MSH Protos Max V2

[FNFAL]

Amazing, with this simple change, it will make all the difference. Right move MSH!

Before, the costs to impress with the "cleverness" of a single belt design was not worth it.

Birds will crash and this newer layout is still simpler than some other makes mentioned above when repairing.

The amount of belt wrap using those idlers is interesting. Some may prefer a more complex two-staged hybrid gear/belt reduction and forgo the large one-stage pulley.

Personal choice, but I like the simplicity.

[Greg B]

I think I am going to have to have one of these. Looks like a great and simple design.

[dedados]

Did anyone else notice the canopy mounting posts? They look like they have a magnet! I'm thinking canopy without mounting holes! Could make for some very cool sleekness.

[B.Ewing]

They used magnets for the v1 canopy as well. They work extremely well

[OnTheSnap]

Note there is also a 800 conversion kit for the v2 Max. Likely $30-40 to change it into a full blown 800 machine.

The mechanics are robust enough to handle a really extreme 800 setup.

[dedados]

I like your avatar

[Thunder Fighter]

Getting gear ready for this now. I plan on the following setup.

HK4530LE 450kv
Scorpion 160A Opto ESC
14s 4400mah packs
MKS X8 860 cyclic (tail servo still being decided)
2s 2200 Rx pack
Brain FBL
800 stretch kit running 753mm Edge main blades and 116mm rail tails

//Dennis.

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by Thunder Fighter

Getting gear ready for this now. I plan on the following setup.

HK4530LE 450kv
Scorpion 160A Opto ESC
14s 4400mah packs
MKS X8 860 cyclic (tail servo still being decided)
2s 2200 Rx pack
Brain FBL
800 stretch kit running 753mm Edge main blades and 116mm rail tails

//Dennis.

Looks good. Only issue is where to mount the RX pack on a max. Most run it on the bottom of the rear flight pack or strapped to the rear. The 2200 is usually long and skinny. A square thicker pack fits better.

I just run BEC with ultraguard on everything.

[dedados]

Originally Posted by Thunder Fighter

Getting gear ready for this now. I plan on the following setup.

HK4530LE 450kv
Scorpion 160A Opto ESC
14s 4400mah packs
MKS X8 860 cyclic (tail servo still being decided)
2s 2200 Rx pack
Brain FBL
800 stretch kit running 753mm Edge main blades and 116mm rail tails

//Dennis.

For a second I thought that "HK4530LE 450k" was a hobby king motor from the HK I was confused

[Thunder Fighter]

Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

Looks good. Only issue is where to mount the RX pack on a max. Most run it on the bottom of the rear flight pack or strapped to the rear. The 2200 is usually long and skinny. A square thicker pack fits better.

I just run BEC with ultraguard on everything.

I prefer to use 2s Lipo but yes, I was a little worried about where to mount the pack. I have some smaller high C 2s 1850mah and 1300mah square packs but would like to use something bigger on this bird. I will have a look at the V1 airframe they have at the shop and see if I can work out where to fit it.

Originally Posted by dedados

For a second I thought that "HK4530LE 450k" was a hobby king motor from the HK I was confused

Lol. HobbyKing does sell Scorpion motors by the way, just not the Limited Editions..

//Dennis.

[Luigi_tuga]

Finally a proper drivetrain from MSH.
The single belt design never made any sense to me, every time i look at Protos drivetrain my thought was: Fragile.
All the motors from my buddies MP or P500 were coming from flying very hot due to having to run the belt quite tight.
Now it really looks good, with a nicely sized OWB

[jmtyndall]

Originally Posted by OnTheSnap

Looks good. Only issue is where to mount the RX pack on a max. Most run it on the bottom of the rear flight pack or strapped to the rear. The 2200 is usually long and skinny. A square thicker pack fits better.

I just run BEC with ultraguard on everything.

What BEC are you running, and what location? I have a spare BEC pro I could run if rx packs are a no go

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by jmtyndall

What BEC are you running, and what location? I have a spare BEC pro I could run if rx packs are a no go

I run a WR BEC pro with servo power bus in the rear deck. Dario runs a gryphon in he nose under he Esc. Either way is fine.

[jmtyndall]

Looks like a tight fit. Castle is too big?

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by jmtyndall

Looks like a tight fit. Castle is too big?

Castle BEC? It's tiny and fits fine

[jmtyndall]

Just looked it up, the Castle BEC pro is in fact smaller than that WR

[OnTheSnap]

[FailureToFly]

I did a bit of reading last night about this heli (the big Protos max V2 thread).

I gather that this is basically a 700 (or 800) class heli where it's designed to take the most power you can throw at it without failure and with a tail that cannot be stripped or made to fail in holding ability (as it runs a fast tail ratio and you can run 115 blades on it - the tail won't break so it'll be pretty much vice like).

Basically, it is designed to be THE top echelon 3D machine; the best ever made...and it's potentially selling for $699 with the Brain FBL unit (so ~$500 for the airframe)...so it will be one of the cheapest as well.

Some important crash parts costs are going to be reduced, a cheap crash kit will likely be offered, an 800 size upgrade with be a pittance and an upgrade for V1 owners will be very affordable.

Basically, stronger, better, cheaper (nearly half the price of a V1) and way more awesome.

If MSH actually deliver (and I would say that they probably didn't/couldn't with the V1 due to the giant single belt legacy - but they can now with the two belts), they will have one of the most popular large helis on the market.

It's being tested at 2450 rpm with extremely hard 3D by Dario and seems to just lap it up.

Looks like I might be a MSH owner in the future.

[OnTheSnap]

Originally Posted by FailureToFly

I did a bit of reading last night about this heli (the big Protos max V2 thread).

I gather that this is basically a 700 (or 800) class heli where it's designed to take the most power you can throw at it without failure and with a tail that cannot be stripped or made to fail in holding ability (as it runs a fast tail ratio and you can run 115 blades on it - the tail won't break so it'll be pretty much vice like).

Basically, it is designed to be THE top echelon 3D machine; the best ever made...and it's potentially selling for $699 with the Brain FBL unit (so ~$500 for the airframe)...so it will be one of the cheapest as well.

Some important crash parts costs are going to be reduced, a cheap crash kit will likely be offered, an 800 size upgrade with be a pittance and an upgrade for V1 owners will be very affordable.

Basically, stronger, better, cheaper (nearly half the price of a V1) and way more awesome.

If MSH actually deliver (and I would say that they probably didn't/couldn't with the V1 due to the giant single belt legacy - but they can now with the two belts), they will have one of the most popular large helis on the market.

It's being tested at 2450 rpm with extremely hard 3D by Dario and seems to just lap it up.

Looks like I might be a MSH owner in the future.

Obviously I'm biased here. But the intent is that the Max v2 becomes your daily beater. The one you pull out every day and learn/enjoy the hobby. Yet with no compromises. While a "beater" may sound like a negative term. It isn't. A beater is that comfort heli. Where you can be fearless. It's not a shelf queen. But it needs to be extremely tough. Take total abuse. Yet be inexpensive to own and fix. Quick to repair. So the goal is to build a high quality, high end heli, that's a "beater".

A year ago, MSH set out to build a heli I would truly love based on the V1 platform. I know that sounds like I have a big ego. I don't. I was the v1's harshest critic. But instead of focusing on it's faults, I worked with MSH to redefine it into the best heli they could possibly make. Without compromise.

I think they succeeded. I hope you guys love this thing as much as I do. I have a passion for the hobby. And a brutal honesty on things (I swear I'm a nice guy though!). In the end, I think it produces a higher bar and a better result.

There is something extremely special about a heli with no gear mesh. Just 2 (gates) belts. Set and forget. It really makes a world of difference when a model can't be stripped and you don't need to turn a screw for many many hundreds of flights to service it. For me, my time is valuable, and nothing is worse than a high maintenance heli.

Cheers.

[Jmann841]

The design looks excellent. I will be keeping an eye on this one!