery to power your RX, Servos and FBL system.
Personally, I like the separate 2S pack, cause you can charge it once and fly your electronics most of the day. A 2S 2600mAh or 3600mAh and even 5000mAh battery will serve you well. Pulse batteries, NRG Outrage or Proggressive RC's Spyder batteries are all great choices.

Hope this helps you.
Ok, I choose the #2 way , how i connect the battery in the rx ? I do not want to be plugging and unplugging the battery from the rx.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:36 PM   #84 (permalink)
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FYI, I'm running the Align HV servos, and at 8.4V I can get my vBar to brown out. At 6V it's stable. So at this time I would only recommend a 2s LiPo and not a BEC in the 700e DFC if you want to run HV to the servos.

I was using a WR Hercules Super BEC (the $100 14s one).
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:16 PM   #85 (permalink)
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how i connect the 2s lipo battery in the rx ? I do not want to be plugging and unplugging the battery from the rx.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #86 (permalink)
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how i connect the 2s lipo battery in the rx ? I do not want to be plugging and unplugging the battery from the rx.
You can install a switch. Something like this if you use Spectrum/JR.
http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/D...ProdID=SPM9532
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Old 06-26-2012, 06:53 PM   #87 (permalink)
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FYI, I'm running the Align HV servos, and at 8.4V I can get my vBar to brown out. At 6V it's stable. So at this time I would only recommend a 2s LiPo and not a BEC in the 700e DFC if you want to run HV to the servos.

I was using a WR Hercules Super BEC (the $100 14s one).
Very interesting. I was under the impression that lower voltage meant a higher current flow for any given load. I wonder if there is something wrong with your Super BEC on the 8.4v circuit?
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:18 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Why is it called DFC HV?
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Very interesting. I was under the impression that lower voltage meant a higher current flow for any given load. I wonder if there is something wrong with your Super BEC on the 8.4v circuit?
This is a common misconception for servos. The higher the voltage to a servo motor, the faster it moves, the more torque it generates and therefore the more current it consumes. If the output power remained a constant, then this would be true. But instead it increases dramatically with voltage.
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Why is it called DFC HV?
It comes with the considerably more expensive HV servos.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:32 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Default First video I found, any other?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUF_vcrWt3Q[/ame]

Looks sweet, the flight is not so good though.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:35 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Looks sweet, the flight is not so good though.
Whaaa!!? That flight was amazing. The video wasn't so good but Colin Bell gave that 700 a spanking.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:04 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Whaaa!!? That flight was amazing. The video wasn't so good but Colin Bell gave that 700 a spanking.
I know that this is not the subject, but I was always wondering why do people like flights without no meaning, no precision, jerky movement without any sense and elegance. Just my opinion and explanation, thanks and sorry.

yes, yes I don't like Tareq either .
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What about resolution guys. I am very conserned being not optimal for a CGY750, V-Bar or other units than the 3GX. Any information about that?

If someone can convince me about that I will buy one. Otherwise I will probably go for a GAUI X7 this time.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:24 AM   #95 (permalink)
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The resolution is OK because the new swashplate comes with two ball-link positions.
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What about resolution guys. I am very conserned being not optimal for a CGY750, V-Bar or other units than the 3GX. Any information about that?

If someone can convince me about that I will buy one. Otherwise I will probably go for a GAUI X7 this time.
I'm guessing it's better, since this design no longer uses the long bell cranks.
And like previously mentioned: use the inner hole on the swash.
Other option would be the extended grip arms from KDE:
http://www.kdedirect.com/TREX700MRHAXT.html

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Old 06-28-2012, 09:47 AM   #97 (permalink)
 

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Hobby Hut secured a small amount of 700V3 kits get them now.

http://www.hobbyhut.com/T_REX_700E_D...p/kx018e15.htm
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Arghhhhh. I want this to be my 1st 700 bird so badly. No funds though.

How much is one kidney in the black market nowadays .
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:17 AM   #99 (permalink)
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The resolution is OK because the new swashplate comes with two ball-link positions.
I hope it does add enough. Unfortunally it does not add pitch resolution which is equally important.

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I'm guessing it's better, since this design no longer uses the long bell cranks.
And like previously mentioned: use the inner hole on the swash.
Other option would be the extended grip arms from KDE:
http://www.kdedirect.com/TREX700MRHAXT.html

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As far as I know this is only supported in combination with the KDE DFC arms. KDE only has a bolt on version for the normal 700 head, not the DFC arms from Align.
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I can't agree with you more!

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I know that this is not the subject, but I was always wondering why do people like flights without no meaning, no precision, jerky movement without any sense and elegance. Just my opinion and explanation, thanks and sorry.

yes, yes I don't like Tareq either .
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