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02-17-2017, 12:21 PM | #61 (permalink) |
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Snakebite: I'm sure what you described had a big role in what happened. I wish I had it on video for everyone to evaluate. Oh well. Lesson learned.
TimBaconHeli: I've been wondering about the throttle capabilities of the 200 srx. I'm hoping it's plenty capable for the time being, but let me ask so that I understand: What would be best for an initial bump in performance -- new blades (7 or 8%), or upping the motor speed? This thing seems to chew through the batteries as it is. I'm betting I don't even get a full 6 mins out of them...wont upping the motor speed for more lift drain the battery faster than just changing to blades that produce more lift? And what about a main gear that's a step up? I think stock is 11, I hear others stepping up to 12, 13 or even 14. Does that make the blades spin faster yet allow the motor to spin the same speed (respectively speaking over the 11 main gear)? I think I worded that terribly, but you probably know what I'm trying to ask... |
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02-17-2017, 12:44 PM | #62 (permalink) |
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Turning up the motor is a matter of changing settings, do that first...then evaluate if you wanna pour money into it or save towards a cp heli
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02-17-2017, 01:27 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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You can add a little power to the motor through the advanced settings, but it is not such a huge jump. The motor in the 200SRX is the same motor in the new 200s and the 230s. Not super powerful, but it is pretty reliable. It is not the weak link in the heli, however.
Extreme used to make 8 degree blades for it, but not sure how easily they are to find now. I just gave a set a few weeks ago. I will get those parts out to you possibly tomorrow. If not, early next week. I saw a few main gears, spare boom, links, blade grips and maybe a few other things. Nothing major.
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02-17-2017, 02:05 PM | #64 (permalink) |
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Honestly, any issues brought on by increasing the motor power like wearing out things quicker is totally shadowed by how much better the heli flies and the increased ability to power out of mishaps like getting a little too close to the ground. I can say from experience though if your hamfisted with the throttle the esc can be unhappy and go into protect mode. That means itll fall put of the sky unfortunately, so just be careful hammerimg the throttle and staying too deep in it for too long punching out, especially when its hot.
Learned that lesson the hard way. Very fun little heli to fly, and i know i said wind is bad, but that being said after a few months of good practice you can learn to fly it in moderate wind, just takes practice. At first though, id avoid windy days. Tim |
02-17-2017, 02:46 PM | #65 (permalink) |
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200 SRX I believe is fixed pitch.. If you want to fly outside I'd fix it up and sell it and buy something a bit larger and with collective pitch. Even the best fixed pitch heli's suck at flying in wind. Collective pitch heli's manage and handle in winds a lot better. Fly the 200 SRX indoors in a large gym and get a Blade 230S or a similar collective pitch machine for outdoor flying.
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02-17-2017, 06:14 PM | #66 (permalink) |
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The 200srx and 230s can use the same servos and do use a variation of the same flight controller.
So... any 230s servos will work to replace the broken one, but being cyclic servos, they should probably match... grab all three and replace all of them. Now. The only possible downside of the V911 is that after it, any heli you fly will be made of eggshells. That is just how stuff works. The 200srx is good, but you need it in intermediate or full on mode. Keep in mind, full bore, it can do a loop. (100 feet high maybe, but it can loop) Just take it slow. If you had done the research, you'd likely be on the same TX you got, and in a 230S. It's likely the next heli you'd want as its CP. If your Blade experience left you feeling shafted, you should grab an XK K110. CP, stable, and cut from the same cloth as a V911. (But brushless main motor, careless brushed tail.) it's about $110 with a Futaba compatible TX. |
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Also, in advanced mode you can loop in about 20-25ft altitude. Unlike a normal FP heli the SRX servo movements are near that of a CP, if not the same. Only thing it really lacks is the 3rd servo and CP. Maybe you never owned one?
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I think I should just use this 200 srx as my trainer / beater...maybe not worry so much about fixing it up or making it high performing. I'll get the most I can out of it and then start looking to the next model... |
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02-18-2017, 03:26 PM | #72 (permalink) |
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Well, my parts came in Friday and I spent an hour this morning getting everything swapped out and back to 100%. Like a noob, I wasn't prepared with new zip ties *facepalm*. Necessity is the mother of invention, so I found a way to re-use the zip ties that came with it.
It was dead calm at my house, so I actually went outside and practiced hovering in my driveway for about five mins. Feels good to have a working heli... So, a question: how important is it to re-lube the servo gears? On one servo, I only had to swap the outer-most gear, on the other, I swapped two. They seem to have white lithium grease on them or something. I don't have any, so I just put them back together and moved on. They seem to be working fine. Should I get some grease to do it the right way next time? |
02-19-2017, 09:45 AM | #73 (permalink) |
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I personally recommend putting down the 200 for about 6 months & getting a sim & micro heli such as the Blade Nano (or XK K110, K120 as I hear those are even better). Super easy to fix & are nearly indestructible if you fly them over a nice grassy area. You're going to be crashing a lot, so for awhile just get something that's inexpensive, fast to fix & not going to make you sick of rebuilding.
Definitely don't go bigger. That was the worst advice I ever took....
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02-19-2017, 02:06 PM | #74 (permalink) |
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I got the parts out to you yesterday. Not much.
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Guess I learned not to take my eyes off a moving heli. Duh, right? I think I just panicked because I wasn't expecting of all those little kids (6 and under) to come running in there. I did a few hover tests in my garage and the tail wags a bit more than I remember it doing before. Found there was some up and down play in the main gear. I fixed that by moving the top collar down and will test fly it again in my garage in a bit. So, yeah the point being that I should probably get something smaller and get in a lot of SIM time before taking this thing out for more than hover practice... |
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02-19-2017, 07:30 PM | #78 (permalink) |
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+10 on the sim practice. Any heli of this size or bigger will need fixing pretty much every time you crash it - as you are discovering. So you really have two options:-
1. Learn to accept crashing and fixing time/cost or 2. Learn to fly without crashing with loads of regular structured sim practice A third option is to get an almost indestructible sub-micro CP heli or a micro quad and learn on that until you stop crashing. Then get back to the 200 SRX and enjoy! It may only take a month or so on the sim to build the necessary skills. My very first heli was a Blade 130X Red Bull, which is an extremely fragile scale CP model! I didn't dare to fly it for nearly 2 months while I learned on the sim and a nano quad. But when I eventually got round to giving it a try I was pleasantly surprised and haven't crashed that heli to this day. Had I flown it from day 1 it would have been a disaster for sure and I probably would have given up as it's a total pain to work on.
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03-26-2017, 01:49 AM | #79 (permalink) |
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Check it out
I think you should google HiSky HCP100S , finish orientations with what you have then make the plunge to CP.
this heli is Tough!!! & double brushless. It is an advanced helli but with a little extra expo and DR mine flies better than my nano CPS. Check it out.... Best part? Parts are dirt cheap... I'm so glad I got one... Just getting comfortable with forward flips and quick bouts of inverted. Regards, Dan |
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