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Old 03-06-2012, 04:07 PM   #81 (permalink)
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No worries, I had some issues with my last batch of C05's, sent 8 of them back yesterday for replacement, all 8 had at least 1 bad bearing, probably from retaining compound getting into them during assembly. I would rather be out of them for a while than ship bad/questionable motors. Makes you wonder what your getting from other vendors that dont check them out before shipping them!

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Old 03-06-2012, 04:39 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I think that is why some people claim C05 are weak.
Before I try them myself, my impression is that the C05/M5 are a little
more than stock, but has some distance compare to HP05 in terms of power.

I found my M5 + Walkera 10A ESC on the V2 is very comparable to my
old HP05 on V1.

I actually fly the M5 one more often now because it is lighter and the V2 does
not have the tail drift back issue. It also seems to climb faster than the HP05.
Any way, maybe my HP05 is weak. I am going to get a HP05S from you
just to compare if the newer HP05 are more powerful.

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No worries, I had some issues with my last batch of C05's, sent 8 of them back yesterday for replacement, all 8 had at least 1 bad bearing, probably from retaining compound getting into them during assembly. I would rather be out of them for a while than ship bad/questionable motors. Makes you wonder what your getting from other vendors that dont check them out before shipping them!

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Old 03-06-2012, 09:22 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Thanks a bunch for the tip on the Deans connectors Dylan!
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:33 AM   #84 (permalink)
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I find this hard to believe untill I see a video of this in actual motion. Your saying connect the white signal wire to power, where does the ESC get a pulse signal from?

Dylan knows what he is talking about, dont doubt his info for one second
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:32 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Yep I have run the LTC on the main on the V1 board with no converter too (to the gate on the main motor FET's) and its linear enough for me
Hi.

I also got wk-wst-10A-LTC. I tried as you said. white wire to gate of main FET.
I have V1 3.9 and motor is C05M 11500KV.
Once, it ran OK slow speed to high speed. Then after install the motor to frame, the motor stutters at low speed. Also, ESC get's hot.
Any idea?

Thank you so much.

EDIT:
I fixed it. The bolts on the motor was touching coil inside. I put washers and it runs great.
I am curious about how it should be linear to throttle input.
I could not fly in normal mode due to rpm fluctuation. It seems like there is big rpm difference between 90% and 100%. So. it's quite linear from 0% to 80% or so. But after 80% rpm suddenly increase a lot causing rapid climb.
Anyway, I still like it so much compare to B motor.

Thanks.
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:21 PM   #86 (permalink)
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My brushless stuff jut came in the mail today!!! I have to go out to the bars tonight but I'll do a full write up tomorrow. I'm so excited, my helicopter is always down for repairs...
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:43 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Arghh!! I stripped the motor when I was trying to fit it to the frame. Also when I test run it, TH doesn't work, my servos are crazy, and the tail is not synchronized. I'm so frustrated!
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Hi guys. I have from old 4g3 wk-wst-10A-LT esc, c05m and mcpx with V2 board. From what point on the board i need pick signal for this esc ? Will it work without converter ?
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:12 PM   #89 (permalink)
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I dont think the LT will work on the V2 board, only the V1.

SEE:
"The V1 board needs the LT or LTC Walkera ESC (Negative PWM input) tied to the main motor FET gate on the 3n1.

The V2 board needs the L Walkera ESC (Positive PPM input) either plugged into the main motor output or to the small resistor on the back of the board.

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I have a picture of how the L is wired in post 68, you could still try it with the LT.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:21 PM   #90 (permalink)
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I was at the LHS today and they had a Walkera WS-WST-10A-L ESC in stock so I picked it up. I installed it to my v2 and it works great. Not only did I eliminate the convertor and save a gram or two, it also completely eliminated the cogging issue I was having with the AEO 5 amp ESC.
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:52 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Right, that is what I have on ALL of my birds now. Works very well with M5 and HP05s.
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I was at the LHS today and they had a Walkera WS-WST-10A-L ESC in stock so I picked it up. I installed it to my v2 and it works great. Not only did I eliminate the convertor and save a gram or two, it also completely eliminated the cogging issue I was having with the AEO 5 amp ESC.
What motor are you using? Where did you connect the white signal wire?
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What motor are you using? Where did you connect the white signal wire?
I am using an AEO C05 and the white signal wire is soldered to the positive side of the small resistor on the back side of the 3 in 1 board.
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Old 03-17-2012, 05:04 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Is the walkera esc and the helimax esc the same? Can the Helimax esc be used without a converter?
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Right, that is what I have on ALL of my birds now. Works very well with M5 and HP05s.
Do you know where I can find instructions on programing the ESC or should I even bother with it? The motor seems to be running fine and there is absolutely no cogging on startup.

Also, I noticed that when I plug in the battery, the 3 in 1 initializes and I here a couple of beeps from the ESC, but then I have to move the throttle up maybe around 20% for the ESC to activate and spin up the motor. Is this normal?
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:05 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Will the Spin 16.3k motor work with this ESC?
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As far as I know, this ESC can't be programed.
This ESC can detect PPM or PWM signal and automatically adapt to it.
So the ESC need to see the throttle signal then determine which mode it should
operate it on. What you see is normal, that is the ESC detect the motor
signal and finish the second stage of the arming.

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Do you know where I can find instructions on programing the ESC or should I even bother with it? The motor seems to be running fine and there is absolutely no cogging on startup.

Also, I noticed that when I plug in the battery, the 3 in 1 initializes and I here a couple of beeps from the ESC, but then I have to move the throttle up maybe around 20% for the ESC to activate and spin up the motor. Is this normal?
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:19 PM   #98 (permalink)
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I don't have Spin motor otherwise I would love to test it for you.

If I have to bet, I bet Spin motor will work just fine with it. But that
is just pure guess. Any one want to test it out?

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Will the Spin 16.3k motor work with this ESC?
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im only a few parts short of finding out
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As far as I know, this ESC can't be programed.
This ESC can detect PPM or PWM signal and automatically adapt to it.
So the ESC need to see the throttle signal then determine which mode it should
operate it on. What you see is normal, that is the ESC detect the motor
signal and finish the second stage of the arming.
Thanks Coredump.
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