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05-29-2010, 05:20 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Open budget..........Man I wish.
As posted prio, where you will fly makes a difference. If you are hooked on the hobby and by the indicators, you are. JOIN A CLUB, it offers 2 very important things and one far out weights the other A SAFE place to fly. Flame suit at the ready especially since Im mostly a RR guy and dont post here too much. A park is rarely a safe place to fly. Honestly I really thing a park is not a safe place to fly but that may be a very very small understatement. Dis agree if you like, its my opinion and I know of a young lady in Florida who would most definitely agree with me. Next and important as well, is access to a wealth of knowledge that cant be had anywhere else. Not on HF not on RR not on RCG. Hands on give and take is not something that is internetable. All that said, and again IMO and assuming a club setting, I really thing a 30 or maybe a 50 is the best started Heli. That nice big disc is worth its weight in gold and the 10-12 min flight time is just what a new guys need more than anything. Stick time is the only thing that will improve your flying ability. The draw back is also an important benifit. What draw back? The nitro adds another whole set of failure points. A whole additional set of things that HAVE to be correct if you dont want to end your flight in a crash. If there is one thing I have learned in this hobby its, the details all matter, everything HAS to be right. Nitro will teach you that in short order. Pressure line good? clunk line the right length? Muffler tight? Lean? Rich? Yes some additional details, each important. The sooner you know its all set up right the sooner you will trust your heli and yourself. Both things that will greatly improve your skills. At a club tuning will be learned 10x faster than alone ( I know this as fact). 30-50 Nitros are cheaper in the short run to get in and get up, I know this is open for debate but not to me. They give you twice the air time at a much reduced cost compared disc size to disc size. And disc size is what you want. Personally, I think the Century NX 50 is a very good deal but there are many others that are good too. If you are stuck on electric, and I do love my Logos, then I think its hard to go wrong with Mikado. A stretched 400 will swing 500mm blades. I just love mine and with over 300 flights on it, I have replaced the ball links and tail slider. Thats all, um other than crashes.............If the budget is truly open a Logo 500 rocks. Out of the box its ready for 550s. It takes standard servos and can run 6-12s. Cant say enough about the Mikados, just awesome Helis. Ive rambled, sorry guys. Good luck |
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05-29-2010, 06:04 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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As a beginner , I'd say grab a more docile bird like the T500 that is cheapish to repair. Maybe grab a 600 too (the Logo recommendations are sound - Mikado make truly great helis) and see if you can use your packs on both.
The beauty with having a cheapish heli to repair is that you learn a lot quicker as the fear factor is less. If you own both you can do experiments with the smaller heli and smooth flight and orientation practice with the larger one. I'm still flying a Logo 20 on the original esc, motor, frame, servos, batteries etc. It's that good. But I hold back on anything more than flips and loops as the blade cost makes me cringe.
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05-29-2010, 06:19 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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I have owned almost all of the Align range and still have my Trex700.
But for you, I'd recommend a Compass Atom 500 (6s Electric) to start and then step up to the new Compass 6HV (12s electric) once you are ready. The bonus is that you can you use 2 of your Atom packs at a time in the 6HV for power meaning you won't need new batteries! Just make sure you have enough packs and a good charging system or you'll be waiting around a lot. I am a Nitro guy and love my Compass 3D+! |
05-29-2010, 07:02 PM | #24 (permalink) | ||
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I just went from nitro to electric and what a mistake .Now I need about $500.00 - $600.00 in lipos but that's for my flying style .It might pay off in the end but let me tell ya,you better have some money for lipos and a good charger.If you have a good budget go electric but if not then start with one of these http://www.grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/111703 .A 500 size is close to crash cost with a 50/600 size so skip the 500 and go right to the 50/600 size,but thats my opinion..
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05-29-2010, 07:08 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Open budget would be a logo 600 for electric. Why is everyone mentioning crash costs? thats only for us poor people.
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05-29-2010, 07:19 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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T700 n the best align has to offer
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05-30-2010, 05:33 AM | #27 (permalink) |
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To be fair, I've had "no budget" purchases before - but that's a different ball game from ongoing repair costs. No matter if I have the spare cash, I still don't like throwing it away :-)
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05-30-2010, 05:48 AM | #28 (permalink) | |
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If your friend can teach you about nitro tuning, then definitely go that route. You'll be able to fly it year round and not have to worry about lipos. Outrage Velocity 50 or Compass 3D plus are a couple of other good 50 size options to consider.
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05-30-2010, 06:01 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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open budget - then you don't need to ask what to get. Get them all !!
But actually you probably do have restrictions - in time to build, house, maintain, and time to fly. How about this.. attack with overwhelming force a 450 pro for practicing scary new moves on, because you don't worry as much about crashing it. Plus it works well when space is limited. a protos because it still can be used in smaller spaces but has crazy power and speed and is just a bit different. And a logo 600, which flies with more instant on-tap power than a nitro, from first second to last, and will fly for 7 minutes. lastly, if you want to have some unobtanium to show off, get the three-dee-rigid instead of either the t-rex 700 or upcoming logo 700. You can share packs with the Logo. All of them fit with Mikado v-bar, not the least reason being they will all fly without quirks, fly similarly, and can be tuned from mild and forgiving to wild as you progress. Get at least four, maybe six, packs of each you will need (3s, 6s, 6s+6s(12s)) and parallel charging cables, a fat 24v power supply, and two chargers, and 1 hour on your charge bench can fill enough for 10 or 12 flights on two different helis depending on your mood. No need to schedule battery charging sessions like a military campaign around the weather. That one hour at home gets you two hours of field time with a short break between each flight. Sell all the packs after a year and buy anew again, because nothing worse than flying with tired packs.
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