Avant RC previews the Aurora Ultimate - Page 4

WillJames · 09-20-2006, 06:40 AM

There was a crowd creaming over Marcus's Aurora at Black Sheep. The heli is one of the best looking helis I have ever seen, everybody says that it is gorgeous!!

Randy "lakespinner2" took this photo, his gallery is http://www.flyupyours.com/bsheep/index.htm#67

R-4-L · 09-20-2006, 06:48 AM

thats the hardest tease right there,,,, are there different gear ratios available? like for a ys or an os engine?

WillJames · 09-20-2006, 06:57 AM

I have no idea Ali, but I do know what you see in the pic above is one Avant and one Aurora both with the programmable head. Man they are HOT looking.

Kinda like a Ferrari, they look fast and furious even sitting on the table with the blades folded.

Kinger · 09-20-2006, 11:27 AM

If you guys like looking at the machine, I'd check out www.teambob00.com. Robert has taken a number of pictures of his machine and posted them on the site. Certainly a beautiful machine to look at.

Augusto · 09-20-2006, 01:01 PM

That picture is gorgeous. It seems that lately people have been taking very artistic photos at funflys.
I like Marcus' Red Ninja canopy style so much that I had mine painted very similar.

Augusto.

tchavei · 09-20-2006, 01:06 PM

Hi

The anounced ratio is 8.25 which seems to be ideal for both OS and YS engines. I'm using the 8.45 ratio on my Freya and YS91 and although powerful, I feel the engine is screaming way too much for my taste. The 7.92 ratio is too low for the YS to get in its right powerband.

Tony

mevigavant · 09-20-2006, 01:08 PM

I'm building one right now. It's such an easy build it's not even funny. I had the whole thing together in a couple of hours( minus the tailboom assy.) I have very little room to manuver the heli with the boom on. My favorite part of the build was installing the fan hub. I screwed it on and didn't even bother to dial indicate it. I like the fact that I can drop the engine and not have to remove the clutch stack like I do in my Avant FX. the fan shroud is sweet looking also. I have the VH on but it looks like if you run the OEM head there is no need to cut the shroud. I only had to remove a little bit of it to clear the hatori header. The T/T ends are solid. There is no play what-so-ever in the ends. The tail gears are super smooth and spin with no effort at all. The oneway is sick. This thing looks like it was German engineered. I compare it to the Hirobo oneway only better. It spins just as effortless as the tailgears. I'll let everyone know once I get some stick time on it.

WillJames · 09-20-2006, 06:04 PM

Where did you get it mevigavant?

NolanManley · 09-20-2006, 07:04 PM

There are a few of them out for survey as Augusto posted over on RR.

I'm sure it will be one heck of a machine.

Augusto is not known for doing things shoddy.

mevigavant · 09-20-2006, 10:13 PM

I was one of the few lucky customers that was able to get one. The production version is going to be of the hook.

Augusto · 09-20-2006, 11:12 PM

mevigavant was one of our first customers when we released the first avant FX.
We wanted to rely not only on pro-pilots but also on regular customers that were knowleageable enough from experiences with many brands of helis to be critical of problems they could find so early on we contacted several customers and made them a part of the testing program. People like Juan (mevigavant) or Tony Chen or the Teambob00 crew to name a few are simply invaluable to us.

There are many Auroras out there being tested by regular customers in many local fields. We are fine tuning parts based on their feedback. Regular customers introduce a lot of variables and less than ideal parameters that make their feedback more valuable from the point of view of foolproofing a kit than the one you get from the pro-pilots. Pro-pilots are used to fix things and go fly the helis. We get a lot of feedback from them that has more to do with the performance or different configurations they test and so forth as well as improvements ideas from their experience.

Between the two we get a wide range of feedback that's invaluable accross the whole spectrum and we are thankful to them all for their hard work.

Augusto.

MD3DNT · 09-20-2006, 11:58 PM

i doubt you could choose me as a test pilot augusto

mevigavant · 09-21-2006, 12:49 AM

It's also much easier to remove the main gear now. you no longer have to remove a side plate to remove the main gear. the engine now comes out without having to remove the bottom plate.

WillJames · 09-21-2006, 03:45 AM

Sounds like you are thoroughly testing the machine, that is GREAT for the end users!!

R-4-L · 09-21-2006, 04:06 AM

I take it that the aurora is considerably different from the avant EFX mod.. I thought that most parts were going to be the same as the mod.. this is good.

mevigavant · 09-21-2006, 11:30 AM

Some of the parts are the same i.e bearing blocks, bottom plate, head, and mainshaft. Everything else is different.

Augusto · 09-21-2006, 12:05 PM

Parts that are the same are the CCPM system, the Programmable head, the main shaft, the bearing blocks and spacers. the motor mount.

Other than that all carbon parts without exception are different, the whole drive train such as pinion, bell, clutch, main and constant drive gears, pickup gear, tailgears, torque tube system, tailcase, tail blade related mechanisms, sprag clutch system, main hubs, main sleeve, input and out shaft, tail output shaft, tailhub, bladegrips, fan, fanshroud, fanhub and too many more parts to list here are all new.

Augusto.

MD3DNT · 09-24-2006, 04:08 AM

why no header tank on the aurora?

WillJames · 09-24-2006, 05:43 AM

Probably because they are usign a Cline regulator or a pumped engine with a Fuel Magnet. No header tank needed. Header tanks are all but gone from 90 sized machines these days due to pumped or regulated motors coupled witht he fuel magnet which is fantastic.

bob00 · 09-24-2006, 09:28 AM

Header tank not needed because...

- as Will explained, the fuel magnet is the preferred way to go for pumped / regulated 90 sized motors

- the fuel tank is huge (22oz I think). I get 10 - 11 min per tank compared to 8 - 9 min I've grown accustomed to with other 90 sized helis. I find no need to carry the extra fuel

- rear mounted tank makes it easy to see how much fuel is left

One could be installed if wanted, but most will get by fine without it.

- Rob

09-20-2006, 06:40 AM	#61
WillJames HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	There was a crowd creaming over Marcus's Aurora at Black Sheep. The heli is one of the best looking helis I have ever seen, everybody says that it is gorgeous!! Randy "lakespinner2" took this photo, his gallery is http://www.flyupyours.com/bsheep/index.htm#67 __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-20-2006, 06:57 AM	#63
WillJames HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	I have no idea Ali, but I do know what you see in the pic above is one Avant and one Aurora both with the programmable head. Man they are HOT looking. Kinda like a Ferrari, they look fast and furious even sitting on the table with the blades folded. __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-20-2006, 11:27 AM	#64
Kinger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Columbus, OH	If you guys like looking at the machine, I'd check out www.teambob00.com. Robert has taken a number of pictures of his machine and posted them on the site. Certainly a beautiful machine to look at. __________________ T-Rex 700 with Align 91HZ, Funtech, Rail 696's, Rail 106 tails, Beast X on the DX8.

09-20-2006, 01:06 PM	#66
tchavei Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portugal	Hi The anounced ratio is 8.25 which seems to be ideal for both OS and YS engines. I'm using the 8.45 ratio on my Freya and YS91 and although powerful, I feel the engine is screaming way too much for my taste. The 7.92 ratio is too low for the YS to get in its right powerband. Tony __________________ "Patience and perfection usually walk side by side..."

09-20-2006, 06:04 PM	#68
WillJames HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	Where did you get it mevigavant? __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-20-2006, 06:48 AM	#62
R-4-L Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: N/A	thats the hardest tease right there,,,, are there different gear ratios available? like for a ys or an os engine?

09-20-2006, 01:01 PM	#65
Augusto Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CA	That picture is gorgeous. It seems that lately people have been taking very artistic photos at funflys. I like Marcus' Red Ninja canopy style so much that I had mine painted very similar. Augusto.

09-20-2006, 01:08 PM	#67
mevigavant Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nj	I'm building one right now. It's such an easy build it's not even funny. I had the whole thing together in a couple of hours( minus the tailboom assy.) I have very little room to manuver the heli with the boom on. My favorite part of the build was installing the fan hub. I screwed it on and didn't even bother to dial indicate it. I like the fact that I can drop the engine and not have to remove the clutch stack like I do in my Avant FX. the fan shroud is sweet looking also. I have the VH on but it looks like if you run the OEM head there is no need to cut the shroud. I only had to remove a little bit of it to clear the hatori header. The T/T ends are solid. There is no play what-so-ever in the ends. The tail gears are super smooth and spin with no effort at all. The oneway is sick. This thing looks like it was German engineered. I compare it to the Hirobo oneway only better. It spins just as effortless as the tailgears. I'll let everyone know once I get some stick time on it.

09-20-2006, 07:04 PM	#69
NolanManley Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Daleville AL (Ft Rucker)	There are a few of them out for survey as Augusto posted over on RR. I'm sure it will be one heck of a machine. Augusto is not known for doing things shoddy. __________________ Album To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Trex 700E & N, Stratus, Atom, Knight 3D, Vibe 50, & Protos. RREMODELS.COM, Magnum Fuel, KBDD intl Products To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-20-2006, 10:13 PM	#70
mevigavant Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nj	I was one of the few lucky customers that was able to get one. The production version is going to be of the hook.

09-20-2006, 11:12 PM	#71
Augusto Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CA	mevigavant was one of our first customers when we released the first avant FX. We wanted to rely not only on pro-pilots but also on regular customers that were knowleageable enough from experiences with many brands of helis to be critical of problems they could find so early on we contacted several customers and made them a part of the testing program. People like Juan (mevigavant) or Tony Chen or the Teambob00 crew to name a few are simply invaluable to us. There are many Auroras out there being tested by regular customers in many local fields. We are fine tuning parts based on their feedback. Regular customers introduce a lot of variables and less than ideal parameters that make their feedback more valuable from the point of view of foolproofing a kit than the one you get from the pro-pilots. Pro-pilots are used to fix things and go fly the helis. We get a lot of feedback from them that has more to do with the performance or different configurations they test and so forth as well as improvements ideas from their experience. Between the two we get a wide range of feedback that's invaluable accross the whole spectrum and we are thankful to them all for their hard work. Augusto.

09-20-2006, 11:58 PM	#72
MD3DNT Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: france	i doubt you could choose me as a test pilot augusto

09-21-2006, 12:49 AM	#73
mevigavant Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nj	It's also much easier to remove the main gear now. you no longer have to remove a side plate to remove the main gear. the engine now comes out without having to remove the bottom plate.

09-21-2006, 03:45 AM	#74
WillJames HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	Sounds like you are thoroughly testing the machine, that is GREAT for the end users!! __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-21-2006, 04:06 AM	#75
R-4-L Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: N/A	I take it that the aurora is considerably different from the avant EFX mod.. I thought that most parts were going to be the same as the mod.. this is good.

09-21-2006, 11:30 AM	#76
mevigavant Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nj	Some of the parts are the same i.e bearing blocks, bottom plate, head, and mainshaft. Everything else is different.

09-21-2006, 12:05 PM	#77
Augusto Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CA	Parts that are the same are the CCPM system, the Programmable head, the main shaft, the bearing blocks and spacers. the motor mount. Other than that all carbon parts without exception are different, the whole drive train such as pinion, bell, clutch, main and constant drive gears, pickup gear, tailgears, torque tube system, tailcase, tail blade related mechanisms, sprag clutch system, main hubs, main sleeve, input and out shaft, tail output shaft, tailhub, bladegrips, fan, fanshroud, fanhub and too many more parts to list here are all new. Augusto.

09-24-2006, 04:08 AM	#78
MD3DNT Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: france	why no header tank on the aurora?

09-24-2006, 05:43 AM	#79
WillJames HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	Probably because they are usign a Cline regulator or a pumped engine with a Fuel Magnet. No header tank needed. Header tanks are all but gone from 90 sized machines these days due to pumped or regulated motors coupled witht he fuel magnet which is fantastic. __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-24-2006, 09:28 AM	#80
bob00 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada	Header tank not needed because... - as Will explained, the fuel magnet is the preferred way to go for pumped / regulated 90 sized motors - the fuel tank is huge (22oz I think). I get 10 - 11 min per tank compared to 8 - 9 min I've grown accustomed to with other 90 sized helis. I find no need to carry the extra fuel - rear mounted tank makes it easy to see how much fuel is left One could be installed if wanted, but most will get by fine without it. - Rob

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