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Old 01-08-2009, 10:25 AM   #21
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If the ESC boots up with trim in the centre then yes just rebind with RX.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:20 AM   #22
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I guess my question would be should I center my THR trim on the stock Tx and reprogram my Align ESC?
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:58 AM   #23
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I guess my question would be should I center my THR trim on the stock Tx and reprogram my Align ESC?
Yeah, I don't think it was the TX that had the problem. It was the crapesky ESC that thought that throttle trim was someone giving the ESC throttle.

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:20 PM   #24
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Ok I'll give it a go!
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:37 PM   #25
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Ok I'll give it a go!
Let's us know what happens. (Should be ok)

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Old 01-08-2009, 02:50 PM   #26
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The lowered throttle trim comes from our Lama days. All the Lama manuals said to keep the trim all the way down, and with the later ones, the 4 in 1 wouldn't setup if the trim wasn't all the way down.

Moving on to the Belt, here is a blurb from page 5 of the Belt manual.

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Old 01-08-2009, 04:10 PM   #27
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Let's us know what happens. (Should be ok)

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The lowered throttle trim comes from our Lama days. All the Lama manuals said to keep the trim all the way down, and with the later ones, the 4 in 1 wouldn't setup if the trim wasn't all the way down.

Moving on to the Belt, here is a blurb from page 5 of the Belt manual.

Hmmmmm, Hmmmmm, Now does this have to do with the Esky electronics, or does it have to do with TX programing?????? I do know that the Lamas and the Belt use the same Tx they are both 6 channel devices. The difference is the Lama Tx's don't have any thing hooked up to the 5th & 6th channels. They have the same THR curves and programming. With some soldiering and switch flipping you can built a Belt Tx with a Lama Tx. So I figured I'd better add some confusion before I go and need to do an emergency disconnect. Those blades hurt alot at 2300 rpms. I don't really want to find out how they feel at 3300 rpms! Or do another rebuild due to chicken dancing!
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:13 PM   #28
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Chad, i'm pretty sure it's because of the ESC not the TX. The stock esky TX is like any other TX but it's not computer and it doesn't have as many features.

I say reprogram your ESC with the throttle trim centre. And while reporgraming make sure your throttle knob is at 0.

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Old 01-09-2009, 03:26 AM   #29
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The lowered throttle trim comes from our Lama days. All the Lama manuals said to keep the trim all the way down, and with the later ones, the 4 in 1 wouldn't setup if the trim wasn't all the way down.

Moving on to the Belt, here is a blurb from page 5 of the Belt manual.


Same for Walkeras..........
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:35 AM   #30
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So here's what I did. I had to replace my stripped MG so while I had the head off and no MG, I decided to try. I reprogrammed my Align ESC with the THR trim centered stick at full throttle(as required to enter prog. mode) and it worked! The Soft Start starts way softer and it takes about 3 clicks on the stick before the moter even wants to start. So it has to be the crapEsky electronics. I will test further tomorrow as it's too late to fly in the living room. I also took the UBEC off the TV and put it on the bird! I'm ARTF I just need to get the tail set up been doing some gyro fiddlin to see if I can get both modes to work decently! One last thing I want to try before I give up and go fulltime HH again. I only use HH anyway but I just want to see if I can! I was watching some of Bob's vids today and I'll try his way of removing servo creep(in the Telebee gyro vid) to see if it helps using the stock Tx. If not I know what works!
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:47 AM   #31
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Nice Chad! I knew it would work!

Just shows how shit the Esky ESC's are.

There's only one thing Esky are good at makeing and that's batteries but they are still too expensive for what they are.

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Old 01-10-2009, 12:05 PM   #32
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Yep, Esky lipos are pretty good! I have put at least 200 cycles through my stocker and I was really hard on it before I knew proper lipo care! It is showing some signs of power loss now but I rate them highly. I think they also did a good job with the 704A gyro! That must be why they don't make it any more. They can't have anything good ruining their reputation!
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:12 PM   #33
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Back on topic! I think that any ESC that you can program the THR range should work, otherwise you should have your THR trim at the bottom, not just for the crapEsky ESC.
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:08 PM   #34
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Unless the ESC is programed at centre trim in the factory

Lol they stopped making the 704A gyro because it was too good and they didn't want to spoil their bad repition lol I like it

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Old 01-10-2009, 04:59 PM   #35
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Ok I've run some tests and it starts softer but I lost some head speed. I put the trim back down and it's more to my liking! It was worth a shot though thanks anyway! As far as the gyro Bob's technique failed as well.(cause its the stock Tx not Bob's fault) But now I'm getting Tx glitching again so I fixed that I hope. I will see when my lipos finish charging. Other than that she was flying pretty good!
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