Where's the big announcement?

[exfokkerflyer]

Thank you sir, hope you have a good trip back home! Will be looking forward to reading your plans for Compass.

Tom M

[allen james]

Great to hear Sebastian. Safe travels.

[cyclo]

Originally Posted by allen james

Great to hear Sebastian. Safe travels.

+1. Thanks for the update Sebastian. Nice to see the Chronos give the dedicated speed machines a run for their money on the IRCHA speed cup. Just goes to show how sound the new Chronos head and drivetrain is.

[MrEmail]

This weekend i flown my chronos again and it fly's really good. It is only getting heavy in autos but probably it is just me. I know I could do them better. Overall it's a great flying machine which is super stable and tracks really well. They only problem is parts. Goblin, Align and Logo parts are all over the place. Compass unfortunately not.

[cyclo]

Originally Posted by Lighty

But way too heavy at nearly 5.8kg. And 2:30 Min igbt time lol

I just saw the video, 2:25 min flight time and the overspeed is meh... Actually all I heard was the shudder from the tail rotor. Nowhere as impressive as the over speeds on the Chronos... My opinion of course. I also downloaded and read the manual of the Max... No counter-bearing for the motor shaft? The CF supporting the main shaft bearings also seems just adequate... Nowhere near as beefy as those on the Chronos.

EDIT: I now see that the counter-bearing is in fact on top of the belt pulley.

[Lighty]

I was about to get one but, the flight with Dario at IRCHA there was frequent blade flutter it just didn't look impressive. The flight time on that vid is 2:00min, are you kidding me!

I could pull some vids out with the 7hv and any other heli and destroy the Protos in power and agility at 2400 rpm.

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by Lighty

I was about to get one but, the flight with Dario at IRCHA there was frequent blade flutter it just didn't look impressive. The flight time on that vid is 2:00min, are you kidding me!

I could pull some vids out with the 7hv and any other heli and destroy the Protos in power and agility at 2400 rpm.

Originally Posted by cyclo

I just saw the video, 2:25 min flight time and the overspeed is meh... Actually all I heard was the shudder from the tail rotor. Nowhere as impressive as the over speeds on the Chronos... My opinion of course. I also downloaded and read the manual of the Max... No counter-bearing for the motor shaft? The CF supporting the main shaft bearings also seems just adequate... Nowhere near as beefy as those on the Chronos.

EDIT: I now see that the counter-bearing is in fact on top of the belt pulley.

Apologize in advanced for sticking my head in here. I was asked to comment. So I am.

No need to bash guys. Dario is a specialist. He runs 2450 RPM at 100% throttle with the top performing Xnova motors. He flys about 2:30 with that setup.

It has a counter bearing. With support for 6 or 8mm shafts.

Main shaft is thrusted to extend radial bearing life.

The feathering shaft is 10mm, main shaft is 12mm. It supports full blown 800mm setups. It has a giant sprag owb in the main gear.

Dario's wag? It's just a gain adjustment. Watch the videos on my or other YouTube channels. Properly tuned you don't get a wag at up to 4000rpm over speeds.

Flight time - well I have owned about 8 different 700's. All of them at 2150 (trex, g700, Rush, 700x, etc) I get about 3:10 with my flight style. We hav guys running 2000 for 5m. Another guy running 1500 with 716 for 8m. The tail hold is still impressive..

Auw is between 12.2 and 12.9 depending on setup. Not an 11lb helicopter since it has extremely robust 800 mechanics. There are ways to cut another 200-300g. Stay tuned. (-:

Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion. But without actually trying the thing it's kind of confusing to post bashing comments without investigating it.

My 2c.

On topic, the Chronos flown my the team at IRCHA looked freaking awesome. Some incredible flights and we all loved watching them. I've owned a 6hvu and loved it. I think the Chronos is a great helicopter (also). One of the few that can really hold up to abuse for hundreds of flights.

[MrEmail]

Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

Apologize in advanced for sticking my head in here. I was asked to comment. So I am.

No need to bash guys. Dario is a specialist. He runs 2450 RPM at 100% throttle with the top performing Xnova motors. He flys about 2:30 with that setup.

It has a counter bearing. With support for 6 or 8mm shafts.

Main shaft is thrusted to extend radial bearing life.

The feathering shaft is 10mm, main shaft is 12mm. It supports full blown 800mm setups. It has a giant sprag owb in the main gear.

Dario's wag? It's just a gain adjustment. Watch the videos on my or other YouTube channels. Properly tuned you don't get a wag at up to 4000rpm over speeds.

Flight time - well I have owned about 8 different 700's. All of them at 2150 (trex, g700, Rush, 700x, etc) I get about 3:10 with my flight style. We hav guys running 2000 for 5m. Another guy running 1500 with 716 for 8m. The tail hold is still impressive..

Auw is between 12.2 and 12.9 depending on setup. Not an 11lb helicopter since it has extremely robust 800 mechanics. There are ways to cut another 200-300g. Stay tuned. (-:

Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion. But without actually trying the thing it's kind of confusing to post bashing comments without investigating it.

My 2c.

On topic, the Chronos flown my the team at IRCHA looked freaking awesome. Some incredible flights and we all loved watching them. I've owned a 6hvu and loved it. I think the Chronos is a great helicopter (also). One of the few that can really hold up to abuse for hundreds of flights.

Probably the Max v2 will also be a great heli. Since they have learned a lot from the first version in the end its just the end-user choice. There are currently so much good helis to choose from align, compass, protos, mikado's all having there pros and cons

I must say I really like the Chronos only it's quite a heavy bird not such a light discloading as the Logo 690 SX (duh). The protos I don't know never flown it

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by MrEmail

Probably the Max v2 will also be a great heli. Since they have learned a lot from the first version in the end its just the end-user choice. There are currently so much good helis to choose from align, compass, protos, mikado's all having there pros and cons

I must say I really like the Chronos only it's quite a heavy bird not such a light discloading as the Logo 690 SX (duh). The protos I don't know never flown it

Well just my 2c, but all the light helis I've tried turn into utter garbage in my hands. Too many compromises for my taste.

[Scott Bowersox]

Alex, it was good to see you out flying the V2, glad that is coming together well, looks good. We often shared flight space with MSH during the whole week and great to talk to you and the team and watch you guys fly! Def fun to watch!

[MrEmail]

Well I currently really like the chronos for it's precision and agility. Plus I also like my warp and 6HVU all great helis yes I am a fan lol

[Rob43]

There is room for both of these fine helicopters in our hobby. We need good competing offerings to see models improving. You have to admit, the Protos is a nice new machine with a well received fbl for a great price. I am not unloading my Chronos, but I look forward to seeing my friend's Max V2.

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by Rob43

There is room for both of these fine helicopters in our hobby. We need good competing offerings to see models improving. You have to admit, the Protos is a nice new machine with a well received fbl for a great price. I am not unloading my Chronos, but I look forward to seeing my friend's Max V2.

As it's always been, every company tries to make the best helicopter they can based on their own design DNA.

The Chronos is one of the few IMO that have exceptional engineering, and hold up to the toughest pilots. I was first introduced to how tough the 7HV was when I saw EricB torture one in a way I'd never seen before. Then he went on to Alees only to abandon it because it was unsafe with his style.

Anyway, I hate to see threads dissolve into a bash fest at the expense of one mfg for another. Each mfg builds the best product they can, and then the consumer decides what to buy. Or they buy both.

[cyclo]

Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

As it's always been, every company tries to make the best helicopter they can based on their own design DNA.

The Chronos is one of the few IMO that have exceptional engineering, and hold up to the toughest pilots. I was first introduced to how tough the 7HV was when I saw EricB torture one in a way I'd never seen before. Then he went on to Alees only to abandon it because it was unsafe with his style.

Anyway, I hate to see threads dissolve into a bash fest at the expense of one mfg for another. Each mfg builds the best product they can, and then the consumer decides what to buy. Or they buy both.

Sorry if I came off as bashing but it was just my opinion based on watching and comparing flight videos I have seen of both the Chronos and the MAX v2 on this forum. I mean what is the purpose of this forum if anyone is not able to speak his mind/opinion on something? I seen you speak your mind based on your experiences with the original MAX, SAB, Compass, Align and TT.

I am no noob either... I have built/flown a dozen helis or so albeit from only three brands but more importantly I have spent an inordinate amount of time perusing these forums checking user feedback on helis I am interested in... I feel that entitles me to my own opinion.

Reps will be reps... But one thing that irritates me is when some reps "bash" the Company insinuating that it may not be around in the long run (Seefest for example). IMHO, that is bashing... What is not bashing is comparing flight characteristics based on what one sees in posted videos/pics and giving one's opinion based on what he sees and/or hear on these videos/pics.

[OnTheSnap]

Sounds good. Yes of course say whatever you want. :-) Then as it always is in forums guys that like to talk like me will agree or disagree and try to make another point. Sorry that I used the B word. Wasn't trying to say you didn't have a perfectly legit opinion to give. But I wanted to inject what I know as fact (through my biased eyes anyway).

Anyway, I posted a video of one of my flights. It yields 3:10 or so at 2250. Typical. So my purpose was to clarify that a mad man running a 2450 doesn't mean it isn't just an ordinary heli flight time wise. When setup for the rest of us. It's unfortunate that one factory pilots preferences ends up defining a platform in some guys view of what it is. Guess you really have to be careful with the videos you post to avoid that.

V1 however had extreme tension with the single belt, and I did not like the tradeoffs. V2 fixes all that.

Anyway, I apologize for going of topic. Chronos is a great heli. I want all the mfg in the hobby to succeed and prosper. It's what's best for us as hobbyists. And not all machines are deserving like the Chronos is.

[flyfishsick]

Wow what forum am I in??? thought it was the Compass forum???

[Lighty]

Don't be one bit sorry cyclo, your making a comparison unlike him who is slaggin-off all his previous 7 700.

[cyclo]

Originally Posted by Lighty

Don't be one bit sorry cyclo, your making a comparison unlike him who is slaggin-off all his previous 7 700.

I know... On the other hand you slag all the previous helis you flew including the 6HVU for having a weak gear (I am not so old that I suffer amnesia) and you get a free pass because you are a rep? LOL.

I am open minded however... I will keep an eye out for helis that interest me (yes including the MAX v2). Unlike some, I prefer for models to be field tested for at least 6 months to a year before getting one to see how they handle abuse and crashes.

[OnTheSnap]

Rough crowd. Lol..

[jaofos]

Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

Rough crowd. Lol..

Nothin but respect for you OTS. You're a great pilot, and you put in a lot of time and effort to make this hobby better for us all.