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03-25-2011, 09:39 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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BeastX Vs. Mini-V
I am wondering which is better, are they comparable in ease of setup? I may have a chance to get a 550e with a mini-v bar instead of beastx, do you guys think the mini-v performs just as well?
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03-25-2011, 09:41 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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This is primarily a subjective thing. It is not one that can (easily) be objectively measured.
Some will prefer v-bar, some beastx and some other units. General consensus is both work very, very well and neither is a poor choice. |
03-25-2011, 09:58 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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I have beastx on my t-rex 550 and it's work very well and it's very easy to setup. No need to bye software like Mikado.
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03-25-2011, 10:01 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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i have owned both
microbeast very easy to set up, no computer needed vbar very easy to set up, but computer is needed, havent upgraded to the pro yet i honestly think they both fly close enough to the same for joe blow, or myself anyways... i am deff not a smack down 3d pilot |
03-25-2011, 11:10 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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Vbar comes to life on pro settings and gives a very crisp setup. But it needs tweaking to get it feeling as you want, I find the vbar easier to work with but that's because I'm used to it I guess.
Beastx works well too and fairly easy to set up, just check with other what tail setup they have and so on to take away some tweaking hehe.
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03-25-2011, 05:58 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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thanks guys, you have all been very helpful
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03-26-2011, 03:43 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Hi,
They are both flying very good. Hardware (sensors) is the same, so difference is coming from software. mini Vbar is V5 software revision and microbeast is V2 revision Microbeast upgrades are free, Vbar's you'll have to pay for. regards Marcel |
03-26-2011, 04:18 AM | #8 (permalink) | |
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Both work fine, vbar as pro gives more options for tweaking. And pro vbar offers a dramatic improvement over express
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03-26-2011, 09:57 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Beastx works well too and fairly easy to set up, just check with other what tail setup they have and so on to take away some tweaking hehe.[/QUOTE]
I run the beastx on one of my 700n and never had to Tweat the tail or anything for that matter and yes i fly 3D, One my flying buddys flys the Vbar and it flys very well after a few weekends of tweating. If you want out of the box performance and if your setup right I wound go with Beastx and save yourself a few bills
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03-26-2011, 10:08 AM | #10 (permalink) |
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"Vbar comes to life on pro settings and gives a very crisp setup."
"And pro vbar offers a dramatic improvement over express " Absolutely Correct! (I learned this from Klaus-very, very large difference between 5.0 Express and 5.1 Pro on my 6HV).
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03-26-2011, 10:19 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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I have both. BeastX is definitely easier to initially set up. You need a computer with the VBar but you'll also have the option to customize many more options than BeastX. You can get great out of the box performance with the Mini VBar too (meaning you can just fly with the recommended settings). If I ever needed to tweak settings it might have taken me 4 to 5 flights max.
Either one will work fine; if you can get a good deal on a heli that already has a Mini VBar on it then just go with it. BTW, you're asking this question on the BeastX forum so guess which unit will get more recommendations. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
03-26-2011, 10:36 AM | #12 (permalink) | |
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Buy the vbar if you are happy to use a PC to configure your bird; buy the BeastX if not. |
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03-26-2011, 12:39 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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"Which begs the question, of course, why Mikado don't offer for sale the Pro version? Instead they offer the Express and you take in a deep breath before you part with your dough, thinking you are done. And then you realize you need to cough up another 20% on top to get the Pro. Less than honest sales tactics IMO."
I don't think I would say "less than honest" but I did ask myself the same question, sir (i.e. why not just sell it with the Pro Version installed in the first place). Knowing what I know now, I would started with the Pro Version (Myrseth convinced me to upgrade and I am grateful he did). I just got a "Full Size" V-Bar and am not even considering flying with it with Express-it will be upgraded immediately.
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03-26-2011, 01:22 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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This is how I look at it:
Most of the time if something works well then it isn't about the performance itself. Then you have to look at cost or ease of setup or whatever your concern is. The beastx performs extremely well, cost is relatively lower, and is easy to setup. The mini/vbar does give you more..cost is higher though. Neither one will disappoint.
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03-26-2011, 02:46 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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"Most of the time if something works well then it isn't about the performance itself. Then you have to look at cost or ease of setup or whatever your concern is.
The beastx performs extremely well, cost is relatively lower, and is easy to setup. The mini/vbar does give you more..cost is higher though. Neither one will disappoint." Extremely well put sir!
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03-26-2011, 03:52 PM | #17 (permalink) | |
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Bottom line for OP: when comparing price tags, multiply headline vbar price by 1.2. And also go "full-size", not "mini". |
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03-26-2011, 04:03 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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Yup, the OP was just asking if the Mini VBar performs as well as the BeastX.
The short answer is yes, it performs at least as well. It can perform even better by through more customization options, as long as you're OK with using a computer to make the changes. Remember though, if you want to customize the BeastX more than turning the pots, you also have to hook it up to a computer -- and there aren't nearly as many customization options (with the BeastX PC software) as there are with the VBar. One other thing to remember is that there are extensive vibration diagnostic tools available with the Mikado software, and Mikado will release the governor function for Mini VBar shortly. And I'll say it again: both will work fine on the 550. |
03-26-2011, 04:24 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
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My vbar I setup on the bench and normally one flight for adjustment and I'm good, I did get myself a field unit now as I want to experiment a bit outside of what's needed with the new parameters, I have a feeling I can find the sweat spot where my heli gets all the advantages from the flybar and fbl in one setup I already got my heli to do piroflips in one spot without effort like flybar does, god I missed that ease flybar gives some maneuvers For the vbar cost thing. I wish mikado made express sw free upgrade major version and added cyclic ring to that version, that would take away the discussions and made express usable for most helis. But the pro sw is really worth the $$ in my eyes and I don't mind the upgrade cost, I feel I get bang for the buck invested, esp the gov. I am atm enjoying using the gov to save a shitload on esc and my ship with a fullsize with gov saves me $$$ compared to many alternatives. Same the paddle sim gives me the option of using 710s and still have a very fast and crisp setup. I recommend people to just have a look at the field and try to get a flight of the units then decide which path to take esp have a look at setup, I like both units myself but favor how the vbar does setup, my gf however favors the beastx on her 3D+
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03-27-2011, 11:36 AM | #20 (permalink) |
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I recommend people to just have a look at the field and try to get a flight of the units then decide which path to take esp have a look at setup, I like both units myself but favor how the vbar does setup, my gf however favors the beastx on her 3D+ [/QUOTE]
I like both as well, and iv'e had a few flight on my buddys vbar, As for me i went with the Beastx it a personal choice, I like how the beastx sets up and flys.
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