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jmackey · 05-26-2015, 06:49 AM

Regarding power output, the KDE 600XF is not lacking at all on 6S.
You just need to find the gearing that gets your desired headspeed. I've found that running a little lower gearing/higher throttle % works well. Minimizes the work you motor has to do (mechanical advantage) compared to higher gearing and you need a little less headroom for governor with a high power/weight ratio heli like this.

I'm running the mod 1.0 gears with 12T pinion for a tached 2300 headspeed at 84% throttle on my Jive Pro. This setup can ask a lot from your batteries, but puts out a lot when you ask for it.

dominoedge · 06-27-2015, 10:40 PM

After having my 550sx since late last year, I finally had a chance to maiden it over the past few days. I've put 12 flights on it so far.

Overall, it feels pretty good at 2000, but agree that it feels a bit underpowered with the stock 4025-1100 motor and the 14T pinion. Any collective input feels lethargic and collective management seems to be a required skill for this setup. I'm not sure this is bad though -- just different. It's been fun flying this so far at the lower power and headspeed than I'm used to (compared to a Goblin 500). I think I may make this my low HS practice heli and learn more CM rather than upgrading it.

crashjack · 06-27-2015, 10:55 PM

I upgraded to a 15T pinion and made governor adjustments (Ikon). I'm still tweaking a little, but am much happier with collective now.

dominoedge · 06-27-2015, 11:04 PM

I'm thinking about doing the 15T. Sounds like it will give it that extra bite.

Duramax11 · 06-28-2015, 02:45 PM

In my opinion, the 15t is a must on the Logo 500/550 with the scorpion 4025-1100. Running mine at 1800, 2000, 2200 and it's perfect.

crashjack · 06-28-2015, 11:45 PM

Seems like 2200 wouldn't leave you with much headroom. I've been tuning my governor at 2065 and when I get it where I want, I'll kick the rpm up a little to 2100 and see if everything is still ok. 2100 is where I want to be.

acidla · 07-02-2015, 02:04 PM

V2 kits with what pinion they come?

crashjack · 07-03-2015, 07:03 PM

I'm pretty sure 14T.

RedJoE · 07-03-2015, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acidla

V2 kits with what pinion they come?

They don't come with a pinon in the kit, you have to purchase separately.

05-26-2015, 06:49 AM	#41 (permalink)
jmackey Registered Users Join Date: May 2011	Regarding power output, the KDE 600XF is not lacking at all on 6S. You just need to find the gearing that gets your desired headspeed. I've found that running a little lower gearing/higher throttle % works well. Minimizes the work you motor has to do (mechanical advantage) compared to higher gearing and you need a little less headroom for governor with a high power/weight ratio heli like this. I'm running the mod 1.0 gears with 12T pinion for a tached 2300 headspeed at 84% throttle on my Jive Pro. This setup can ask a lot from your batteries, but puts out a lot when you ask for it. __________________ Jay - Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Lynx / OXY Team Pilot, Zeal Team Pilot

06-27-2015, 10:40 PM	#42 (permalink)
dominoedge Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2012	550SX stock gearing and motor expectations After having my 550sx since late last year, I finally had a chance to maiden it over the past few days. I've put 12 flights on it so far. Overall, it feels pretty good at 2000, but agree that it feels a bit underpowered with the stock 4025-1100 motor and the 14T pinion. Any collective input feels lethargic and collective management seems to be a required skill for this setup. I'm not sure this is bad though -- just different. It's been fun flying this so far at the lower power and headspeed than I'm used to (compared to a Goblin 500). I think I may make this my low HS practice heli and learn more CM rather than upgrading it. __________________ Heinseleit TDR-2 w/ Pyro 800-48/Futaba/Kosmik & NEO DIABOLO 700 w/ XTS/Torq/Kosmik & NEO Kraken w/ XTS/X8/Kosmik & NEO Goblin 500 Sport w/ Xnova/BK/Jive & NEO (rebuilt)

06-27-2015, 10:55 PM	#43 (permalink)
crashjack Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2012	I upgraded to a 15T pinion and made governor adjustments (Ikon). I'm still tweaking a little, but am much happier with collective now. __________________ Go Dawgs!!!

06-27-2015, 11:04 PM	#44 (permalink)
dominoedge Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2012	I'm thinking about doing the 15T. Sounds like it will give it that extra bite. __________________ Heinseleit TDR-2 w/ Pyro 800-48/Futaba/Kosmik & NEO DIABOLO 700 w/ XTS/Torq/Kosmik & NEO Kraken w/ XTS/X8/Kosmik & NEO Goblin 500 Sport w/ Xnova/BK/Jive & NEO (rebuilt)

06-28-2015, 02:45 PM	#45 (permalink)
Duramax11 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2012	In my opinion, the 15t is a must on the Logo 500/550 with the scorpion 4025-1100. Running mine at 1800, 2000, 2200 and it's perfect. __________________ Logo 500 SE Mini Vbar 5.3 Pro/Savox/690SX swash Kontronik 100LV/Scorpion 4025-1100 Edge 603/92 ceramic lightning bearings

06-28-2015, 11:45 PM	#46 (permalink)
crashjack Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2012	Seems like 2200 wouldn't leave you with much headroom. I've been tuning my governor at 2065 and when I get it where I want, I'll kick the rpm up a little to 2100 and see if everything is still ok. 2100 is where I want to be. __________________ Go Dawgs!!!

07-02-2015, 02:04 PM	#47 (permalink)
acidla Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2007	V2 kits with what pinion they come? __________________ \|Michalis\| ...let the flying be second nature!

07-03-2015, 07:03 PM	#48 (permalink)
crashjack Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2012	I'm pretty sure 14T. __________________ Go Dawgs!!!

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