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PTFlyer · 12-10-2013, 01:33 PM

Here's my tip of the day...

For fixing cracked canopies...
For helping to stop canopies from cracking in the first place...

What I do is I coat the inside edge all around the top, about an inch or so in, with "welder" contact cement..

This is the same stuff foamie guys use to form hinges on two piece control services....this stuff goes on thin and fills the gap to create the hinge..

thats how flexable this stuff is...it goes on clear and when it's dry it's tack free and you can't really even tell it there

I just run a small bead then smooth it out with my finger ......ti doesn't need to be thick to work....

You can even do that to existing crack...just coat the backside over the crack..rub it smooth and let it set up...

you can find it on ebay for about 10 bucks for the double tube pack if your hardware store doesn't carry it

blkrvn1993 · 12-10-2013, 03:23 PM

Bottom line! Helidirect is a distributor of SAB. Helidirect also carries the HeliWow canopies under PF. So why is someone from SAB on here bitching when their own distributor is selling these canopies for the Goblin helicopters? Maybe SAB should of not allowed Helidirect to sale these canopies to begin with or facilitate competition for Canomod!!!! (SAB, tell that to the judge when you try to argue your case!)

The end user, who buys SAB's product and it is now that person's property to do WHATEVER they want with it, including putting WHATEVER canopy they want on it, has the right to buy products from WHOMEVER they want for their needs.

NevErSn0w · 12-10-2013, 03:39 PM

Here here! Well said buddy!

mhills51 · 12-10-2013, 04:21 PM

It's all screwy! I am surprised ThunderTiger is still in business. The only thing I can think of is that their CEO's are all attorneys. They would sue anyone that made a bolt. I guess that would make sense, Make more money on suing than helis at the time.

Today's times are different. I think SAB is just trying to make a stand, but at the wrong guys. If they made a tail that was 100% the same they could have a argument, but once they put just two holes in for mounting, once they painted it a different color. It's no longer the same product. You also have to put in the % of the design. I am sure LynX and KDE are not paying any royalty's and they are making parts for the Goblin.

alexmit · 12-10-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mhills51

It's all screwy! I am surprised ThunderTiger is still in business. The only thing I can think of is that their CEO's are all attorneys. They would sue anyone that made a bolt. I guess that would make sense, Make more money on suing than helis at the time.

Today's times are different. I think SAB is just trying to make a stand, but at the wrong guys. If they made a tail that was 100% the same they could have a argument, but once they put just two holes in for mounting, once they painted it a different color. It's no longer the same product. You also have to put in the % of the design. I am sure LynX and KDE are not paying any royalty's and they are making parts for the Goblin.

You are drawing a different parallel when you mention LynX and KDE. They aren't offering parts/upgrades on a part that SAB or other heli companies own a patent on.
I'm not arguing patents here. The fact is that when something is patented, it is not supposed to be reproduced without licensing/permission from the patent holder. It doesn't matter if it's a tail boom, a coffee cup or a screw… It's patent law whether you agree with it or not.

mhills51 · 12-11-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alexmit

The fact is that when something is patented, it is not supposed to be reproduced without licensing/permission from the patent holder.

My larger point is that they did indeed make a change from the original patent. Now rather it is change large enough to keep a Judge from ruling? Also taking in to account that SAB isn't making the part. So even if the Judge finds in favor of SAB they are only entitled to the % they get from Canomod. Third is they would need China to comply. I think it would be too small of a case for what ever court to proceed.

I also have to wonder if it is just Patent pending? It usually take several years to get through the process and if they had a Patent on lets say the 700 it would most likely need to be re-submitted for the 500. (back to if you make any-changes) If it is just shape, usually your patent would be rejected.

Just looked at the SAB sight and it says patent application which would be the same a patent pending.

PTFlyer · 12-11-2013, 10:01 PM

And I do believe that the patent is for a CF boom???.....shrug...

Not sure if it makes a difference or not but heliwow is not in china but in Vietnam.

and what about toucanopy.com or is it just the tail boom that has them all it a tizzy?

SeanM · 12-11-2013, 11:06 PM

I believe they're only really concerned about the tail boom design, the material doesn't change whether or not patent laws are being broken. If this part was easily duplicable, then Goblin clones would be possible.

mhills51 · 12-12-2013, 04:58 PM

Well if they are Vietnam that could be a problem, but only after and if the patent go's through. By that time they may not even be in business anymore lol!

Lee2782 · 12-14-2013, 03:26 PM

I would like a G500 canopy that looks like the new completion series Canopy the one with red through it can I purchase one anywhere? Does anyone make them? How much?

alexmit · 12-15-2013, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee2782

I would like a G500 canopy that looks like the new completion series Canopy the one with red through it can I purchase one anywhere? Does anyone make them? How much?

You can custom order any paint scheme on a Goblin canopy.

PTFlyer · 12-18-2013, 12:25 PM

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PTFlyer · 12-28-2013, 10:42 AM

OK...I fit the canopy and boom....

the boom went on without a hitch...after I epoxied the nuts to the metal inside channel piece... and used double sided tape to hold it in place....much like the nuts for the tail case....

the canopy was a bit tight for my liking and rubbed by the front frame bolts ....a little stuffing and a hairdryer fixed that enough.....

There was also a bit of rubbing on the left aileron servo frame...but not enough for me to worry about .....and the back over the tail boom's gap was quite wide....so some rubber bands and the hairdyer in that area made it alot better...

All in all I give the set about the same grades as I would a canomod canopy ...but at least I got a unique set and a bit cheaper....

Raz0rSh4rp · 12-28-2013, 01:09 PM

Looks very nice!

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Otto Rotation · 12-28-2013, 07:58 PM

I would like to be able to buy blank canopies and booms from SAB or Canomod and have them painted by a shop of my choice. I have some design ideas I want to try out.

alexmit · 12-29-2013, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto Rotation

I would like to be able to buy blank canopies and booms from SAB or Canomod and have them painted by a shop of my choice. I have some design ideas I want to try out.

You might want to contact canomod. I seem to remember that you can at least get an unpainted canopy. I'm not sure about the boom.

CobraKiller · 12-29-2013, 02:55 PM

I'm enjoying this thread

ady · 12-29-2013, 04:30 PM

otto rotation , is this any help ? http://www.flying-hobby.com/toucanop...y-p-12150.html

Coco66 · 01-15-2014, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ady

otto rotation , is this any help ? http://www.flying-hobby.com/toucanop...y-p-12150.html

What's this? A canopy for my girlfriend?

Quote:

Included:
1x GF Unpaint white canopy

ddhuans · 01-15-2014, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coco66

What's this? A canopy for my girlfriend?

GF is stand for Glass-Fiber

12-10-2013, 01:33 PM	#41 (permalink)
PTFlyer Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2006	Here's my tip of the day... For fixing cracked canopies... For helping to stop canopies from cracking in the first place... What I do is I coat the inside edge all around the top, about an inch or so in, with "welder" contact cement.. This is the same stuff foamie guys use to form hinges on two piece control services....this stuff goes on thin and fills the gap to create the hinge.. thats how flexable this stuff is...it goes on clear and when it's dry it's tack free and you can't really even tell it there I just run a small bead then smooth it out with my finger ......ti doesn't need to be thick to work.... You can even do that to existing crack...just coat the backside over the crack..rub it smooth and let it set up... you can find it on ebay for about 10 bucks for the double tube pack if your hardware store doesn't carry it Attached Thumbnails

12-10-2013, 03:39 PM	#43 (permalink)
NevErSn0w Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2013	Here here! Well said buddy! __________________ Darcy Brown- ZenRC Field Rep RED! Goblin 500, Quantum 4120-1200, BK Servos, from www.zenrc.com.au ORANGE! Goblin Speed, Kosmik Kool 200HV, Pyro 850-50L, BK Servos, Brain

12-10-2013, 04:21 PM	#44 (permalink)
mhills51 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	It's all screwy! I am surprised ThunderTiger is still in business. The only thing I can think of is that their CEO's are all attorneys. They would sue anyone that made a bolt. I guess that would make sense, Make more money on suing than helis at the time. Today's times are different. I think SAB is just trying to make a stand, but at the wrong guys. If they made a tail that was 100% the same they could have a argument, but once they put just two holes in for mounting, once they painted it a different color. It's no longer the same product. You also have to put in the % of the design. I am sure LynX and KDE are not paying any royalty's and they are making parts for the Goblin. __________________ Micah

12-11-2013, 11:06 PM	#48 (permalink)
SeanM Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010	I believe they're only really concerned about the tail boom design, the material doesn't change whether or not patent laws are being broken. If this part was easily duplicable, then Goblin clones would be possible. __________________ - 6S TREX 450 Pro FBL - µBeast, MKS, Castle Creations - Goblin 500 - Kontronik Pyro 600-12, Jive 100lv, iKon, BK servos - TBS Discovery - Pixhawk - Spektrum DX7

12-12-2013, 04:58 PM	#49 (permalink)
mhills51 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	Well if they are Vietnam that could be a problem, but only after and if the patent go's through. By that time they may not even be in business anymore lol! __________________ Micah

12-10-2013, 03:23 PM	#42 (permalink)
blkrvn1993 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2010	Bottom line! Helidirect is a distributor of SAB. Helidirect also carries the HeliWow canopies under PF. So why is someone from SAB on here bitching when their own distributor is selling these canopies for the Goblin helicopters? Maybe SAB should of not allowed Helidirect to sale these canopies to begin with or facilitate competition for Canomod!!!! (SAB, tell that to the judge when you try to argue your case!) The end user, who buys SAB's product and it is now that person's property to do WHATEVER they want with it, including putting WHATEVER canopy they want on it, has the right to buy products from WHOMEVER they want for their needs.

12-11-2013, 10:01 PM	#47 (permalink)
PTFlyer Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2006	And I do believe that the patent is for a CF boom???.....shrug... Not sure if it makes a difference or not but heliwow is not in china but in Vietnam. and what about toucanopy.com or is it just the tail boom that has them all it a tizzy?

12-14-2013, 03:26 PM	#50 (permalink)
Lee2782 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2011	I would like a G500 canopy that looks like the new completion series Canopy the one with red through it can I purchase one anywhere? Does anyone make them? How much? __________________ Revolectrix Ambassador Revolectrix.com 10% Discount All Products Code LEESS17

12-18-2013, 12:25 PM	#52 (permalink)
PTFlyer Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2006	..... Attached Thumbnails

12-28-2013, 10:42 AM	#53 (permalink)
PTFlyer Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2006	OK...I fit the canopy and boom.... the boom went on without a hitch...after I epoxied the nuts to the metal inside channel piece... and used double sided tape to hold it in place....much like the nuts for the tail case.... the canopy was a bit tight for my liking and rubbed by the front frame bolts ....a little stuffing and a hairdryer fixed that enough..... There was also a bit of rubbing on the left aileron servo frame...but not enough for me to worry about .....and the back over the tail boom's gap was quite wide....so some rubber bands and the hairdyer in that area made it alot better... All in all I give the set about the same grades as I would a canomod canopy ...but at least I got a unique set and a bit cheaper.... Attached Thumbnails

12-28-2013, 01:09 PM	#54 (permalink)
Raz0rSh4rp Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2012	Looks very nice! Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk __________________ NX4\|Tri-Chronos\|Chronos\|7NT\|Specter700 Saje Marvin - Citizen 125

12-28-2013, 07:58 PM	#55 (permalink)
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12-29-2013, 02:55 PM	#57 (permalink)
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12-29-2013, 04:30 PM	#58 (permalink)
ady Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2007	otto rotation , is this any help ? http://www.flying-hobby.com/toucanop...y-p-12150.html

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