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Old 10-17-2012, 12:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Just finished the build on mine...

JR 8717 cyclics
Futaba BLS251 tail
Blueline Vbar 5.3 pro
CC 160HV / Vbar gov (v4.02)
GMauro wound Scorpion 4035
WR Herc super BEC
Radix 710 v2
Radix 105 tails

Maiden should happen this weekend... can't wait!
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Awesome setup Brian except you need a Kosmik , congrats buddy
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:28 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Congrats Brian on your build and your upcoming maiden!! Nice flying with you guys last weekend.

These are really beautiful heli's, I'm getting really tempted.

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Old 10-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hmmm, did we brain wash you Ted
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I think so!!!

I'm starting to think how I can use some of my older components and sell a heli.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I know it gets boring for some but just would like to here some thoughts on my setup.

I playing a little on the safe site with this one, got almost the same setup on my TDR and works superb.

Minicopter Diabolo;

Heli jive/ power jive
Scorpion 4525 ultimate 18T pinion
Futaba BLS 452 / 251
Mikado mini vbar
Rail 696 main/ 105 tail blades
Futaba r6203sb
Some 45c 5000mah lipo...
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:03 PM   #27 (permalink)
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HeliJive Mode 4, BEC @ 5.6V
4525 Ultimate
TP 4400 65/45C made into "stick" packs
Futaba BLS 253/251
RT 710 SG Mains
Radix 110mm Tails
Insane Canopy with Shawn's handle on it....

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Old 12-17-2012, 09:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Minicopter Diabolo:

Align MX 700-510KV
Kontronik Power Jive 120 HV
HeliCommand HC3-SX
Torq-9180 HV Cyclics x 3
Torq-9188 HV Tail x1
Maverikk VST G5 710's
2S Lipo Unregulated
JR/Spektrum Sats.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:55 PM   #29 (permalink)
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1 x Kontronic Kosmik 200 ESC
1 x Kontronic Pyro 700-52L Motor
3 x Outrage Torq 9180 Cyclics
1 x Outrage Torq 9188 Tail
1 x MSH Brain FBL
2 x Spektrum DSMX Satellites
1 x Rail 716 Mains
1 x Rail 106 Tails
4 x Revolectrix 12S 60C 5000mah Packs

Also have to try:
Edge 713 SE Mains
Radix V2 710 Mains
SpinBlades 700 Matt Black Mains
NHP 105 Tails
Edge 105 SE Tails
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:24 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Gyro: HC3-SX
Motor: Pyro 700-52
Cyclic Servos: Torq BL9180
Tail Servo: Torq BL9188
Batts: 12S Gens Ace 5000mah
ESC: CC120
Rx: Futaba R6202SBw

Will probably change to a Jeti Mezon once they are available.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The second one...

Scorpion HK4535 475 kv Gmauro Edition
YGE160 special
MKS 950/980 HBL
Skookum SK540
Desire Power 14S 4200 75C
Radix 690 V2 / Radix 105 V2







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Old 12-25-2012, 08:33 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Where did you get the carbon boom?
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Every carbon boom I have tried caused nothing but resonance, too much flex.
Maybe this one is thick wall?


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Old 12-26-2012, 02:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
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This is a pro carbon tailboom...cost a lot of money but ultra stiff and strong.
Procarbon.de makes high quality carbon.
I know it is too much but it lookes so f awesome.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:10 AM   #35 (permalink)
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We have tested exactly this boom and it was very dangerous. The production quality of the boom is superb, absolutely no question about that, but a carbon boom does not fit to the Diabolo. During spooling up in flight from 1500 to 1900 there was a dangerous resonance anywhere between. The frame of the Diabolo is simply too stiff for a carbon boom and the amplitude from the sudden resonance is then too high. So be cautious if you will try that and keep your finger on the idle up switch to come quickly down again with the headspeed.

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Old 12-26-2012, 07:08 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I have same result with carbon boom on JR Vibe 50, and 700E, resonance. Nick Maxwell was the one who told me to take it off the Vibe because of flex after he flew it.


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Old 12-26-2012, 08:37 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Thanks Gerd. I dont want to risk my heli so will take it off and maiden it coming days with standard tailboom.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:16 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Another proud owner of a Diabolo, I made the maiden flight today and I really like it more than the other 700 helicopters I have tried.

Set-up:
Kosmik 200 - 7,2V BEC
Scorpion 4035 500KV (Slowflyworld rewind)
BLS 451 cyclic (7,2 V - OK according to Futaba giving a bit more torque and speed)
BLS 256 HV tail
vstabi 5.3
Radix 710
Rockamp 5000 60C

A sort video, a picture and the KOSMIK log follow, it is a lovely helicopter.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww08IUDTSfg[/ame]

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Another proud owner of a Diabolo, I made the maiden flight today and I really like it more than the other 700 helicopters I have tried.

Set-up:
Kosmik 200 - 7,2V BEC
Scorpion 4035 500KV (Slowflyworld rewind)
BLS 451 cyclic (7,2 V - OK according to Futaba giving a bit more torque and speed)
BLS 256 HV tail
vstabi 5.3
Radix 710
Rockamp 5000 60C

A sort video, a picture and the KOSMIK log follow, it is a lovely helicopter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww08IUDTSfg

Carlos
Dang! Think that 4035 is going to overamp the Kosmic 200?
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:26 PM   #40 (permalink)
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The Pyro 800 does not fit so far till I modify the frames, and the Slowflyworld modification of the 4035 should be similar to a 4525 or a 4530. The Kosmik is an overkill, but it makes fun In the Kosmik logs I see 125 Amp peaks, but I doubt that even my connectors can stand more current.

What I do not like are the rpm variations in the Kosmik log, will try if the Pyro 800 improves them.
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