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Lee2782 · 07-04-2012, 05:21 PM

Hi all I’m looking into converting my 500 ESP FB to a FBL machine!! After flying my new 500Pro it was clear to me that FBL is the ONLY way to go I love it

! I have the main rotor housing (H50148) a 3GX unit, PRO Metal Main Rotor Holder Arm (H50152)
I just need the 500PRO Metal Main Rotor Holder (H50150). I also have a 500PRO Main Shaft (the one with fixed collar H50156) is the correct one to use? Or do I need 500FL Main Shaft (H50133)

Deet · 07-04-2012, 06:44 PM

With that head you use the standard ESP main shaft

Lee2782 · 07-04-2012, 07:28 PM

The standard 500 ESP FB shaft (H50086)?

Deet · 07-04-2012, 09:51 PM

Steemo · 07-05-2012, 04:05 AM

I haven't tested this so you will know better Deet

The DFC upgrade is compatible with 500e, esp and pro (requires grips and collar shims for e and esp)

So one would assume the collar to bottom jesus bolt length on all those helis are basically the same.

If so why could you not use the pro main shaft in the ESP if converting to FBL using the EFL Pro head?

Deet · 07-05-2012, 06:58 PM

because the old collar is a better system

shims suck, but its a lot cheaper to build the kit that way, so Align gets to make more $$$

DesJardins · 07-05-2012, 07:40 PM

I like the solid machined collar better
It's simply preference...

Steemo · 07-05-2012, 09:17 PM

I can appreciate the benefits of using the standard E/ESP shaft, especial.ly if you have a metal swash ARB and want to remove the main shaft. With Pro and DFC shafts (fixed collar) you need to pull the swash out with the shaft. which is a pain if you cant bent the ARB back (when using metal one not plastic)

Deet · 07-06-2012, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesJardins

I like the solid machined collar better
It's simply preference...

shims will always compromise the bearing performance

DesJardins · 07-06-2012, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deet

shims will always compromise the bearing performance

I guess there have been tests on this to show the one shim I am using will blow out my bearing quicker than the adjustable collar only?

I still have a personal preference where I enjoy the one piece main shaft & might be the minority on that

07-04-2012, 05:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lee2782 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2011	Which main shaft to use for a FBL conversion Hi all I’m looking into converting my 500 ESP FB to a FBL machine!! After flying my new 500Pro it was clear to me that FBL is the ONLY way to go I love it! I have the main rotor housing (H50148) a 3GX unit, PRO Metal Main Rotor Holder Arm (H50152) I just need the 500PRO Metal Main Rotor Holder (H50150). I also have a 500PRO Main Shaft (the one with fixed collar H50156) is the correct one to use? Or do I need 500FL Main Shaft (H50133) __________________ Revolectrix Ambassador Revolectrix.com 10% Discount All Products Code LEESS17

07-04-2012, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Deet Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009	With that head you use the standard ESP main shaft __________________ Dave Goblin 500, Vbar, BLS153, BLS251, Kontronic Jive & Piro MutliWiiCopter Scarab Stealth Armour,Scarab Stealth Reconn V3, Scarab TriiKopta, Scarab Octa, Scarab Vampire

07-04-2012, 07:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lee2782 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2011	The standard 500 ESP FB shaft (H50086)? __________________ Revolectrix Ambassador Revolectrix.com 10% Discount All Products Code LEESS17

07-04-2012, 09:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Deet Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009	yes __________________ Dave Goblin 500, Vbar, BLS153, BLS251, Kontronic Jive & Piro MutliWiiCopter Scarab Stealth Armour,Scarab Stealth Reconn V3, Scarab TriiKopta, Scarab Octa, Scarab Vampire

07-05-2012, 04:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
Steemo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2011	I haven't tested this so you will know better Deet The DFC upgrade is compatible with 500e, esp and pro (requires grips and collar shims for e and esp) So one would assume the collar to bottom jesus bolt length on all those helis are basically the same. If so why could you not use the pro main shaft in the ESP if converting to FBL using the EFL Pro head? __________________ T-Rex 700E Pro DFC HV Brain \| T-Rex 600E Pro DFC V-Bar Silverline 5.3 Pro \|T-Rex 500 DFC Pro mini V-Bar T-Rex 450L Dominator \| JR DSX9 9503 Mode 2

07-05-2012, 06:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Deet Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2009	because the old collar is a better system shims suck, but its a lot cheaper to build the kit that way, so Align gets to make more $$$ __________________ Dave Goblin 500, Vbar, BLS153, BLS251, Kontronic Jive & Piro MutliWiiCopter Scarab Stealth Armour,Scarab Stealth Reconn V3, Scarab TriiKopta, Scarab Octa, Scarab Vampire

07-05-2012, 07:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
DesJardins Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011	I like the solid machined collar better It's simply preference... __________________ Blade 450X & Blade mCPX BL Spektrum AR7200BX ProgressiveRC's "The Neutrino Ticket"

07-05-2012, 09:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Steemo Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2011	I can appreciate the benefits of using the standard E/ESP shaft, especial.ly if you have a metal swash ARB and want to remove the main shaft. With Pro and DFC shafts (fixed collar) you need to pull the swash out with the shaft. which is a pain if you cant bent the ARB back (when using metal one not plastic) __________________ T-Rex 700E Pro DFC HV Brain \| T-Rex 600E Pro DFC V-Bar Silverline 5.3 Pro \|T-Rex 500 DFC Pro mini V-Bar T-Rex 450L Dominator \| JR DSX9 9503 Mode 2

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