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10-03-2014, 02:48 PM | #61 (permalink) |
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Did some test flights today - autorotation bailout (SK Gov and Castle ESC) is working good. Trex 500 was the test mule, Fusion 50 is next to get the treatment.
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10-03-2014, 04:43 PM | #62 (permalink) |
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Great to hear!
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05-26-2015, 03:02 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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=] let's keep it up here for a while, great work Omer!
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05-26-2015, 03:57 PM | #64 (permalink) |
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Ok, sorry for a late reply. My flight skills have now out distanced my gov activity. Not to mention the bail out. I either have a violent ramp coming out of a low bog or coming out of TH. One of which shattered my aluminum main gear hub in my Tri 800 when it happened. Or, a slower than optimal spool back up to speed on the three others with my Yge's when the gov is heavily loaded. Since this thread is more about gov recovery in a sense, should I post this here? Or start another thread Omer? I am already running my soft start figures rather aggressively, basically no more soft start. Guys running Yge, HW, and others will also need some help here when pushing the gov hard. On my 600 it may merely be my 300 flight old 65c nano's are nearing the end. Man, are they coming in hot.
Fantastic work on the Castles!
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05-26-2015, 04:40 PM | #65 (permalink) |
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I think we can keep it here
How did you set your YGE's? you have to set them to slow IDLE. if they shut completely they will always SS back. there is no real clasic bailout on them. But it also looks like you have another problem causing bogging? I'm not sure I understood exactly what you experience... I have 1 HW but its on my X3 where I don't auto, but I can bench test it - just don't have the time now...
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05-27-2015, 04:27 AM | #66 (permalink) | |
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On my 800 tri, I was just done doing nose down tocs, and it went into soft spool or sounded almost maybe more like a low voltage spool down. Yet my jeti telemetry still showed good pack voltage? Then suddenly, bang, full non gov'd 100% power, and it sheared my main hub in two. That was fun. So, whining over. On Yge I have to hit a high original spool speed that the drive train can handle to get my gov to engage using my more powerful motors than the less torque versions. When I ran those the gov had no issue engaging during soft spools during the original spool ups. Yet I cannot seem to get the gov engaging consistently with KDE gen 3s at all. They simply don't load up. As there is no other secondary bail out or recovery spool speed available from zero value? So, by using a higher low throttle value on my momentary TH toggle. There is? But I am still not quite clear on how I set up the YGE by programming in a higher speed value (the plane fast thing, or?) 3x in a row for that to happen. This is going to happen on all four of my larger Yge/Yep equipped 600 plus size helis. My HW is on my 420mm stretched Chase, which is now in a bag due to a real stupid moment. And no I didn't crash it per se. I also need to setup bail outs on six helis at our field for the guys who are running Skookums. Now they don't have the option of having separate Th toggles like I have. So, instead of having true zero throttle points on theirs. I will have to add in more low value till the motors kick, then back them off a click or two? Or, as soon as they come out of Th, the motors are set at a higher value and instantly start spooling? So mistro, let Merlin's Skookum dark magic begin. Your ignorant yet willing student is listening......
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for the hub shredding - that is why YGE says they want you to keep low idle for bailout and not shut down, but I really think they could find a better solution...For you - probably lower high ramp. Quote:
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check here, from 9:20:
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Btw, it is 2:45am over here, what the heck are you doing up this time of the night? Oops, disregard that. I forgot you are on Israel time.
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05-27-2015, 04:47 AM | #69 (permalink) |
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1 - Edited: see the rest above
2- Why the heck do you have an Ultimate on a 600??? 3 - You missed where I live if you ask me about the time...here its 12:49Pm
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05-27-2015, 04:58 AM | #70 (permalink) |
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I also ran a Kde gen 3 in there at one time just playing around. I may stuff back in my Scorp 4025-630. It is all about what motors I do have and hitting a good gear ratio with the available gear and lowest pinion for the heli. And, I am a wild man?
I honestly found on 12s the Ultimate only took off about 15 sec's max off my 5:30 flight times as I was simply not working it as hard as the Scorp doing the same routine. But the Kde pulled amps just looking at it and was just a waste in there. It didn't even know it was running with mere 630s in place.
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09-24-2016, 08:33 PM | #71 (permalink) |
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Ive followed all the steps a few times and am getting some inconsitant results. It seems at best I can get it to work but only on the second time I engage TH. But sometimes on subsequent trials I just get a slow start no matter what.
For example. Start in normal let the gov take over. Idle up Hit TH and let motor stop Disengage TH (motor slow starts) Engage TH again Disengage (motor quick starts) Unplug battery and try the whole process again and all I will get in soft starts. Any ideas? If I keep all settings the same and disengage SK gov the quick start works as expected.... but then I dont have a gov...
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09-25-2016, 07:43 PM | #72 (permalink) |
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I got it working by lowering the CC spool up speed to 2 instead of 6. But not my spool up takes about 30 seconds!
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09-26-2016, 05:15 AM | #73 (permalink) |
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Well obviously there is something wrong in your setting (as very few didn't manage to get it to work), but you provide too little info for us to help.
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09-26-2016, 05:55 AM | #74 (permalink) | |
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It seemed that A Viking had a similar issue on the bench. Just wondering if that sorted it self out with blades or if something was changed.
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09-26-2016, 01:14 PM | #75 (permalink) |
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If it works on the bench its usually a good sign it will work.
If it doesn't it means nothing. Fly test it.
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10-20-2016, 04:26 PM | #76 (permalink) |
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Just wanted to hop in here and say thanks again for your superb help. I re read your gov input again and it rang the bell even louder now bringing sense to a very confusing issue. Each time I read your stuff as time goes on, I begin understanding it at a deeper level. You rock bro!
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10-21-2016, 12:57 AM | #77 (permalink) |
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Thanks man
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