Next Logo after 550SX: 690SX or 700 Exxtreme???

[Flipper76]

I've been flying for 2 years and have had a Logo 550SX for the last year. I love the heli and definitely happy with my choice, it's been a great tool for me to learn and evolve my 3D flying.

Now I'm considering stepping up to a 700 size machine, and I wonder which one would be more useful and a better "school" for me between the 690SX and the 700 Exxtreme.

I've read the basic diferences between the 2 here in the forum, but which one would be more useful for me and help me speed up the 3D learning curve the most?

Or let's phrase the question in a different way: considering that potentially you would end up getting both, which one should one get first? Which one will allow me to learn more tricks and progress my flying the most?

Thanks!

Felipe

[Corvette & Copter Guy]

Both are great models. Of course the 700 is heavier. So if you want lighter go with the 690SX.

[waheed1998]

i wanted to know the same thing i'm somebody asked this question,i can say this thought if money is not a question then the 700 is your ticket.As you seek to be a 3d pilot your going to crash and this i where 690 is going to be your friend simply cost less to repair.

[Flipper76]

what difference does it make to be lighter?

[Corvette & Copter Guy]

The 700 is huge. It really stands out among other 700 models. The frame is carbon fiber VS plastic. The head is big as well and is shared in the 800 Xxtreme. I personally like a little more weight. Kinda like a big car...the ride is smoother.

[I Fly Helis]

Originally Posted by Flipper76

what difference does it make to be lighter?

It makes a huge difference. I just finished my 690 (I love it!!) and am building a 700 now. They are completely differny a beasts. The 690 will be very floaty, and won't be a powerhouse(not saying it is weak) whereas the 700 will be a monster that will handle anything you can through at it.

I don't want to tell you to get either but consider this:

690 is cheaper to buy and to repair
690 will not fly as precise or beastly in the air
The 700 is a more complex build, which is good for someone with little build experience.
Both are abolutely incredible

[Flipper76]

Originally Posted by Corvette & Copter Guy

The 700 is huge. It really stands out among other 700 models. I personally like a little more weight. Kinda like a big car...the ride is smoother.

do you feel like the extra weight actually helps you in some manuevers?

[Flipper76]

Originally Posted by I Fly Helis

The 690 will be very floaty, and won't be a powerhouse(not saying it is weak) whereas the 700 will be a monster that will handle anything you can through at it.

I don't want to tell you to get either but consider this:

690 is cheaper to buy and to repair
690 will not fly as precise or beastly in the air
The 700 is a more complex build, which is good for someone with little build experience.
Both are abolutely incredible

you mean the 700 is a more complex build so good for someone with more build experience?

Also, do you feel the extra weight helps in learning manuevers?

[I Fly Helis]

Originally Posted by Flipper76

you mean the 700 is a more complex build so good for someone with more build experience?

Also, do you feel the extra weight helps in learning manuevers?

No, you should get the experience of a build that is more complex than the standard logo plastic frame build.

I would not say more weight is better for learning manuevers. Neither heavier nor lighter is better for learning.

[Flipper76]

Originally Posted by I Fly Helis

No, you should get the experience of a build that is more complex than the standard logo plastic frame build.

I would not say more weight is better for learning manuevers. Neither heavier nor lighter is better for learning.

so you think the weight makes a difference only in how stable it is in the wind and stuff?

Thanks!

[I Fly Helis]

The 700 is going to track better (be more precise) than the 690 due to its weight.

[Phil777]

690 pros
Flight time
Weight
Cost
Cons
Limited motor options (although the stock motor does the job just fine)
Any wind and it's going to be harder to learn.
No battery tray

700
Pros
Precise in any weather
Runs up to 750 blades
Very visible
Very strong drive train

Cons
Cost
Weight
Flight time


Just my opinion, depends what you like at the end of the day, if money wasn't a issue i would get the 700




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[KevinB]

As an in-between step, you might want to try converting your 550sx into an "se". My first logo was a 550sx. The next year, I got a 550se and by mid-flying season, I had stretched my sx as a backup ship. The cost to change the sx to se is minimal. ( boom, belt, TR control rod, and 600mm blades if you don't already have some)
I much prefer the feel of the se.

Going from the 550se to the 690sx, you have way more power to help push through maneuvers. The 690sx has better visibility, both because it's bigger and the white bellypan really shows up in the air. I've seen several Logo700s fly and even though they a quite a bit bigger on the ground, they don't look a whole lot different in the air.

For competition, I'm sure the Logo 700 would be the right choice. For learning though, the extra flight time (EVERY flight), and lower crash costs.........that's what really counts. I was flying my 690 in 30mph gusting winds on Sat. Other than my hat blowing off, the heli handled it just fine. ( much better than the 550 ). The 690 had small altitude changes when hit by gusts but that was it.

Because of the light weight, the 690 flys really well at 1600-1800 as well. At 1600, I can get 10min flights if I'm not banging on the collective.

The Logo700 is impressive, but for learning on, I chose the 690sx, and I'm not regretting it in the least.

KevinB

[taosgraveyard]

Maybe this was maemtioned

The 690 does share some parts with the 550 SX, which could be nice

However, the 690sx does not share as many parts as say, the 600 SX does

The others posts are correct, the 690 SX and e 700 are so totally different sometimes it seems as though they come from different companies.

Both fly great, but different

[NLTRex]

Hi,

I have a 550SX and a 690SX and have had a 700xxtream. The difference between the 690SX and the 700 are chalk and cheese - very different to fly in my opinion. The 690SX flies just like a bigger 550SX - which is all I ever wanted. Love it.

[Jdarc1]

I have been flying logos for several years now. I have owned all of the current models. 500, 500se, 550sx, 600, 600sx, 690sx and the 700 extreme. I currently own 550sx, 600sx and 690sx. I love the way all of the models fly except I was a little disappointed with the 700 and so I sold it and bought the 690sx to replace it.

The models with the plastic frames have a certain light feel to them, they are very precise and track very well and because of the power to weight ratio they pull thru any maneuver you can put them through.
I felt the 700 was way to heavy and not nearly as nimble as the plastic models. It has the feel of an old school fly bar type heli. I'm not saying it flew bad, its just not a typical Mikado feel and if that's what your looking for go with the 690sx. I also have a Diabolo 700 and my 690sx is only an inch shorter than it overall, so for those guys who say the 690 is not a true 700 they are right, its a 690 but its only an inch short of a 700 and that's not bad at all. For the money, ease of maintenance and great flight characteristics its a great bang for the buck.

[acidla]

Originally Posted by NLTRex

Hi,

I have a 550SX and a 690SX and have had a 700xxtream. The difference between the 690SX and the 700 are chalk and cheese - very different to fly in my opinion. The 690SX flies just like a bigger 550SX - which is all I ever wanted. Love it.

Now i want a 690sx! How easy/hard is the fitting of the 12s packs in the frame?

[KevinB]

I'm using Pulse 5000mah packs and have no problems loading them in.

KevinB

[tjmarti]

Glacier 45C 5000mAh and Gens Ace 35C 4400mAh fit fine.

[Lada1]

5100maH 30C Gens fit fine.
You can cut(grind) out the gate area to get the same width as is in the whole frame. It gives you about 2-3mm on each side