X7 vs Goblin

[IndividualWon]

I only got $1000 bux to blow. X7 or Goblin? Yes the Gob comes with blades, but I'm more concerned with the overall mechanical prowess/build/maintenence of either machine. Belt vs TT doesn't make any difference to me either. Anyone lucky enough to have both?

[Chris Sexton]

I was originally on the list for the goblin but ultimately decided to wait. I know very little about SAB so I have no reason to doubt their abilities but something about the fact that this is their very first mass production helicopter concerns me. Sure they are beautiful and in the hands of someone like Bert or Tareq, they absolutely dance. But how is parts support goin to be? How about fit and finish?

I have watched the goblin forums and it would seem that they are in fact having some inconsistencies with the tail boom quality and the paint on the frames and skids. Is that enough to "paint" a negative reputation on a new bird? Of course not but it is enough to make me want to wait until they are a bit more common.

Was the launch of the x7 perfect? Of course not. There were mixed reports of minor issues with tail control rods, linkage quality and such but nothing that was not easily addressed with readily available parts.

Also parts aren't impossible to get. Most dealers have most of the parts in stock. There are exceptions, main shafts and canopies for one, but the common stuff, booms tt gears, frames, etc are readily available.

Either way you are going to get a great heli. It just depends on how "bleeding" Edge you want to be and if you are prepared to deal with parts availability issues.


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[irishmatt18]

CD says it spot on. Only thing I would compare is the crash cost. Look at those. The SAB is FAR more expensive then the X7. FAR more expensive and thus far parts are scarce.

In fact helidirect has 47 parts listed in total and they are mostly screw, washers, nuts and bolts... Nothing that would repair a minor crash.

[IndividualWon]

Thanks guys. I see ALMOST all Scorpion Motors. Does Xera, Hyperion etc fit the motor mount/bolt pattern?

[frito169]

Only motors w/ a 30mm bolt pattern will work which cuts out all but 1 x-era motors, only the hkIII motors from scorpion of their 4035 series. This was one of my big complaints about this X7. Personally if I only had one 700 size it would be a tough decision . I would probably get the whip lash not the x7 after owning both. The x7 is lighter and imho better looking whereas the whiplash has higher quality parts and machining, is a simpler build w/ better battery protection (somewhat limiting battery selection due to size constraints), it is not limited on motor selection and it has a much larger air presence. As far as the goblin I wouldn't even consider it I don't like belts because static, the parts are very expensive, It's the first Heli I know of from them and i would be concerned about parts availability.

[IndividualWon]

Well said frito. Thx.

[wicked_n_raw]

Another thing to consider is parts availability. If you have a mishap how quicly can you get back in the air. Hopefully I will taking delivery on both birds today.

[CeeveeSiN]

Originally Posted by irishmatt18

CD says it spot on. Only thing I would compare is the crash cost. Look at those. The SAB is FAR more expensive then the X7. FAR more expensive and thus far parts are scarce.

In fact helidirect has 47 parts listed in total and they are mostly screw, washers, nuts and bolts... Nothing that would repair a minor crash.

far more expensive? 900 for the X7 no blades vs 999 for a heli that comes with carbon mains and tails in the box. that looks pretty much dead even to me.

so technically the goblin would be less..since you are ahead already since you dont need to buy 120 dollars for mains and 30 for tails.

the only part that is a severe upgrade is crash costs would be the boom.

that would be a possible extra 70ish dollars per crash if its damaged.
since a normal bird you can get the tubes for 20ish bucks +10 or so for a TT

I dont think the gobber is much worse to crash than an X7 other than the boom. canopies are about the same as any other 700 Canomods at 80-100 bucks. and I'm sure sooner or later Fusano will have a copy out at a lower price..

[akamullen]

Sounds to me there is really only 1 very large factor to consider, Parts Availability. I would much rather have a bird that I can beat on and not "worry Fly". Nothing worse than looking at a crashed helicopter for a month or two trying to get parts to fix it and you just cant. The other option I was pondering, was to get 2 goblins so I could have back up parts, but in the end I chose not to go that route as it seems silly. Maybe by next year this time parts will be flowing better, but right now, if you crash a goblin, Whats a guy to do?

Trying to fly with the thought of not being able to get parts in the back of your mind is NOT fun. That is one less thing I will have to worry about with the X7. I actually had the chance at a goblin, I went the other way for a few minor reasons, but the biggest reason was parts availability. We have 6 month summers/flying season up here in ND, so looking at a crashed bird for what could be half a flying season was unacceptable. I want to be back up within a few days, not months.


Just my 2 cents.

[irishmatt18]

I wasn't referring to the cost of the birds, they are pretty similar, I was referring to the cost of the parts. Check them out... So far they are more expensive if you can find them.

[CeeveeSiN]

parts for any new heli including the X7 are always hard to get for the first few months.. and the parts that were available were bought up in seconds the other night on HD.

SAB is ramping up still the parts will be there.

right now there are certain shortages on X7 parts as well..

and last year even Aligns best selling helis had a shortage.. for half the summer parts were sold out everywhere for most helis.

companies are just producing less parts these last couple years.

hopefully this year will be different.

[akamullen]

All X7 parts are available as far as I know. Its been out for about 1 month. The main shafts were the only item that was not around for about 1 month. now there here, so now one can finally fly low and not worry about getting back in the air. Goblin, not so much. There are many GAUI parts dealers in the states, and only 1 goblin parts dealer as far as I know. Hopefully this will change, but until it does, I will not be owning one.

BUT, I may grab one and add to my fleet this fall if parts are flowing better though. Its a neat bird for sure. But belt drive, I just don't like belts... Other than that, I will probably be flying one by next spring.

[CeeveeSiN]

Ah ok so they did catch up with the shafts and canopies?

either way gobber or X7 you don't lose.. they are both incredible!

[akamullen]

Originally Posted by CeeveeSiN

Ah ok so they did catch up with the shafts and canopies?

either way gobber or X7 you don't lose.. they are both incredible!

AGREED... I like them both, and will most likley own the goblin too.

[irishmatt18]

COME ON FUSION 90e!!

[irishmatt18]

Or a Gaui X11 would be cool.

[IndividualWon]

Is it worth mentioning the 7HV?

[akamullen]

Originally Posted by irishmatt18

Or a Gaui X11 would be cool.

Actually a X8 upgrade kit would be sweet. the X7 is the most solid 90 I have ever seen, it would easily be able to swing 813's if they only had a longer boom 800 kit available.. That coupled with the new wrap around style canopy would be the nuts for a larger machine. I have to be careful when beating on my TREX 800E, the gear is barley enough for 700mm's much less 800mm's flying hard with any decent governing. The X7 gear would easily stand for the larger 813's flying as hard as you like..

Sorry, kinda got off topic..

[IndividualWon]

The more I look at the threads/photos on the X7 the more I dig it. I kinda like the look of the Goblin.. And as cool as the transmission looks on the Goblin.. I'm starting to like the simplicity of the main/crown/pinion gear setup of the X7.

[CeeveeSiN]

Originally Posted by IndividualWon

The more I look at the threads/photos on the X7 the more I dig it. I kinda like the look of the Goblin.. And as cool as the transmission looks on the Goblin.. I'm starting to like the simplicity of the main/crown/pinion gear setup of the X7.

hey man go with whatever screams your name if its the X7 jump on it

I've flown several Gaui's over the years and I loved them.