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heliface · 08-10-2013, 06:59 PM

Hi,

So i had some bad crashes today that were made about 11ty times worse by the throttle hold failing to engage. What usually happens is i see the nano is heading for a tree, or the ground and I hit throttle hold. But instead of the motor cutting out, the motor continues to run and sends the heli full force into the ground. It then flips around on the ground for a few seconds before finally cutting out, probably doing even more damage in the process.

I've read somewhere that lvc might have something to do with this behavior, but it's been happening to me at the beginning of flights as well as the end, and with about a dozen different batteries that were bought at different times.

I've also noticed this behavior with the original msr back in the day. Looks like it's a horizon hobby problem that spans all HH products?

GoatRider · 08-10-2013, 08:47 PM

Are you using the stock transmitter? I've heard the TH is pretty dodgy on that.

LVC, once it's started, ignores the throttle channel and just slowly ramps down the power. If you don't manage to land nicely during that, it's going to chicken dance and there's nothing you can do about it. Except for set a timer and never let it get to LVC, it's bad for the batteries anyways to let them get that low.

pixeltim · 08-10-2013, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoatRider

Are you using the stock transmitter? I've heard the TH is pretty dodgy on that.

LVC, once it's started, ignores the throttle channel and just slowly ramps down the power. If you don't manage to land nicely during that, it's going to chicken dance and there's nothing you can do about it. Except for set a timer and never let it get to LVC, it's bad for the batteries anyways to let them get that low.

+1

65L88 · 08-10-2013, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoatRider

Are you using the stock transmitter? I've heard the TH is pretty dodgy on that.

LVC, once it's started, ignores the throttle channel and just slowly ramps down the power. If you don't manage to land nicely during that, it's going to chicken dance and there's nothing you can do about it. Except for set a timer and never let it get to LVC, it's bad for the batteries anyways to let them get that low.

Another +1 to the above. And if you have other than the stock transmitter (ie, dx6i, dx7, etc), I'd check my throttle hold settings first, and if all is well, try a rebind.

vtown nick · 08-11-2013, 12:01 AM

Omg I started out with the DX4e and the throttle hold is a joke on that!

The amount of parts you will replace due to the th not working will justify a DX6i

heliface · 08-11-2013, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtown nick

Omg I started out with the DX4e and the throttle hold is a joke on that!

The amount of parts you will replace due to the th not working will justify a DX6i

I am indeed using the stock tx. So you've experienced similiar behavior where pushing the th button seems to have no effect?

gstoneberg · 08-11-2013, 06:23 AM

As I recall, TH doesn't take effect until the button is released on the dx4e. I had a very hard time remembering to release the button in the panic of the impending crash. Pushing it was no problem. The dx6i is much better and really helped my flying.

George

vtown nick · 08-11-2013, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heliface

I am indeed using the stock tx. So you've experienced similiar behavior where pushing the th button seems to have no effect?

Correct, even when I would press and release most of the time it wouldn't work. This tx doesn't have any expo either so when you do flips its all over the place. It's truly night and day a different heli with a computer tx. Plus you can set a timer so you don't kill your lipos

GoatRider · 08-11-2013, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtown nick

This tx doesn't have any expo either so when you do flips its all over the place.

Actually the DX4e has a mode where you can give it a fixed amount of expo, 25% I think. The directions aren't in the DX4e manual though, they're hidden in the HyperTaxi manual, on page 10:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/pdf/EFLU4780-Manual-EN.pdf

vtown nick · 08-11-2013, 02:13 PM

Nice find!

seth1846 · 08-18-2013, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoatRider

Actually the DX4e has a mode where you can give it a fixed amount of expo, 25% I think. The directions aren't in the DX4e manual though, they're hidden in the HyperTaxi manual, on page 10:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/pdf/EFLU4780-Manual-EN.pdf

I've never used that radio but adding but not describing a crucial feature of a radio is just plain wrong...... Lol

Fragtastic Reef · 08-19-2013, 07:13 PM

It may not be the TX at all, on my first Nano CPx the main board went bad after only a few flights and had it replaced. After about 2-3 minutes of flight it was still have power but just fall to the ground and main blades would still be going even with TH engaged. Might want to see if the board on yours is bad....

08-10-2013, 06:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
heliface Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010	Throttle hold unreliable on the Nano CP X? Hi, So i had some bad crashes today that were made about 11ty times worse by the throttle hold failing to engage. What usually happens is i see the nano is heading for a tree, or the ground and I hit throttle hold. But instead of the motor cutting out, the motor continues to run and sends the heli full force into the ground. It then flips around on the ground for a few seconds before finally cutting out, probably doing even more damage in the process. I've read somewhere that lvc might have something to do with this behavior, but it's been happening to me at the beginning of flights as well as the end, and with about a dozen different batteries that were bought at different times. I've also noticed this behavior with the original msr back in the day. Looks like it's a horizon hobby problem that spans all HH products?

08-10-2013, 08:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
GoatRider Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2013	Are you using the stock transmitter? I've heard the TH is pretty dodgy on that. LVC, once it's started, ignores the throttle channel and just slowly ramps down the power. If you don't manage to land nicely during that, it's going to chicken dance and there's nothing you can do about it. Except for set a timer and never let it get to LVC, it's bad for the batteries anyways to let them get that low. __________________ - Benton Jackson, Maple Grove MN Roswell Flyer (retired), Concept EP (retired), Eco 8 (retired), WLToys V929 & V202, Nano CPx, Nano CPx mild BL, Nano QX, mCX2, 130x

08-11-2013, 12:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
vtown nick Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2013	Omg I started out with the DX4e and the throttle hold is a joke on that! The amount of parts you will replace due to the th not working will justify a DX6i __________________ Team MSH USA - Cyclone Blades MSH Prôtos 380 Brain 2 MSH Prôtos Max V2 Brain

08-11-2013, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
vtown nick Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2013	Nice find! __________________ Team MSH USA - Cyclone Blades MSH Prôtos 380 Brain 2 MSH Prôtos Max V2 Brain

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08-11-2013, 06:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
gstoneberg Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2013	As I recall, TH doesn't take effect until the button is released on the dx4e. I had a very hard time remembering to release the button in the panic of the impending crash. Pushing it was no problem. The dx6i is much better and really helped my flying. George

08-19-2013, 07:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fragtastic Reef Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2013	It may not be the TX at all, on my first Nano CPx the main board went bad after only a few flights and had it replaced. After about 2-3 minutes of flight it was still have power but just fall to the ground and main blades would still be going even with TH engaged. Might want to see if the board on yours is bad....

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