Next beginner heli?

[MotorG525]

Originally Posted by SpilledCrown

It sounds like you guys recommend getting a sim FIRST because you've all done it the hard way with heli-first training.
I've decided that I will get Realflight 7.5 (I'm in Canada so Heli-X is out of the question for NOW) and later maybe get a Trex 150/MCPX BL or 250, or even a 450 after I become solid in the simulator.

Thanks guys!!

Im curious as to why you cant get heli-x in canada?

[mgfiest]

I'm from Canada and I have it.. very curious in why as well....

[SpilledCrown]

Oh, I thought that, if heliX was a package, it would only be in the UK/Germany. I'll look into that as well then.

[Imzzaudae]

Where in Canada are you?

[SpilledCrown]

I am in the suburbs very close to Toronto (Richmond Hill)

[Imzzaudae]

I have family in Richmond Hill, Still do the Wonderland thing every summer! I'm just about 3 hours west of you. Just outside Sarnia Ontario.

[SpilledCrown]

Originally Posted by Imzzaudae

I have family in Richmond Hill, Still do the Wonderland thing every summer! I'm just about 3 hours west of you. Just outside Sarnia Ontario.

Oh, well that's actually really cool!

[BirdBarber]

I've seen a lot of people recommend the MCPX BL.
I have 3 MCPX BLs.
I don't recommend one for you.

They are expensive to fly, they fry tail motors constantly, main boards at least once or twice a year, and things like the landing gear and frame break way too easily. It adds up fast, both cost and frustration.

Frustration has been the killer of many newbies excitement about this hobby. If I were you I would get something simple, cheap and bulletproof first, and then get a sim second. If you get a MCPX BL, it may eat up so much money it may limit your future options if you are on a budget.

Good choices would be a used MCPX, a Hisky HCP100S with a Spektrum satellite or even maybe a V911 with the bigger transmitter.

The MCPX is cheap and crashes way cheaper than the BL. It's a little low on power for 3D, but that also means it's less intimidating. It's great for sport flying and does ok at 3D if you pause a few seconds between stunts.

The HCP100S is very rugged, way more powerful than the MCPX BL, $83 (+DSMX satellite) from the Banggood US warehouse, and parts are stupid cheap. But it may be intimidating, it can really rip holes in the sky. I fly hard, nonstop 3D with the throttle at 40.

The V911 with the bigger transmitter from the V912 or V913 would be great for orientation training and indoor flying. It is the most bulletproof heli ever made, but is only 4 channel so 3D is out. It's better than a quad because you get all the heli characteristics caused by a tail rotor and it's dirt cheap. I still fly mine in the bedroom when I'm bored in the winter.

Also somebody mentioned the V120D02s. It's very rugged if you add a slipper clutch to the tail and replace the main shaft pins with copper wire. It's also the best handling of this group, but bigger is always more expensive. If you try to fly a 250 or larger on a budget, you may not get much flying in because you can't easily afford a backup heli and a large box of spares like the 100 class helis.

[yakky]

Originally Posted by SpilledCrown

Whoops, I accidentally wrote Trex 120 instead of 150 lol.

Is the Walkera v120 easy to fly/learn with? I'm starting to lean more towards either a sim or a small heli like the ones suggested.

The V120 is one of the easiest CP 3D capable helis out there. The 6 axis FBL system is great, as soon as you let go of the cyclic it self levels. It doesn't mean it won't crash into something if you do something stupid, but it keeps it in the air should you lose orientation. IMO for newbies, it is even better than bailout, no button to try to find. If you do crash, its very durable, I've crashed probably 15 times and only broken parts once.

[BirdBarber]

Originally Posted by yakky

The V120 is one of the easiest CP 3D capable helis out there. The 6 axis FBL system is great, as soon as you let go of the cyclic it self levels....

+1

Also, the stability is adjustable via a cyclic gain knob on the receiver. Turn it up when you first start flying. Later, turn it down to make it twitchier for faster stunt response. If you put a Microline slipper clutch on the tail gears and replace the main shaft metal pins with copper wire the crash cost averages way under $1 per crash.

If you sell your DX7 and pick up a used Devo 8S transmitter for $100-$130 and load the Deviation firmware on it then it can fly both Blade and Walkera helis. They have a color touch screen, 12 channels, telemetry, 255 model memory, DSMX, DSM2, Devo and a bunch of other protocols. Devention is easy to install because most Walkera transmitters have a built in USB port for loading firmware and backing up your transmitter models to your PC. They also work on Phoenix and RealFlight sims using the standard sim cables.

[SpilledCrown]

Originally Posted by BirdBarber

I've seen a lot of people recommend the MCPX BL.
I have 3 MCPX BLs.
I don't recommend one for you.

They are expensive to fly, they fry tail motors constantly, main boards at least once or twice a year, and things like the landing gear and frame break way too easily. It adds up fast, both cost and frustration.

Frustration has been the killer of many newbies excitement about this hobby. If I were you I would get something simple, cheap and bulletproof first, and then get a sim second. If you get a MCPX BL, it may eat up so much money it may limit your future options if you are on a budget.

Good choices would be a used MCPX, a Hisky HCP100S with a Spektrum satellite or even maybe a V911 with the bigger transmitter.

The MCPX is cheap and crashes way cheaper than the BL. It's a little low on power for 3D, but that also means it's less intimidating. It's great for sport flying and does ok at 3D if you pause a few seconds between stunts.

The HCP100S is very rugged, way more powerful than the MCPX BL, $83 (+DSMX satellite) from the Banggood US warehouse, and parts are stupid cheap. But it may be intimidating, it can really rip holes in the sky. I fly hard, nonstop 3D with the throttle at 40.

The V911 with the bigger transmitter from the V912 or V913 would be great for orientation training and indoor flying. It is the most bulletproof heli ever made, but is only 4 channel so 3D is out. It's better than a quad because you get all the heli characteristics caused by a tail rotor and it's dirt cheap. I still fly mine in the bedroom when I'm bored in the winter.

Also somebody mentioned the V120D02s. It's very rugged if you add a slipper clutch to the tail and replace the main shaft pins with copper wire. It's also the best handling of this group, but bigger is always more expensive. If you try to fly a 250 or larger on a budget, you may not get much flying in because you can't easily afford a backup heli and a large box of spares like the 100 class helis.

Thanks for your input. The Hisky looks like a good option but I am just wondering, is my DX7 compatible with the 'Spektrum satellite' on the Hisky?

EDIT: Nevermind, you have to buy the satellite RECIEVER.