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08-22-2015, 04:47 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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What can I do with Colossus Heli
Don't know if this is where I should post this because it has to do with another heli. Have not been here long. Anyway, that big o colossus I got now has a burned out circuit board . It has good motors, led's, rotors, all metal frame everything except a burned out board.. I want to fix it up with a better receiver and transmitter. Not sure how to begin though. I want the 4 ft colossus but with new circuit board and transmitter. Any answers will be great. Thanks
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08-22-2015, 05:07 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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I'm not sure but after googling that heli and looking around the site I'm tempted to get Batman. http://www.hobbytron.com/DCComicsLic...terREFURB.html
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08-22-2015, 05:48 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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That looks cool, very fun I bet
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08-22-2015, 06:01 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Hmmm.... This is a gigantic helicopter that we usually refer to as a "mall-copter"....
It is a fixed pitch, coaxial heli with larger brushed motors. (It's the type of heli that most folks here would rip on pretty excessively. It's not really meant to be supported or last very long.) Honest answer - to upgrade the radio and receiver you will need something else that operates the same way. (So a hobby grade 3.5 channel heli.) That nearly doesn't exist... I say nearly, because there is a Blade Scout that is essentially the exact same heli (mechanically speaking).., so to convert it you would need a Scout "all in one" board and a way to increase voltage to the motors that could handle the strain. (The scout fits in the palm of your hand). Then you could bind it to a radio that costs more than $59 more than your whole heli brand new. My recommendation - don't do it. Look at a real collective pitch single rotor heli, or 6 axis enabled fixed pitch one. They will fly way better outside than yours and actually grow as your skill does. Best option IMHO - Wltoys V977 off of eBay. Should be like $100, but will zip around close to 30mph, yet still can level itself if you let go of the stick. It's small, but parts are available for it, and it can fly out 3000 feet fairly easily. (No you can't see it at that range, but it reaches.) Closest hobby grade heli to yours is the Blade MCX3 but it's hard to find and discontinued. Other option is a Blade 200srx or 230srx which have self level and are larger helis. Get them RTF for about $250 for 200srx, or $300 230srx.. They have "real radios" at least with real relevant range. Welcome to the hobby! If you like your colossus, you will absolutely adore any of those... Good Luck! |
08-22-2015, 06:18 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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Thanks for the good reply. I looked at that Wltoys V977. It looks same size as my Blade 120 sr. (I am just now getting it without crashing her up too much) I love that 120 though, she has some ump in her. I been loving it, fixing them, learning how to fly them, learning how they work.
Thanks for the reply though. I knw that huge heli is just a dump, but it was cool in the air for awile, BIG!!!! I think I will go that way though and just put her up as a display. |
08-22-2015, 06:49 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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The 120sr is fidgety. Don't blame yourself for that.
The v977 is smaller than the 120sr by a hair, but it will do 30 mph if you give it collective. It will teach you a ton more and fly many times better in wind outside. Tough little bugger too! I'd still say to nab that one. It's hobby grade by definition (real radio, parts available from 92 cent pinion, to each individual part... And it is full collective pitch with a surprisingly good 6axis FBL system on it...) If you love the crap out of it, which I know you will, you can build yourself anything from a 200 size up to beyond a 700 size and use something like Ikon for the FBL and you can craft that same self-level as you need it whether permanent, or just as an Oh S&@T button rescue. You just can't get that on a similarly capable CP heli for less than the V977. It's a beast off self level and in high rates... I should make a video Enjoy and good luck! |
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But yes. Do get a better heli if you want to see how deep this rabbit hole is.
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08-23-2015, 09:04 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Wait till you visit a Heli club and see how big real 'large' helis get.....
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08-24-2015, 09:13 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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Now that is a heli!!!! Awessome looking too. Can't lose site of that one a hundred feet away. Wow!!! Nice.
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08-24-2015, 07:26 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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UH OH crocodile Dundee just showed up
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It's a deeeeeep hole. And quite amazingly fun! |
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08-24-2015, 10:28 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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Gonna do it
Yep, I am gonna do it, Just ordered a v977!!! I think I can really have some fun now. Started out with a baby coaxial. Had to get bigger one the next day. That wasn't enough either, Bought a $60 coaxial .... Still need more.. Grabed a 120 sr!!! Really hard to learn, but i think I got it now after tuns of crashes and parts. Seen that 4 footer colossus!!! Got to have it!! Blew the 3 in 1 board after 3 batteries.. NOW I AM GOING COLLECTIVE PITCH!!!!
This is a fun hobby, should have started it younger though... People look at a 50 year old man funny out there playing with a heli Thanks guys, this is a cool place to be.. LIke the forums, and the hobby. |
08-24-2015, 10:33 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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No flaybar!!! What would happen??
If I took that flybar off the 120 sr, what would happen? Would it fly? Would it take alot of controlling? Or would it just not work?
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08-25-2015, 07:12 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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It wouldn't fly.
Your blades are attached to the flybar... The flybar stays level because of centrifugal force, so that makes the blades go the right direction when the wind etc blows the heli... With no flybar, you would have no stability number 1, and number 2, your blades would not be attached to anything.... You control the servos, they control swash, links go to flybar, and flybar links go to blades. On a flybarless heli, there is no flybar not because it was removed but it was never there... So swash controls blades. The electronic 3axis gyro replaces the flybars job at countering wind, gyroscopic forces, etc. |
08-25-2015, 07:20 AM | #17 (permalink) |
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With any fbl helicopter, like the v977, plug in battery then set it down to initialize. (They have a computer reading gyros rather than a mechanical flybar, so they need to "boot up" nice and still and basically level)
EDIT: Make sure you take off first time outside.... Its a quick little bird. If you're gonna crash, drop throttle to zero. Shouldn't break anything if it hits with throttle off... That said stuff may pop off, so check when you pick it up before walking away... (Or those parts will disappear like the Roswell crash) Remember release the right stick (cyclic) and she'll go back to mostly level instantly. Last edited by gunny_jeeves; 08-25-2015 at 08:43 AM.. |
08-25-2015, 06:25 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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Thanks. I just learned something about my helicopters.. I learn something everyday. Nice hobby I think. Yes I will start her off outside , got a nice big park just down the street, only thing in the way is the ground!!
How long you been doing Heli's? Sounds like you know how the work veery well. |
08-25-2015, 07:18 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I had a case of rapidly-induced trial and error.
I have been flying about 4 years, but fly with all three of my kids. Ones into helis, ones into planes and one in quads. Started with the V911 for about $35... Then progressed through micros, clones, Align, and others. Now main interest is Gaui / Goblin and Dreaming of a Avant Mostro. We go through quite a lot, and I had to learn to fly it all and fix it all too. If I had it to do again would have gone: V911 (Orientation) --> V977(Learn Mild Slow 3D) --> Blade 180cfx (First real full fledged heli. Variable Pitch Tail.)--> Gaui X3 --> X5 --> Goblin / Mostro and beyond. I'm happy but I wouldn't miss all that crap in between. (Probably couldn't appreciate the Gaui though without it. You really need to scratch build a heli that ALMOST all works before you can appreciate one you build that actually does.) |
08-25-2015, 07:32 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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I've had the Blade micros and:
MCPX Brushed - Its a brushed heli. (Meh..) V922 Brushed - Its a WLToys MCPX... No purpose with V977 MCPX BL - Its a high head speed MCPX with same tail problems. (Own a V977 and there is no purpose for the MCPX BL.) 130x - It was awesome... Still is! Real heli, VP tail... A+++ 180cfx - Just WAY WAY better than the 130x... A++++++++++ (No real need for both) Blade 200srx (Bigger and has self level... No need since I have V977) Blade 300cfx / 450x etc... Fly good, but no real purpose. Not impressed. Big but not big... Align or clone 450 (Several) - Most parts are ok, few need work or special care. Not just assemble and fly off... ********* DECISION TIME ********* For me I was like forget this crap if I can't fix em... So I had to learn how to fix them. (Expensive lesson) If I learned I'd go bigger, if I didn't, I'd stick with micros and be done with all but my 180CFX. I learned, then fixed the dead bodies of 450's laying around. (I have 5 right now.) ************************************** Got a GAUI by accident, but fell in love with it. Kinda rapidly got over everything on big helis... Since then I crashed my X5 on a maiden, needed new blades ($29 for 520mm) and new linkages ($6)... Flies again like a freaking BOSS! I love it! So basically I swore off any more Blades or Aligns or Clones. (I still love my HobbyKing electronics though...) HA! You'll love that V977... I can't wait to see what you say here, freaking EPIC! |
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