Diabolo setups

[michalp]

Diabolo 700(yellow Black)
90° dampering
Scorp 4535- 4+4 YY 560 KV @ 19t pinion
Scorp Commander 160 Opto
Scorpion Competition 4500 Packs & Scorpion performance 4500 Packs
Linus HV² BEC
MKS HBL 850
MKS HBL 880

Spartan Vortex VX1n
MS Composit Rapid 710 FBL
Rails 116 @ silver 26 pulley

[jcflyer]

MiniCopter Diabolo:

Scorpion 4525-520 Ultimate
Kontronik Power Jive 120 HV
HeliCommand HC3-SX
Torq-9180 HV Cyclics x 3
Torq-9188 HV Tail x1
Rail 716/106 Blades
2S Lipo Unregulated
Futaba RX/Telemtry

[Spencerkey]

Diabolo ‘18 700
Pyro 700-45L
MKS 575SL
Jive Pro 120 w/ Telme
Neo
Rail 716/116
R2 Buffer
Lunsford Aluminum screws
Red tail pulley
16T pinion

Diabolo ‘18 BE 800 w/ tri tail
Pyro 800-48L
Xpert R2
K160 w/ Telme
Neo
Xblades 806/116
R2 Buffer
Red tail pulley
19T pinion

Triabolo BE 700 (soon to be a 800 w/ tri tail)
Pyro 750
Xpert R2
K160 w/ Telme
Neo
NHP 680/Radix 110
R2 Buffer
Red tail pulley
18T pinion

[trillian]

Just realised I never posted my setup here after finally settling on components... and then I changed a few things around more recently. The current setup is:

Original version Triabolo 700

NHP 690 mains and 110 tail
Dekker Pyro 700 / 530 Kv
Jive 120HV (originally had a K160 on it but discovered that amp draw was really quite low)
R2 Prototyping cap pack as a buffer
RJX fs 0521HV servos on the swash
Fut BLS276SV on the tail
Spartan VX1N
13 tooth TDR pinion for low headspeed on 12s

[snbartley]

I used to have a Diabolo set up with a Pyro 750 running 14s with a 115 amp Jeti Mezon and had no issues. Like Trillian I had Kosmiks and found the amp draw to be low enough that it was not needed. This leads me to question are the high amp Kosmiks really needed? I see at the beginning of the thread that many people were using other smaller ESC's without incident. Then people start to change and most are using the higher amp ESC's. Is this overkill just because or are others doing something I am not that causes higher amp draws? I know speed runs cause higher but what else am I missing.

I ask because I am returning to flying after about four years off and am planning on going the Diabolo route again and am trying to decide if I was missing something before and was just lucky even though my amp draw was well under 100 given my mild 3D/sport flying?

[Dr.Ben]

You'll see no higher peaks now than you did 4 years ago with your flying. The push to higher esc nominal ratings has been driven by progressively harder 3D and certain speed models that were overamping and causing the K200 to run a bit hot.

The one thing to be aware of if you happen to choose a JivePro120 which replaced the PowerJive while you were gone is that because the esc has such a fast processor, it will pull back power at 160amps or more peak when the PowerJive wouldn't "see" them before they had already passed. Identical current specs, but JivePro is much "smarter".

Ben Minor

[snbartley]

Ben

Thanks for the reply. You confirmed what I was thinking. I looked back in my records and found that my KDE 700 motors on both my Goblin 770s had average amps of 40-50 with spikes up to around 200. I switched these out to Pyro motors when I switched over to a Diabolo and Triabolo but as my memory serves I believe the amp draw was no more with these two motors. My flying style has not changed so think I don't need to go crazy with high end ESC's. If I get crazy later I can alway upgrade if needed.

[simontiny]

Originally Posted by Mercuriell

I was asked about the gear ratios of the Diabolo - here is a copy of some info I posted elsewhere:



If you want to treat the two stage gears as a single stage for ease of use of HS Calcs just input a main gear tooth size of 196 and that will give you your HS with the available pinions

Hi,

I'm not sure that is the good ratio Gear. It's for the 700.
The 700 UL is a 600 stretch.
Then, the main gear is 210 and not 196......

Simon

[Raptorapture]

Originally Posted by simontiny

Hi,

I'm not sure that is the good ratio Gear. It's for the 700.
The 700 UL is a 600 stretch.
Then, the main gear is 210 and not 196......

Simon

You realize the 700 UL is not 7 years old like the post you quoted and the 600 also did not exist back then as well?

[simontiny]

Perhaps I'm in late?

[Raptorapture]

Originally Posted by simontiny

Perhaps I'm in late?

Never too late for a Diabolo. Gerd has not been idle so lots of options now

[Rabid121]

.... just to bring the thread back to life:

Diabolo '18 700L, Black Edition:

Egodrift Tengu 4525HS 550, Pinion 18T
BLS 471/BLS 276
Hobbywing 130aV4
AR7700/TM1000/j-log S32
VBar NEO
VTX 717, RT 116
aluminum screws (non critical places)
red tail pulley, rigid head, battery tray

TOW 4.9kg with 4400/45C battery

Ciao
Michael

[AndyO]

Very nice 👍

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[emilgoddard]

Just ordered my first minicopter 700 last weekend. I got the 550 around Christmas and now have to have a 700.

Diabolo 700 Black Edition- Rigid head- Tri tail/silver pulley- 19t pinion
Main Blades- vtx 697 or 717. Will try them both and decide which ones i like more.
Tail Blades- Rotor Tech 106
Motor- Pyro 750-56l comp
Esc- Kosmik cool 210 hv-i
Servos- Cyclic-Futaba bls272 Tail- Futaba bls276
Fbl- Vlink Neo
Batteries- 5100mah 12s maniax
Target headspeed- 1950

[AndyO]

Nice 👍 you're gonna love it!

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[MKMAERO]

A friend of mine flies a Diabolo 700. I never really paid much attention to it until this summer when I gave it a close look and was quite impressed....enough so that I decided to order one. Since I already have a few 700s, I decided on the Diabolo 600. It's complete and ready to fly. Just need the snow to go away and the temperatures to go up!

Diabolo 600, Classic canopy with carbon fiber windshield, black Diabolo decal and Tenax rear canopy mounts. Skids and head with follower arms are from the UL. I'll be starting off with a 20T motor pinion.

KDE 600XF 530 kv motor
12S 3300 Thunderpower and Gensace
IKON2
Jeti REX 7 receiver
KDE R2 cyclic servos
Futaba BLS276SV tail servo
Rotortech 610U main blades
Rotortech 105 tail blades
Kontronik Jive Pro 120HV with a heat sink
2S lipo backup in parallel with Jive Pro BEC

[Freeskiken]

I built a Diabolo 600 in the fall so now I have decided on a Diabolo 700 BE. It will have.

Egodrift 4530HS-510 motor
Scorpion Tribunus 200amp ESC
VBar Neo
MKS HBL599 Servos
ProTek 270 SBL
R2 Buffer
Revo 715mm Main Blades
Rail 116mm Tail Blades

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by Freeskiken

I built a Diabolo 600 in the fall so now I have decided on a Diabolo 700 BE. It will have.

Egodrift 4530HS-510 motor
Scorpion Tribunus 200amp ESC
VBar Neo
MKS HBL599 Servos
ProTek 270 SBL
R2 Buffer
Revo 715mm Main Blades
Rail 116mm Tail Blades

You have this ready by the June FF? Really looking forward to seeing this!!

[Freeskiken]

I hope to have it ready for June. It on route now. I have all the electronics. My custom canopies will be a while.

[Joeribar]

Let's go I bought a Diabolo 700 Black Edition again 👌🏻🤙🏻


Setup
*MKS HBL 575 SL cyclic
*MKS HBL 880 tail
*Xera 4530 530kv (rewound as a xnova 4530)
*YGE 205 V2 Black Edition or YGE 135 Aureus
*Vbar neo vlink pro
*DH 711mm blades (for now)
*NHP tail blades
*SLS 12s 5000mah 65/130c

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