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smwht · 10-18-2016, 11:27 AM

Trex 700n broke two flying, nx7 broke one in a crash and one just flying. I assume vibrations from breaking in new nitro motors, plus weird positioning on the trex. Top of the receiver tray isn't great for the all in one units imo... Wiring is ugly. For whatever reason, my synergy nitros have been fine though.

Laughingstill · 10-18-2016, 11:59 AM

My Synergy N-7 with a 105 has been without issue. The NX-7, especially with the YS 120, is a jackhammer and not much survives. You can put thin clear heat shrink around the unit as well before installation to prevent excess movement (did that when I broke the tabs taking the unit apart to look at the internals....works perfectly).

MaxFlyer · 11-01-2016, 11:15 AM

I was flying my TRex 700L gently at the field when I thought I felt the heli twitch and slightly rise a bit in height. When I took the canopy off afterwards the upper lid of the blue receiver case was raised slightly and the tabs were broken. Mikado have answered my emails but cannot believe that I didn't try to reposition the unit or remove it causing the damage myself. There are even two minor cracks in the under body of the case. Has anybody else found case damage after a flight please.

richardv · 11-01-2016, 04:38 PM

I was going to get a VBasic for my shockie, but I don't see the case lasting more than a few landings.

MaxFlyer · 11-01-2016, 06:09 PM

The interesting thing is that I haven't had a single heavy landing with this heli. After reading comments from other flyers it seems the case cannot stand being ripped off the gyro pad and repositioned but I haven't done any of this. The receiver battery sits next to the VBar Neo and I have to focus my attention on the blue plastic receiver box to make sure the flashing light changes colour after I power it up. I would have seen any damage and not taken off if it had been there before my flight.

oliver1071 · 11-03-2016, 06:29 AM

That is odd Max I haven't experienced any problems with the case unless I was removing it and never any cracks in the main case only the tabs breaking off.
What surprised me with all of this was that I never put force on the side of the case I just slide a straight edge under the neo which I thought was safe. I guess it tweaks the tabs with any force on the case.
I can't see how they would break just flying though even through multiple crashes mine were fine only when I remove them from the gyro tape did the tabs break. But I guess anything is possible.

Vinger · 11-03-2016, 08:50 AM

As I posted earlier, just use clear plastic heatshrink over the Neo before mounting, the size is 25mm.

MaxFlyer · 11-03-2016, 12:30 PM

Thanks for the input Oliver, and thanks for the idea of the 25mm heat shrink Vinger. I'll keep my eyes on this topic just incase anybody has the same experience as me.

oliver1071 · 11-03-2016, 05:51 PM

They really just need to use a less brittle plastic and issue new cases to the customers. It's not that difficult I worked in injection molding for a lot of my early adult life before moving in to IT just use something else and be done with it.

The neo is the only fbl unit suffering from this failure fix it.

tshelby73 · 11-03-2016, 06:39 PM

If they just used the same plastic that's on the vlink sats that's some good stuff their I just replace the antenna on one of those and had it apart twice and was pretty rough with it and didn't have any problems.

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mc20piece · 11-05-2016, 06:14 AM

really need to post this stuff over at vstabi, they don't read here much unless directly linked

oliver1071 · 11-05-2016, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc20piece

really need to post this stuff over at vstabi, they don't read here much unless directly linked

Yeah I opened a thread the same time as this one there.
http://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?42,152806

No real movement just that it was being looked in to.

Laughingstill · 11-05-2016, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1071

Yeah I opened a thread the same time as this one there.
http://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?42,152806

No real movement just that it was being looked in to.

Got to give them time to develop, test, retool if necessary, approve, retest, then release

oliver1071 · 11-05-2016, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughingstill

Got to give them time to develop, test, retool if necessary, approve, retest, then release

Oh yeah just saying it was posted on Vstabi just more informative hearing workarounds on here in the meantime rather then bugging them on VStabi.

Laughingstill · 11-05-2016, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1071

Oh yeah just saying it was posted on Vstabi just more informative hearing workarounds on here in the meantime rather then bugging them on VStabi.

Mikado Germany (a totally different company from MikadoUSA), are the ones who would fix this. They don't monitor any forum other than VStabi.info. If they release info, it will be there for sure

You aren't bugging them by asking, they invite responses

Andy from Sandy · 11-06-2016, 06:56 AM

I have not seen the same problem with Futaba RX cases and they use the same design. The gauge of plastic Futaba has used looks thicker.

It is odd that given the company's background they have issues with cases on not just the NEO but the transmitters as well.

Laughingstill · 11-06-2016, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy

I have not seen the same problem with Futaba RX cases and they use the same design. The gauge of plastic Futaba has used looks thicker.

It is odd that given the company's background they have issues with cases on not just the NEO but the transmitters as well.

Transmitter cases are not breaking

Andy from Sandy · 11-06-2016, 08:39 AM

Sorry for off topic and raking over old territory but...

It has been noted by some users some versions of the transmitter doesn't like nitro flyers. lol.

On the silverline I have found out the case melts when Shoe goo is used to hold the connectors in.

I haven't broken a NEO but I have broken the tabs on a satellite.

The comment is that Mikado does plastic but with the many mixtures of the raw materials they have not chosen so well for the ancillaries.

I fly Logo and have NEO and VBC and used to have mini v-bars and silverlines, so not a hater just saying.

Laughingstill · 11-06-2016, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy

Sorry for off topic and raking over old territory but...

It has been noted by some users some versions of the transmitter doesn't like nitro flyers. lol.

On the silverline I have found out the case melts when Shoe goo is used to hold the connectors in.

I haven't broken a NEO but I have broken the tabs on a satellite.

The comment is that Mikado does plastic but with the many mixtures of the raw materials they have not chosen so well for the ancillaries.

I fly Logo and have NEO and VBC and used to have mini v-bars and silverlines, so not a hater just saying.

Not sure what version of the transmitter does not like nitro as I fly nitro and I handle all returns. There were issues with the Champagne which were switched for customers FOC but that was a peeling of the covering, not the plastic.
As for shoe goo, Gorgin uses it exclusively on all his VBARs, never had a case melt. I would like to see if that is a different version of goo???
Obviously Mikado has some work to do on the NEO case, they are, they also handle all customer concerns when they are advised of them.

smwht · 11-06-2016, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughingstill

Not sure what version of the transmitter does not like nitro as I fly nitro and I handle all returns.

I have the standard black vcontrol, it has stains all over it from nitro/exhaust/etc. Functionally it's fine, just doesn't look very nice anymore.

10-18-2016, 11:27 AM	#41 (permalink)
smwht Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2012	Trex 700n broke two flying, nx7 broke one in a crash and one just flying. I assume vibrations from breaking in new nitro motors, plus weird positioning on the trex. Top of the receiver tray isn't great for the all in one units imo... Wiring is ugly. For whatever reason, my synergy nitros have been fine though. __________________ Team Only Fine Helis

10-18-2016, 11:59 AM	#42 (permalink)
Laughingstill Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	My Synergy N-7 with a 105 has been without issue. The NX-7, especially with the YS 120, is a jackhammer and not much survives. You can put thin clear heat shrink around the unit as well before installation to prevent excess movement (did that when I broke the tabs taking the unit apart to look at the internals....works perfectly). __________________ MikadoUSA Tech Support

11-01-2016, 11:15 AM	#43 (permalink)
MaxFlyer Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008	My VBar Neo case appears to have broken mid flight I was flying my TRex 700L gently at the field when I thought I felt the heli twitch and slightly rise a bit in height. When I took the canopy off afterwards the upper lid of the blue receiver case was raised slightly and the tabs were broken. Mikado have answered my emails but cannot believe that I didn't try to reposition the unit or remove it causing the damage myself. There are even two minor cracks in the under body of the case. Has anybody else found case damage after a flight please.

11-01-2016, 04:38 PM	#44 (permalink)
richardv Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK	I was going to get a VBasic for my shockie, but I don't see the case lasting more than a few landings. __________________ rchelicopter@youtube

11-03-2016, 06:29 AM	#46 (permalink)
oliver1071 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	That is odd Max I haven't experienced any problems with the case unless I was removing it and never any cracks in the main case only the tabs breaking off. What surprised me with all of this was that I never put force on the side of the case I just slide a straight edge under the neo which I thought was safe. I guess it tweaks the tabs with any force on the case. I can't see how they would break just flying though even through multiple crashes mine were fine only when I remove them from the gyro tape did the tabs break. But I guess anything is possible. __________________ __________ Goblin 380, 500, 570, Mikado 690SX, 480Xx(Stretched 500) , Protos Mini, Max V2 , Oxy 3, Vbar Control/Neo Vlink (Citizen 758)YouTubeProgress:http://tinyurl.com/oliver1071

11-01-2016, 06:09 PM	#45 (permalink)
MaxFlyer Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008	The interesting thing is that I haven't had a single heavy landing with this heli. After reading comments from other flyers it seems the case cannot stand being ripped off the gyro pad and repositioned but I haven't done any of this. The receiver battery sits next to the VBar Neo and I have to focus my attention on the blue plastic receiver box to make sure the flashing light changes colour after I power it up. I would have seen any damage and not taken off if it had been there before my flight.

11-03-2016, 08:50 AM	#47 (permalink)
Vinger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2007	As I posted earlier, just use clear plastic heatshrink over the Neo before mounting, the size is 25mm. __________________ Henseleit TDR, TDR2, TDF, TDS, TDSF Kontronik, Scorpion ESC, iChargers, VBar, VControl Old hand at Planks Peter

11-03-2016, 12:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
MaxFlyer Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008	Thanks for the input Oliver, and thanks for the idea of the 25mm heat shrink Vinger. I'll keep my eyes on this topic just incase anybody has the same experience as me.

11-03-2016, 05:51 PM	#49 (permalink)
oliver1071 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	They really just need to use a less brittle plastic and issue new cases to the customers. It's not that difficult I worked in injection molding for a lot of my early adult life before moving in to IT just use something else and be done with it. The neo is the only fbl unit suffering from this failure fix it. __________________ __________ Goblin 380, 500, 570, Mikado 690SX, 480Xx(Stretched 500) , Protos Mini, Max V2 , Oxy 3, Vbar Control/Neo Vlink (Citizen 758)YouTubeProgress:http://tinyurl.com/oliver1071

11-03-2016, 06:39 PM	#50 (permalink)
tshelby73 Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2011	If they just used the same plastic that's on the vlink sats that's some good stuff their I just replace the antenna on one of those and had it apart twice and was pretty rough with it and didn't have any problems. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Protos 380 Vbar NEO, HW 60A V4, XNOVA 890KV Raptor E700 700MX 510KV, Castle 120HV w/Vbar Neo Gov 1960 Working on getting Protos max Vcontrol

11-05-2016, 06:14 AM	#51 (permalink)
mc20piece Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2013	really need to post this stuff over at vstabi, they don't read here much unless directly linked

11-06-2016, 06:56 AM	#56 (permalink)
Andy from Sandy Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006	I have not seen the same problem with Futaba RX cases and they use the same design. The gauge of plastic Futaba has used looks thicker. It is odd that given the company's background they have issues with cases on not just the NEO but the transmitters as well.

11-06-2016, 08:39 AM	#58 (permalink)
Andy from Sandy Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006	Sorry for off topic and raking over old territory but... It has been noted by some users some versions of the transmitter doesn't like nitro flyers. lol. On the silverline I have found out the case melts when Shoe goo is used to hold the connectors in. I haven't broken a NEO but I have broken the tabs on a satellite. The comment is that Mikado does plastic but with the many mixtures of the raw materials they have not chosen so well for the ancillaries. I fly Logo and have NEO and VBC and used to have mini v-bars and silverlines, so not a hater just saying.

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