130x main board problem.

[JB123]

Called horizon today and they are sending me out a new board. Person I talked too was very helpful and knowledgeable. Opposite of the last guy I spoke with. Hopefully this takes care of the issue. The customer service has been hit or miss for me but i'm happy they are sending me a new board so I can't complain.

[skunkworx]

The one I've got is only 5 flights old. It does a wierd reset thing when you spool down (blades go to a certain pitch and sticks there for a few seconds and then resets back to full negative).

Now it will allow control on the tail while it's not spooled up, but as soon as it hits like 30-450% throttle, the tail servo just stops working. Cyclics still work, throttle responds as normal, but the darn tail just sticks to one direction and that's it. Once it gets past the reset thing, the tail starts working again. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Kinda crappy to spend nearly $300 and it doesn't even last 24Hrs.

[JB123]

Yup mine does something similar. The more throttle i give it the more the tail sticks out also. On mine the aileron moves to the right side slowly also until its full aileron right. I spool down and it all goes back to normal. I called hh and they agreed that the gyro thinks that it is going left all the time so it tries to correct right slowly. Call hh they will send you a new board hopefully. And yes it sucks!

[skunkworx]

Well, just got off the phone with HH and they agreed to send me a new board. Can't really complain about that at all, but it does worry me that if I were to ever recommend this heli again that someone with a lot less experience wouldn't know how to get it replaced.

The heli itself is great and it's pretty unbelievable how far they've come since I got in the hobby almost 6 years ago, but it's a problem that plagued all the 'cheap' helis out of existence and could very well have a similar impact on the 130X if they can't get a handle on the failures. I've had my MCPX for a while now and bash the daylights out of it on a regular basis and its been nothing but a solid performer. Fingers crossed that the replacement board goes the distance!

[Spoolemup]

I'm sure you've checked this but just in case, check your throttle curve at down-stick position. Make sure that the output is 0 or less. If its in the positive, it might not initialize correctly.
Just a thought..

[tomatwalden]

Originally Posted by skunkworx

The one I've got is only 5 flights old. It does a wierd reset thing when you spool down (blades go to a certain pitch and sticks there for a few seconds and then resets back to full negative).

Now it will allow control on the tail while it's not spooled up, but as soon as it hits like 30-450% throttle, the tail servo just stops working. Cyclics still work, throttle responds as normal, but the darn tail just sticks to one direction and that's it. Once it gets past the reset thing, the tail starts working again. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Kinda crappy to spend nearly $300 and it doesn't even last 24Hrs.

This sound like the issue I had after I had stripped the tail "C" gear. The flat spot in the gear is very weak, mine stripped after I spooled up in long-ish grass catching the tail gear. I guess the TT can't provide enough torque to the tail so the servo over-compensates.

[skunkworx]

Originally Posted by Spoolemup

I'm sure you've checked this but just in case, check your throttle curve at down-stick position. Make sure that the output is 0 or less. If its in the positive, it might not initialize correctly.
Just a thought..

That's not a bad idea actually. But I also agree, I probably checked it without thinking since I've run into that issue in the past. I just can't specifically remember looking at it other than a quick glance. At any rate, I have a new board on the way and if that fixes it then I'm golden. It's great little machine and I really look forward to getting a ton of flights out of it. Just gotta get through the bugs. I've had electronics of all makes and models die on me, so it's nothing new and nothing unexpected. I just wish it'd happended to someone else!!! lol (J/K, it was probably best that it happened to an experienced modeler as a complete newb would've been pulling his hair out of his head trying to figure out what was wrong with it).

Tomatwalden - no, I don't believe this is the case as it was never crashed. It just up and stopped working no matter what you do to it. It's also a very consistent failure and it repeats no matter what you do to it, so I'm pretty sure it's something crossed in the board. If not, it's possibly the tail servo itself which the guy at HH said could be a possibility, but we both think it's the board's fault. Guess I'll find out later this week?

[Beebad]

Just to be on record, my buddy was trying to adj. the tail gain down and when he was done all that was left was throttle. The motor would run and throttle up and down. None of the servos would work though. To their credit, HH took care of it.

[JB123]

This worked GSPI. I went to an existing model memory for the mvpx

[JB123]

This worked GSPI i went to an existing model memory for mcpx and enteredbin 130 x programming and this fixed the issue. I don't know why it fixed it but it did. Thanks!

[JB123]

I' m all thumbs today i can spellll i swear

[GSPI]

Originally Posted by JB123

This worked GSPI i went to an existing model memory for mcpx and enteredbin 130 x programming and this fixed the issue. I don't know why it fixed it but it did. Thanks!

Originally Posted by JB123

I' m all thumbs today i can spellll i swear

Glad it worked out. Sometimes just reprogramming and re-booting helps... and yes, it does not make any sense at all but it does work.

Now just use those thumbs to go flying!

[skunkworx]

Well, I found the problem. Turns out it had a stripped gear in the tail box (the bigger one). I guess it had just enough grab on the gear to make the tail spin, but not under authority. The gear would spin on the shaft and I guess when the gyros couldn't make anymore difference, they'd basiclally lock up and stop moving. Not sure why it does the reset thing still, but the heli flies fine with the new ESC/board and gear replacement, but both boards acted exactly the same. Weird....

[ChrisG23]

Thats common. Get the new metal A gear, and stock up on C & D gears. I have been improving with my flying skills, but if I duff it I fully expect to have to replace a C gear. If it turns out to be fine, then I feel like I lucked out. A lot of guy's like to complain about this helo. The truth is, when working properly, it is an amazing heli. But you cant expect it to bounce like an mcpx. Bottom line is if you assemble it correctly, and keep the mains and tail blades out of the dirt, it will fly well for a long time. Have fun!

[soupy01833]

Originally Posted by JB123

This worked GSPI i went to an existing model memory for mcpx and enteredbin 130 x programming and this fixed the issue. I don't know why it fixed it but it did. Thanks!

I did the same thing once for resolution. It woked for me also. then i wanted to know why. checked the monitor of the old memory slot and my aileron trim was was off. someone must have leaned on the button when i was not looking.


so if you have the old slot see if there is any trims that are way off.

[skunkworx]

Originally Posted by ChrisG23

Thats common. Get the new metal A gear, and stock up on C & D gears.

I think I'm finding this out the hard way. I spent quite a while scratching my head over it and caught it completely by accident. The good thing is now I know and I can relate to anyone who might have the same problem. Just feel kind of dumb for not catching it sooner. I'm not much of a fan of TT's to begin with and none of my larger helis have them, so my troubleshooting skills aren't very well developed in that department.

Gotta ask, why would it need a new A gear? We ordered a bunch of spare tail gearsets initially and it came with the one gear I replaced last night (I think it's the C gear everyone keeps mentioning [no, I haven't read the manual or know the names of the parts yet]), but I can see how they'd end up getting busted a lot. Same thing with the front TT on my old 450 Pro, although this one seems a lot less prone to complete failure. Is there any way to save a gear that is slightly slipping? I was thinking about putting some CA on it and trying it out, but after all the work to get the stupid gear in there to begin with, I didn't want to risk having to tear it apart again today. Probably should've saved it, just in case but I didn't. Guess I'll learn a little more about it over time. I definitely like the way it flies over my MCPX, but I still hold that little booger near and dear to my heart. It's taught me a lot in the year I've owned it and I don't begrudge its lower performance because that's actually been keeping me out of trouble. I have a feeling if I go B/L on it, it won't be nearly as durable.

[ChrisG23]

"Gotta ask, why would it need a new A gear?"

Get a metal one and once the plastic one gets stripped, swap it in. The idea is that you wont have to buy the A gear anymore which is $12.50. The package with the C & D gears comes with 2 pairs for $4.

[skunkworx]

Oh, I thought it already was metal. Guess I was thinking of the B gear? (the one on the front of the TT).

[deonjams]

Originally Posted by skunkworx

The one I've got is only 5 flights old. It does a wierd reset thing when you spool down (blades go to a certain pitch and sticks there for a few seconds and then resets back to full negative).

Now it will allow control on the tail while it's not spooled up, but as soon as it hits like 30-450% throttle, the tail servo just stops working. Cyclics still work, throttle responds as normal, but the darn tail just sticks to one direction and that's it. Once it gets past the reset thing, the tail starts working again. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Kinda crappy to spend nearly $300 and it doesn't even last 24Hrs.

Did you ever sort this issue out? Thought it was the tail servo but stripped that and it seems ok. Main board? Mine does EXACTLY the same