Belt CP upgrade

linkahwai · 04-07-2009, 08:53 AM

After a crash, broken rotor head, gyro failure and one servo failure, I decide to go for upgrade. After a long wait for parts arrive, almost finish with Belt CP upgrade:

CopterX head + tail
SG-90 servo x4
Telebee GR302-AD gyro
GF blade x2
CopterX tail blade

I was using DX6i+AR6200 since some time ago. Still thinking if need to get a 30A ESC or BEC, what do you guys think? Also, a better look Trex canopy

I will post some pictures soon.

Sundance_kid · 04-07-2009, 10:37 AM

wow nice upgrades

ESC recommended to be change ASAP go for 40A with switching BEC

or separate BEC much better

Ian 777 · 04-07-2009, 11:45 AM

They will make it a much better heli and easier to learn on, I would think about a dts mod as well as this does remove slop from the system. with these upgrades your heli will fly nearly like a Trex, certainly far better than stock. I would stick with it till the frame is knacked and then think about a better clone.

Good Idea to upgrade the ESC though

Heli Yea! · 04-07-2009, 11:56 AM

+1 The stock ESC is really bad and can catch fire at any random time.

Mine was on fire 2 minutes out of the box giving it a test run in the living room!

another_finn · 04-07-2009, 12:12 PM

If you're running an AR6200 and SG90s on the stock ESC, my first move would be to get a decent switching UBEC as soon as humanly possible. The ESC itself is fine on the stock motor, it's the BEC part that tends to overheat and catch fire. Spend $25 on a CCBEC now and it will take whatever you can dish out for years to come.

When you decide to upgrade the motor, it will definitely be time to change the ESC too. The stock 25 A unit is just barely enough for the Esky 3800 kV, but nothing more than that. When you do upgrade, you might as well go for 40 A. The difference in price and weight is almost negligible, and you will have a lot more options for the motor.

linkahwai · 04-08-2009, 07:23 AM

Is hobbywing 30A ESC with built-in BEC a good choice for upgrade?

another_finn · 04-08-2009, 07:30 AM

IMHO that's a pretty marginal improvement with its linear 2A BEC. You would be better off with the latest version of the 40A model - it has a built-in 3A switching BEC, which alone is worth the price difference.

helihathnofury · 04-08-2009, 08:32 AM

+1 Mika.
Mine works very well on the 450, running a Scorpion 2221/8 and barely gets warm.

Skip

Heli Yea! · 04-08-2009, 08:51 AM

+2 Hobbywings are very good and you should definitely get the one that has the 3a switching BEC! I personally run the Align 35a with a Hobbywing UBEC (3a external switching type BEC) and my ESC never even gets warm running a power hungry motor. The motor gets a little warm though.

It would also have the amps needed to easily upgrade motors without having to upgrade the ESC!

lex7919 · 04-08-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helihathnofury

+1 Mika.
Mine works very well on the 450, running a Scorpion 2221/8 and barely gets warm.

Skip

Looking at this motor next myself ski, After my trex frame gets here!(genuine align item with all cnc bearing blocks etc...£40

) do ya know what sort of amps this pulls? and what sort of flight time do get with what mah lipo?

Cheers Skip

helihathnofury · 04-09-2009, 09:39 AM

I use 2450mAh LiPos and get around 7 to 8 mins before the monitor goes off.

Skip

linkahwai · 04-20-2009, 03:47 PM

Here are some pictures of upgraded belt cp

Ian 777 · 04-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Well thats going to fly better

have you flown it much

lex7919 · 04-20-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkahwai

Here are some pictures of upgraded belt cp

Hey thats loads better should fly nice now too

, just one small point that i saw i had the same gyro as yours and i think you may have some problems as it is and im almost sure in the destruction's it states to mount it so the wording is read from left to right, or in other words turn it through 90' so that the servo wires point at the tail

Happy flyin

04-07-2009, 08:53 AM	#1
linkahwai Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden, Malaysia	Belt CP upgrade After a crash, broken rotor head, gyro failure and one servo failure, I decide to go for upgrade. After a long wait for parts arrive, almost finish with Belt CP upgrade: CopterX head + tail SG-90 servo x4 Telebee GR302-AD gyro GF blade x2 CopterX tail blade I was using DX6i+AR6200 since some time ago. Still thinking if need to get a 30A ESC or BEC, what do you guys think? Also, a better look Trex canopy I will post some pictures soon. __________________ Trex 250: RCM-BL250, RCE-BL15X, DS410, GP750+S3154, AR6100 Trex 450 Pro: RCM-BL430SP, RCE-BL35X, DS410M, GP750+DS520, AR6100E Trex 500 ESP: RCM-BL500L, RCE-BL60G, DS510, GP750+DS520, AR6200 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-07-2009, 11:45 AM	#3
Ian 777 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Staffordshire UK	They will make it a much better heli and easier to learn on, I would think about a dts mod as well as this does remove slop from the system. with these upgrades your heli will fly nearly like a Trex, certainly far better than stock. I would stick with it till the frame is knacked and then think about a better clone. Good Idea to upgrade the ESC though __________________ Trex 500 ESP Phoenix Flasher 450 Frankenbelt

04-07-2009, 11:56 AM	#4
Heli Yea! Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Denver, CO	+1 The stock ESC is really bad and can catch fire at any random time. Mine was on fire 2 minutes out of the box giving it a test run in the living room! __________________ -Heli Yea! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Master of: the living room, stockTx, mechanical setup and, the obvious! Belt'ish CP MG90's,704A/S3114,CX head,HDX3550/Align 35G/HDX 500 SAH:-) HS-82MG's,G401B/BMS-631MG,HDX850/Align 60G,6s lipo /Hirobo Shuttle ZX .30 /Walkera 4#3B/Falcon40/Lama V3 DX6iThank you kind gents! :-)

04-07-2009, 12:12 PM	#5
another_finn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2007 Location: Finland	If you're running an AR6200 and SG90s on the stock ESC, my first move would be to get a decent switching UBEC as soon as humanly possible. The ESC itself is fine on the stock motor, it's the BEC part that tends to overheat and catch fire. Spend $25 on a CCBEC now and it will take whatever you can dish out for years to come. When you decide to upgrade the motor, it will definitely be time to change the ESC too. The stock 25 A unit is just barely enough for the Esky 3800 kV, but nothing more than that. When you do upgrade, you might as well go for 40 A. The difference in price and weight is almost negligible, and you will have a lot more options for the motor. __________________ Mika T-Rex 600NP, T-Rex 500 ESP, HDX500 SE V2, HDX450 SE V3, T-Rex/Outrage SE V2, EXI450, T-Rex 250, CopterX/Guru-Z hybrid, HBFP separates, Lama V4, 2 x Walkera 4#3B

04-08-2009, 07:23 AM	#6
linkahwai Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden, Malaysia	Is hobbywing 30A ESC with built-in BEC a good choice for upgrade? __________________ Trex 250: RCM-BL250, RCE-BL15X, DS410, GP750+S3154, AR6100 Trex 450 Pro: RCM-BL430SP, RCE-BL35X, DS410M, GP750+DS520, AR6100E Trex 500 ESP: RCM-BL500L, RCE-BL60G, DS510, GP750+DS520, AR6200 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-07-2009, 10:37 AM	#2
Sundance_kid Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manila	wow nice upgrades ESC recommended to be change ASAP go for 40A with switching BEC or separate BEC much better

04-08-2009, 07:30 AM	#7
another_finn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2007 Location: Finland	IMHO that's a pretty marginal improvement with its linear 2A BEC. You would be better off with the latest version of the 40A model - it has a built-in 3A switching BEC, which alone is worth the price difference. __________________ Mika T-Rex 600NP, T-Rex 500 ESP, HDX500 SE V2, HDX450 SE V3, T-Rex/Outrage SE V2, EXI450, T-Rex 250, CopterX/Guru-Z hybrid, HBFP separates, Lama V4, 2 x Walkera 4#3B

04-08-2009, 08:32 AM	#8
helihathnofury Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Winchester, England	+1 Mika. Mine works very well on the 450, running a Scorpion 2221/8 and barely gets warm. Skip __________________ Happy Heli-days !!!!!!!! Skip To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. T-Rex 450Sport, T-Rex 600NSP, OS50, DS610s GY401/S9254, KO Propo PDS2364,KBDDs, Align 600Ds, MultiGov Pro DX7/AR7000, Phoenix +DX6i Blade mSR

04-08-2009, 08:51 AM	#9
Heli Yea! Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Denver, CO	+2 Hobbywings are very good and you should definitely get the one that has the 3a switching BEC! I personally run the Align 35a with a Hobbywing UBEC (3a external switching type BEC) and my ESC never even gets warm running a power hungry motor. The motor gets a little warm though. It would also have the amps needed to easily upgrade motors without having to upgrade the ESC! __________________ -Heli Yea! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Master of: the living room, stockTx, mechanical setup and, the obvious! Belt'ish CP MG90's,704A/S3114,CX head,HDX3550/Align 35G/HDX 500 SAH:-) HS-82MG's,G401B/BMS-631MG,HDX850/Align 60G,6s lipo /Hirobo Shuttle ZX .30 /Walkera 4#3B/Falcon40/Lama V3 DX6iThank you kind gents! :-)

04-09-2009, 09:39 AM	#11
helihathnofury Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Winchester, England	I use 2450mAh LiPos and get around 7 to 8 mins before the monitor goes off. Skip __________________ Happy Heli-days !!!!!!!! Skip To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. T-Rex 450Sport, T-Rex 600NSP, OS50, DS610s GY401/S9254, KO Propo PDS2364,KBDDs, Align 600Ds, MultiGov Pro DX7/AR7000, Phoenix +DX6i Blade mSR

04-20-2009, 03:47 PM	#12
linkahwai Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden, Malaysia	Here are some pictures of upgraded belt cp Attached Thumbnails __________________ Trex 250: RCM-BL250, RCE-BL15X, DS410, GP750+S3154, AR6100 Trex 450 Pro: RCM-BL430SP, RCE-BL35X, DS410M, GP750+DS520, AR6100E Trex 500 ESP: RCM-BL500L, RCE-BL60G, DS510, GP750+DS520, AR6200 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-20-2009, 03:55 PM	#13
Ian 777 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Staffordshire UK	Well thats going to fly better have you flown it much __________________ Trex 500 ESP Phoenix Flasher 450 Frankenbelt

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