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02-03-2013, 09:33 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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Vmmattil / Blade450 - glad I could be of help... was thinking with all the problems I had if it wrote it up could help others. helifanatic99 - Great tip on adding some extra pitch against torque and easy to do by sling the servo back. You are correct the DS35 is not stronger but it is faster and that's what I think made the heli feel more like it was on a rail like my bigger helis. Good Eye - I did pull of the heat shrink that holds the servo together so I could get it to fit better in the bracket - what I did was instead put a clear piece of clear packing tape on the case seam to hold it together...
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02-03-2013, 09:40 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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There are more details and discussion about the DS35 titled: 130x – New Tail Servo is a MUST HAVE at https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=493840
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02-03-2013, 10:49 PM | #23 (permalink) | |
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Vmmattil - I've read this post a couple times and sounds like a good tip but I'm sure what you mean - does the tail shaft collar have different ends I thought it was just a tube - are you talking about the slider or the collar below
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02-04-2013, 09:12 AM | #24 (permalink) |
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No, he's not talking about the small metal tube, which is actually a spacer, that goes in between the D gear and the left side flange bearing. The tail collar is the small round piece with the two small Phillips screws 180 degrees apart that goes on the end of the tail rotor shaft that sticks out on the left side of the tail box and keeps the tail rotor shaft from pulling out to the right. The tapered/angled side of the tail collar goes towards the flange bearing, not the larger flat side. If you put it on backwards, you can bind up that flange bearing.
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02-04-2013, 09:43 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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The picture, however, is of the tail spacer with an example of the TT coming out of the C gear and rubbing the spacer.
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02-04-2013, 02:18 PM | #26 (permalink) | |
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Blade 130x Tail Issue - Spinning Tail, Tail Blowout, Issue / Resolution
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02-04-2013, 02:33 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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I don't have a picture, myself, but flip that tail collar around. That's the correct orientation. Tapered side in towards the bearing makes the most sense because it only contacts the inner race. The flat side in will rub on both the inner and outer races of the left flange bearing, and you don't want that. If it didn't make a difference, both sides would be flat (easier machining).
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02-04-2013, 06:56 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
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02-04-2013, 08:08 PM | #29 (permalink) | |
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02-04-2013, 10:32 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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Getting enough pitch against torque is another setup tip that will help prevent tail blowout, with stock or the DS35 servo. Unlike other helis where you adjust the ball linkage (you can do that on the 130x as well) you can quickly change the pitch by just sliding the servo back toward the tail to get more pitch against torque (in other words the pitch that would have the heli turn right / pushing the tail left)
Like your bigger helis a little tail pitch make neutral spool up and gives you a bit more bite when you really pushing the tail What I recommend is marking your starting point with a piece of tape as a reference, then when you move the servo you can see where it was in relationship to where you started. Temember sliding the servo aft towards the tail will give you more pitch against torque.
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02-08-2013, 03:18 PM | #31 (permalink) | |
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Only thing different I did was instead of moving the whole servo and mount, I just adjusted the ball link and the end of the linkage four twists out. Before that, my tail blades were at the closest to zero mid pitch at mid point. Basically, youre unscrewing the ball link two full revolutions past zero pitch (check out my attachments below). Now I can go 40+ ft in the air, slam negative collective then slam it to full positive right before it touches the asphalt. It'll catch, pop and the tail is SOLID. I tried bery very hard to blowout the tail.... just not possible anymore. Had to lower the gain on the board one single degree to get rid of an ever so small wag (anally unnoticeable amount) during fast backwards flight (both 90'd and 45'd). Heli flys like my 700E |
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02-08-2013, 03:47 PM | #32 (permalink) | |
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03-10-2013, 07:03 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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Started with vibration but I think on closer look I found the problem causing the tail to spin...
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03-11-2013, 04:59 AM | #34 (permalink) |
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OUCH!!!!!
That hurts just to LOOK at it!! I'm guessing...a tail plant... Or did you "find" something like the hard side of a rock....???!! Just lost the last plastic pitch slider I'm putting on mine...the MH metal parts are on their way....Until repairs to the 130X are accomplished....I'll be busying myself with a new mCPx BL.....! |
03-11-2013, 08:31 AM | #35 (permalink) | |
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Agree the mCPx BL is a great little heli w a faster pop then the 130x and better crash recovery
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03-11-2013, 11:18 AM | #37 (permalink) |
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I've been through two, and so far I don't like them as much. Main reason I got them to begin with was the coffee grinding with the metal. The first one tore up the D slit at the B gear in a crash and the second one ended up warping - I'm sure as a result from crashing.
I resolved the coffee grinding by loosening the boom support mount and pushing it up and down the boom until the mesh felt the smoothest (you need the main gear off to test) and then tightening. Since doing this, my metal TT works great and doesn't grind. I do have to pay attention to it sticking out of the C gear after a crash. The CF TT fit perfectly on the C gear and never stuck out. In hindsight, the grinding is good with the metal TT as it lets me know when my boom supports are knocked out of position in a crash, whereas the CF TT I wouldn't hear anything, and would keep flying, probably warping it and wearing my bearings. |
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08-15-2013, 01:28 AM | #39 (permalink) |
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Hi all,
I recently purchased one of these but I'm having a few issues. There seems to be a wealth of information on this little heli and many different ideas. My problem is this, throttle up heli, ideal up 75 or 100% it does not matter. Hard increase the pitch and the tail blows put counter clockwise, hold the pitch and it keeps spinning like not enough tail authority. Let go to hover and she spins back round clockwise as many times as required to find original HH position. She then fly's great as long as movement are gentle. Now the weird bit, sometimes it seems like I unplug the battery and power on again and she's fine. Anyone heard of such a thing? Thanks Kev
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