Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect
START  HERE

DJI Gaui Hyperion Batteries Empire Hobby

Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopters > RC Helicopter Flight School


RC Helicopter Flight School Instructional Flying Tips, Tricks, Videos, and Q&A


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-04-2012, 06:52 PM   #1
peprc2000
Registered Users
 
Posts: 28
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: pittsburgh pa
Question phoenix or real flight ????

OOPS ...!!!!!!

i have seem to misplace my phoenix sim and cord ..there's a good chance it went when i got rid of my old cpu...

so...... i have a dx5 and a dx8 so i really don't need another radio ...

and the cost is about the same ... i would like to here from members that have used both ,and what they think ...

thanks ..
peprc2000 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 02:58 PM   #2
rojack
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,481
 

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Santee, California
Default

I don't think you can use your own radio on Real Flight....

Plenty of discussion on this topic in the forums if you search around. Short answer: they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but overall each gets the job done fairly well. No overall clear winner for all categories. Also, there is AeroFly.

Think about what you liked and didn't like when you used Phoenix. Folks can answer if those things are better or not in Real Flight. Then you'll know if it's worth switching for you.
__________________

rojack is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 03:30 PM   #3
JoeW
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,860
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Oakville, ON - CDN
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rojack View Post
I don't think you can use your own radio on Real Flight....
There is a way, you need a SimStick and the Real Flight controller that come in the package, you plug in the RF controller and leave it on the floor...

You can use your own Tx with RF, but you can't avoid buying the RF package with the bundled controller.

http://www.simstick.co.uk/realflight...lator_inst.php
__________________
TRex 250 DFC | TRex 250 DFC (Scale)
2 @ TRex 450 DFC | TRex 450 Pro 3G (Scale)
TRex 550 DFC
DX8 + Telemetery on all
JoeW is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2012, 11:30 AM   #4
kayakboy69
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: sacramento ca
Default

Call Real Flight customer service you can probly get a downloadable program and a cord to you your TX
kayakboy69 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2012, 08:55 AM   #5
oz_adari
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: israel
Default

I'm a total noob but this is my thought's about it,
before i got my heli i was training in Phoniex, but after i got it phoniex felt so easy.. not as my real heli , but RF? felt great! exactly the same !
give them both try, phoniex is way better in graphics and features, but i still think RF win.
oz_adari is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 04:19 AM   #6
Sambuka
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Default

Phoenix way better than real flight IMO. Real flight is extremely hard to use your own transmitter, no setup wizard really sucks they try to force people to use their transmitters for copyright reasons.

I have both I didn't like RF it had a crap selection of models no updates for free and seemed like it was full of planes and hardly any heli's. And heli's that were there well didn't recognize almost any.
Sambuka is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 09:22 AM   #7
thunder6
Registered Users
 
Posts: 108
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: toledo,ohio
Default phoenix

IMHO, phoenix, You can really tweek it to fly almost like you heli. I practiced for months and said the same thing ( wow this is easy ). That being said i got a hold of captJac and his flight school, He walked me thru the sim and we tweeked it out.Once that was done completely diffrent heli ( wow not so easy )
__________________
___________
blade450, gaui x5 (soon)
dx6i, phoenix sim
thunder6 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 11:28 AM   #8
jcmors
Registered Users
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Otsego, Mn USA
Default Phoenix

For me the big determining factor was the free upgrades to major releases without having to buy the next version over and over again. The ease with which I cold use my own Tx was a factor as well. It seems as though, physics wise, they are very close and has been already said, there are many parameters that can be adjusted in Phoenix to make any model fly close to your own in real life.

Just my opinion...

Jim
jcmors is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2012, 03:19 PM   #9
Sambuka
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Default

They are very close in feel I have both, Phoenix wins for better models many trex's I fly are there. Free updates, works great with my own transmitter (big plus for me), easy setup.
Sambuka is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2012, 11:29 AM   #10
gitbse
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,044
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Palmer, MA
Default

Easy question, easy answer.
Phoenix for cost, and horizon planes.
Realflight for everything else.
Phoenix V4 made a big improvement in the physics quality, v3 was crap IMO. V4 is much better, however they still missed the ball with inertia modeling. The models fly like they are weightless. Realflight nailed the physics dead on, I can go from the Rave ENV in RF6 straight to my Rave ENV, without skipping a beat.

So Phoenix for affordability, Realflight for quality.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Skookum Support Rep
Mini Protos SK540,Rave ENV SK540, 4525 LE
Runways are for models and wings are for fairies.
gitbse is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 06:00 PM   #11
AcidDrink
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: UK
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gitbse View Post
V4 is much better, however they still missed the ball with inertia modeling. The models fly like they are weightless. Realflight nailed the physics dead on, I can go from the Rave ENV in RF6 straight to my Rave ENV, without skipping a beat.

So Phoenix for affordability, Realflight for quality.
Exactly my thoughts.
__________________
TDR/VBar
Logo 600SX 12s VBar
MSH MINI PROTOS/CGY750
AcidDrink is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 06:05 PM   #12
My98stang46
Registered Users
 
Posts: 639
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Mobile, AL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oz_adari View Post
I'm a total noob but this is my thought's about it,
before i got my heli i was training in Phoniex, but after i got it phoniex felt so easy.. not as my real heli , but RF? felt great! exactly the same !
give them both try, phoniex is way better in graphics and features, but i still think RF win.
Exactly the opposite of my experience. Phoenix is better ,IMHO, than RF. I didn't think there was a difference until I flew on Phoenix and wow! It's spot on! V4 is what I tried so I can't comment on other versions


Prôtos 500CF FBL Vbar
Blade 450FBL Tarot ZYX
__________________
2003 SVT Cobra 538RWHP
2010 Corvette ZR1 all stock
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Blade 450FBL, PRÔTOS 500CF FBL
My98stang46 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 06:14 PM   #13
Anthony440
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,469
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Colorado
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by My98stang46 View Post
Exactly the opposite of my experience. Phoenix is better ,IMHO, than RF. I didn't think there was a difference until I flew on Phoenix and wow! It's spot on! V4 is what I tried so I can't comment on other versions


Prôtos 500CF FBL Vbar
Blade 450FBL Tarot ZYX
Which version of RF? I own and rf6 and Phoenix (latest version). No comparison, Realflight by miles.
__________________
Henseleit TDR YGE 120 Kontronic 700-52 Skookum 540 JR 8917hv Futaba Bls-256hv
Compass 6hv HW 70hv Stock Motor Skookum 540 Ds-610 Ds-650
Align Trex 700ev2 CC120 750mx Beast X MKS Bls950, Bls980
Anthony440 is offline        Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 08:30 PM   #14
My98stang46
Registered Users
 
Posts: 639
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Mobile, AL
Default

Rf6 is what I flew. To me rf felt numb I the physics didn't seem right. The helis in Phoenix just fly ad respond like the real thing to me. Nothing against rf, it's just a preference


Prôtos 500CF FBL Vbar
Blade 450FBL Tarot ZYX
__________________
2003 SVT Cobra 538RWHP
2010 Corvette ZR1 all stock
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Blade 450FBL, PRÔTOS 500CF FBL
My98stang46 is offline        Reply With Quote
Reply




Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopters > RC Helicopter Flight School


RC Helicopter Flight School Instructional Flying Tips, Tricks, Videos, and Q&A

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Copyright © 2004-2011 - William James - Helifreak.com