Is the spindel shaft different?

ARCK · 12-23-2008, 09:27 AM

I don't know which Trex 450 I have, my problem is due a crash I bought a spindel shaft pack to change the bad but it doesn't go all the way in the rotor head and grips, is this part different in length thru the versions?,,,

thanks

airjawed · 12-23-2008, 09:35 AM

Yes...there are basically two different types...a 3mm one and a 4mm one

Big_Daddy · 12-23-2008, 09:38 AM

I know the V2 spindle is not interchangeable with the xl spindle. Not sure about the SE (non-V2).

The V2 spindle is larger and is shouldered, or in other words, steps down to a smaller diameter where it enters the blade grips.

BD

Skarn · 12-23-2008, 09:38 AM

Not different in lengths but in the diamater as airjawed said.

Skarn

ARCK · 12-23-2008, 09:46 AM

Ohhh,,, thanks,,so fast,,,,,its possible that I have the SE with a v2 head? it doest have the align mark,,,,could someone measure the length of his head?,, please,,, I'm confuse,,,this little align spindle seems too short,,,,.

Thanks

Skiddz · 12-23-2008, 10:41 AM

The feathering shaft/spindle is the same length on the 450SE and the 450SEV2. The difference is the shaft diameter. The SE's shaft is 3mm and the SEV2's is 4mm.

It's possible if you bought that heli used, it's got an aftermarket head or parts on it. Both my SEs and my V2 have Align embossed on the head block.

ARCK · 12-23-2008, 10:55 AM

Thanks, Kevin,,,yes,,, u are right, its used,,,don't know which brand is,,,,maybe its better to buy an original align head,,,,,,,,ok in this point which is the best for my trex,,,I mean the v2?,,,which dampers etc,,,,,,

greetings
werner

Skiddz · 12-23-2008, 11:10 AM

Best is subjective. The V2 spindle is larger and stronger... In theory, it'll survive crashes better than the thinner SE shaft. Now, having said that, there have been reports of the the V2 actually bending the head block in crashes because the feathering shaft is so strong. I haven't seen it with my V2, but then again I've only crashed that one twice and both times it went in tail first with hold on.

I HAVE crashed one of my SEs a bunch of times including one where I had to cut the dampers and the remains of the feathering shaft to get it out and had no head block damage at all. IMO, I'd rather twist up a $3.00 feathering shaft than a $25 head block.

ARCK · 12-23-2008, 11:17 AM

It sounds reasonable,,,,,I will buy only the head,,,thanks
werner

airjawed · 12-23-2008, 04:14 PM

What is the dimension you need for the feathering shaft? How long, what diameter and is it stepped at the ends?

Pinecone · 12-26-2008, 06:24 AM

All non-SE V2s use the same spindle/feathering shaft. The SE V2 uses a different one. The V2 version has step down near each end. The non=V2 one is constant diameter from end to end.

And as Skiddz says, if the head is not Algin, it may use a different shaft.

And for new people, I recommend the V1 head setup for duability. The V2 spindles still bend, but sometimes take out the head block. The larger spindle was put in, not for crash esistance, but strength when running headspeeds up the 3400+ RPM range.

12-23-2008, 09:27 AM	#1
ARCK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Piura Peru	Is the spindel shaft different? I don't know which Trex 450 I have, my problem is due a crash I bought a spindel shaft pack to change the bad but it doesn't go all the way in the rotor head and grips, is this part different in length thru the versions?,,, thanks __________________ Blade cx2, Raptor30v1, Raptor50v2, Trex 450se, 9CAP, Gyro 240&401, GV1 and and and planks&Monster Truck revo3.3,,,not coming the Trex Pro 600 glow version instead a Titan,,,,,,,Yeah!!

12-23-2008, 09:35 AM	#2
airjawed Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cliffside Park NJ	Yes...there are basically two different types...a 3mm one and a 4mm one __________________ Trex 450 Pro 3xDS410M + MKS8910A+, Align FBL head w/Microbeast, CC 45 Gov@ 3400rpm(max timing, outrunner mode), Scorpion 2221-8 on 14t, Edge FBL main and tail, CF boom, CC BEC @ 6V

12-23-2008, 09:46 AM	#5
ARCK Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Piura Peru	Ohhh,,, thanks,,so fast,,,,,its possible that I have the SE with a v2 head? it doest have the align mark,,,,could someone measure the length of his head?,, please,,, I'm confuse,,,this little align spindle seems too short,,,,. Thanks __________________ Blade cx2, Raptor30v1, Raptor50v2, Trex 450se, 9CAP, Gyro 240&401, GV1 and and and planks&Monster Truck revo3.3,,,not coming the Trex Pro 600 glow version instead a Titan,,,,,,,Yeah!!

12-23-2008, 10:41 AM	#6
Skiddz HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA (USA)	The feathering shaft/spindle is the same length on the 450SE and the 450SEV2. The difference is the shaft diameter. The SE's shaft is 3mm and the SEV2's is 4mm. It's possible if you bought that heli used, it's got an aftermarket head or parts on it. Both my SEs and my V2 have Align embossed on the head block. __________________ -Kevin No helicopters were harmed in the creation of this post. AMA CD # 7309, Turbine Waiver# RW 890 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-23-2008, 10:55 AM	#7
ARCK Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Piura Peru	Thanks, Kevin,,,yes,,, u are right, its used,,,don't know which brand is,,,,maybe its better to buy an original align head,,,,,,,,ok in this point which is the best for my trex,,,I mean the v2?,,,which dampers etc,,,,,, greetings werner __________________ Blade cx2, Raptor30v1, Raptor50v2, Trex 450se, 9CAP, Gyro 240&401, GV1 and and and planks&Monster Truck revo3.3,,,not coming the Trex Pro 600 glow version instead a Titan,,,,,,,Yeah!!

12-23-2008, 09:38 AM	#3
Big_Daddy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Woodinville, WA. USA	I know the V2 spindle is not interchangeable with the xl spindle. Not sure about the SE (non-V2). The V2 spindle is larger and is shouldered, or in other words, steps down to a smaller diameter where it enters the blade grips. BD

12-23-2008, 09:38 AM	#4
Skarn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pasadena, MD	Not different in lengths but in the diamater as airjawed said. Skarn

12-23-2008, 11:10 AM	#8
Skiddz HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA (USA)	Best is subjective. The V2 spindle is larger and stronger... In theory, it'll survive crashes better than the thinner SE shaft. Now, having said that, there have been reports of the the V2 actually bending the head block in crashes because the feathering shaft is so strong. I haven't seen it with my V2, but then again I've only crashed that one twice and both times it went in tail first with hold on. I HAVE crashed one of my SEs a bunch of times including one where I had to cut the dampers and the remains of the feathering shaft to get it out and had no head block damage at all. IMO, I'd rather twist up a $3.00 feathering shaft than a $25 head block. __________________ -Kevin No helicopters were harmed in the creation of this post. AMA CD # 7309, Turbine Waiver# RW 890 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-23-2008, 11:17 AM	#9
ARCK Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Piura Peru	It sounds reasonable,,,,,I will buy only the head,,,thanks werner __________________ Blade cx2, Raptor30v1, Raptor50v2, Trex 450se, 9CAP, Gyro 240&401, GV1 and and and planks&Monster Truck revo3.3,,,not coming the Trex Pro 600 glow version instead a Titan,,,,,,,Yeah!!

12-23-2008, 04:14 PM	#10
airjawed Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cliffside Park NJ	What is the dimension you need for the feathering shaft? How long, what diameter and is it stepped at the ends? __________________ Trex 450 Pro 3xDS410M + MKS8910A+, Align FBL head w/Microbeast, CC 45 Gov@ 3400rpm(max timing, outrunner mode), Scorpion 2221-8 on 14t, Edge FBL main and tail, CF boom, CC BEC @ 6V

12-26-2008, 06:24 AM	#11
Pinecone Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maryland	All non-SE V2s use the same spindle/feathering shaft. The SE V2 uses a different one. The V2 version has step down near each end. The non=V2 one is constant diameter from end to end. And as Skiddz says, if the head is not Algin, it may use a different shaft. And for new people, I recommend the V1 head setup for duability. The V2 spindles still bend, but sometimes take out the head block. The larger spindle was put in, not for crash esistance, but strength when running headspeeds up the 3400+ RPM range. __________________ Terry AMA#47402, IRCHA # 3395 Blade CP "Pro", Trex 450SE, PiccoZ, Quick of Japan EP8v2 EX, Hurricane 550, Hurricane 200, JR Vibe 50, Blade mCX, Bergen Intrepid Gasser, Pantera 50, Blade mSR, Novus CP

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