MCP vs V120d02s Sports flying

torch8 · 05-29-2012, 02:22 PM

Is is easier to learn sports flying (inverts, loops and rolls) on MCP or v120d02s? I can fly circuits very well with my v120d02s, however I don't have nerve to try inverts, loops and rolls on it. Can do it on my flight sim. Thinking fo getting MCP to learn.

V120d02s with TT tail and more powerful motor, I assume would be easier to invert, roll and flip right? The MCP is lighter and more durable and fly in smaller space, but it may be more difficult?

zadaw · 05-30-2012, 09:50 AM

It is easier to learn basic 3D on a V120D02S than a Mini CP but it is far less durable. Therefore your downtime and costs will be far higher. Any reduction in the number of crashes with the V120D02S does not anywhere cover the extra costs involved. I regret not getting the Mini CP earlier.

The Mini CP is extremely stable when inverted and has got to be seen to be believed. It is far better than either the Genius CP or MCPx as a basic 3D trainer. I can go through 14 packs or 3D flights per session without any damage whatsoever. Whereas it is very rare for me to fly more than 8 packs of V120D02S without any damage I have have only had one tail blowout ever whereas I have had loads with the MCPx and Genius. I do not have problems with the stock motor bogging down either.

Although I have only flown 150 packs with the Mini CP, I have got more than my money's worth. Before then, I was just able to do inverted hovers but after one week, I was able to do slow and fast inverted circuits. Not only that, I am now flying much better inverted than upright now. I could go ground hugging and perimeter hugging inverted circuits on a small soccer field.

However, I am not sure whether it is the Mini CP alone or have something to my Devo 12S transmitter as well. My Devo V120D02S seems to fly a bit better than my 2801 pro V120D02S. It has been reported that the response to input is much faster on Devo transmitters than the 2801 pro. I would say if you are very keen on learning 3D, you should get it.

ChitownMatt · 05-30-2012, 12:04 PM

I too have both.

I'm not sure if I can say one is easier than the other, but I certainly agree with Zadaw that the Mini is less likely to be damaged... just alot less mass to carry momentum into the ground.

FYI: I did my first flips with the 02s and then immediately after the Mini.

"...however I don't have nerve to try inverts, loops and rolls on it."

You are worrying too much, just get outside over some grass and flip that thing.

I would however recommend you get about 40' off the ground your first few times. If you are 40' or more, you barely even have to touch the collective... just pull the cyclic all the way back and hold it there until it is upright again... it might look a little ugly and you will loose quite a bit of air, but you'll make it.

Heli-opolis · 05-30-2012, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChitownMatt

I would however recommend you get about 40' off the ground your first few times. If you are 40' or more, you barely even have to touch the collective... just pull the cyclic all the way back and hold it there until it is upright again... it might look a little ugly and you will loose quite a bit of air, but you'll make it.

+1

Altitude is your friend, unless you are an Alti-holic.

zadaw · 05-30-2012, 08:40 PM

I would say get on and flip the V120D02S as well. Choose a place with tall grass and do it at a high altitude. You will get confident once you have got your first successful flips in. Then perhaps you can get a Mini CP then. I learnt most of my basic 3D on the V120D02S and so it can be done.

05-29-2012, 02:22 PM	#1
torch8 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NYC	MCP vs V120d02s Sports flying Is is easier to learn sports flying (inverts, loops and rolls) on MCP or v120d02s? I can fly circuits very well with my v120d02s, however I don't have nerve to try inverts, loops and rolls on it. Can do it on my flight sim. Thinking fo getting MCP to learn. V120d02s with TT tail and more powerful motor, I assume would be easier to invert, roll and flip right? The MCP is lighter and more durable and fly in smaller space, but it may be more difficult? __________________ Walkera V4501 Gaui 200 V2 MicroBeastx Walkera M120D01

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05-30-2012, 09:50 AM	#2
zadaw Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hong Kong	It is easier to learn basic 3D on a V120D02S than a Mini CP but it is far less durable. Therefore your downtime and costs will be far higher. Any reduction in the number of crashes with the V120D02S does not anywhere cover the extra costs involved. I regret not getting the Mini CP earlier. The Mini CP is extremely stable when inverted and has got to be seen to be believed. It is far better than either the Genius CP or MCPx as a basic 3D trainer. I can go through 14 packs or 3D flights per session without any damage whatsoever. Whereas it is very rare for me to fly more than 8 packs of V120D02S without any damage I have have only had one tail blowout ever whereas I have had loads with the MCPx and Genius. I do not have problems with the stock motor bogging down either. Although I have only flown 150 packs with the Mini CP, I have got more than my money's worth. Before then, I was just able to do inverted hovers but after one week, I was able to do slow and fast inverted circuits. Not only that, I am now flying much better inverted than upright now. I could go ground hugging and perimeter hugging inverted circuits on a small soccer field. However, I am not sure whether it is the Mini CP alone or have something to my Devo 12S transmitter as well. My Devo V120D02S seems to fly a bit better than my 2801 pro V120D02S. It has been reported that the response to input is much faster on Devo transmitters than the 2801 pro. I would say if you are very keen on learning 3D, you should get it.

05-30-2012, 12:04 PM	#3
ChitownMatt Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA, Il, CHI	I too have both. I'm not sure if I can say one is easier than the other, but I certainly agree with Zadaw that the Mini is less likely to be damaged... just alot less mass to carry momentum into the ground. FYI: I did my first flips with the 02s and then immediately after the Mini. "...however I don't have nerve to try inverts, loops and rolls on it." You are worrying too much, just get outside over some grass and flip that thing. I would however recommend you get about 40' off the ground your first few times. If you are 40' or more, you barely even have to touch the collective... just pull the cyclic all the way back and hold it there until it is upright again... it might look a little ugly and you will loose quite a bit of air, but you'll make it.

05-30-2012, 08:40 PM	#5
zadaw Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hong Kong	I would say get on and flip the V120D02S as well. Choose a place with tall grass and do it at a high altitude. You will get confident once you have got your first successful flips in. Then perhaps you can get a Mini CP then. I learnt most of my basic 3D on the V120D02S and so it can be done.