Scorpion HK-5020-450KV

Cameron_S · 01-09-2010, 08:23 PM

Looks like Scorpion has a new motor for 2010 designed for 90 size electric helicopters. This looks like it will be a powerhouse. I believe this debuted at the AMA expo.

This is a big motor going by the listed dimensions. Weighs ~15 oz and has a diameter close the size of a coke can!

Specifications

Stator Diameter 50 mm (1.56 in)
Stator Thickness 20 mm (0.787 in)
No. of Stator Arms 12
Magnet Poles 10
Motor Wind 16 Turn Delta
Motor Wire 16-Strand 0.33 mm
Motor Kv 450KV RPM / Volt
No-Load Current (Io/10V) 1.21 Amps
Motor Resistance (Rm) 0.019 Ohms
Max Continuous Current 85 Amps
Max Continuous Power 3770 Watts
Weight 445 Grams (15.05 oz)
Outside Diameter 59.8 mm (2.35 in)
Shaft Diameter 5.98 mm (0.24 in)
Body Length 51.0 mm (2.0 in)
Overall Shaft Length 84.6 mm (3.35 in)
Max Lipo Cell 12s
Peak Current 120A (5 seconds)
Peal Power 5320 Watts (5 seconds)

http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...0/hk_5020_450/

MarkFlysHelis · 01-09-2010, 08:53 PM

59.8mm wide. That'll be a tight squeeze on the 700's. frames 60mm apart.

Dogdocphil · 01-09-2010, 09:12 PM

OMG that looks totally sick! I suppose it would fit between the side frames. I am sure they made it with the TRex 700 in mind. With all the activity of people making their own 700E's with conversion kits, it only has to be a matter of time before Align comes out with their own kit!

Al Austria · 01-09-2010, 11:28 PM

DAYUUMMM! Sick is right!

helicraze · 01-10-2010, 12:33 AM

I wonder if this is the one Mr Mel tested? I think he said it did not really produce good results other than suck power.

Most likely the weak link in setups are the lipos and not the motors.

QYT001 · 01-10-2010, 04:58 AM

This one is cool Scorpion HK-5035-500 with 5400W

http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...0/hk_5035_500/

Cameron_S · 01-10-2010, 09:29 AM

Yes that was another they debuted but its more suited towards Aerial Photography ships with heavy payloads. Plus it weighs a lot too.

Dogdocphil · 01-10-2010, 06:13 PM

I think this motor will not fit in a TRex because it is wider than the side frame spacing by 1mm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by QYT001

This one is cool Scorpion HK-5035-500 with 5400W

http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...0/hk_5035_500/

QYT001 · 01-11-2010, 03:41 AM

Did you, measure it? Outside Diameter for this motor - 61.0 mm (2.4 in)

BobbySmith · 01-11-2010, 01:13 PM

That is a Hoss!!

Taipan · 01-12-2010, 06:51 AM

I measured my 700 frames, they're 61mm apart. This motor will fit.

1banger · 01-12-2010, 07:26 AM

It's gonna be a tight fit for an outrunner. Can't wait to see someone mount one of these and see how it goes...

QYT001 · 01-12-2010, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taipan

I measured my 700 frames, they're 61mm apart. This motor will fit.

I measured my 700 frames, they're 60.6 mm apart.

Dr.Ben · 01-12-2010, 11:02 PM

1.54 pound motor weight. HK4035 is 0.88 pounds.
32mm mounting hole spacing.
Not really a drop in installation for the current motor mounts out there.

Ben Minor

Cameron_S · 01-12-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Ben

1.54 pound motor weight. HK4035 is 0.88 pounds.
32mm mounting hole spacing.
Not really a drop in installation for the current motor mounts out there.

Ben Minor

Which one? Where did you get the 32mm?

Dr.Ben · 01-12-2010, 11:12 PM

The 50mm motor's dimensions are under the specs on Scorpion's website.

The HK4035 series motors and the Neu's are 25mm spacing. The Pyros are 30mm. Thus this new motor shares no common motor mount spacing with what is out there now unless the holes perpendicular to the long axis of the model are slotted in that direction.

Ben Minor

Cameron_S · 01-13-2010, 07:50 AM

I sent an email to scorpion and got this back.

Quote:

Dear Cameron:

Thank you for your email. The HK 5020-450 is for the bigger 90 size helicopters and now available for backorder. It is work on Trex 700E conversion. Both HK5020 and HK4035 can both use on 700 class, but the HK5020 is especially design for conversion, and have higher torque and power, but heavier than HK4035 series. The hole spacing of HK5020-450KV motor is 32mm, and I have attached a dimension graph for your reference or you can go to http://www.scorpionsystem.com/files/..._dimension.pdf

HK5020-450
http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...0/hk_5020_450/

Best Regards
Richard
Scorpion Power System
www.scorpionsystem.com

Dogdocphil · 01-13-2010, 07:23 PM

As we all know this is an outrunner! I guess I dont want to be the first one to try this motor. The tolerances will be VERY small. BUT if anyone uses this motor, Please post. I am two to three weeks out from getting my Neu Motor. I will fly the Hyperion 4035-400 this weekend and post my results.

Cameron_S · 01-13-2010, 07:35 PM

Well the fact that is 32mm spacing a custom motor mount will have to be used.

BobbySmith · 01-13-2010, 07:44 PM

Should be able to use the Pyro mount and make it work

Man dunno about this motor more torque means harder on packs and more weight to carry around

01-09-2010, 08:23 PM	#1
Cameron_S Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida	Scorpion HK-5020-450KV Looks like Scorpion has a new motor for 2010 designed for 90 size electric helicopters. This looks like it will be a powerhouse. I believe this debuted at the AMA expo. This is a big motor going by the listed dimensions. Weighs ~15 oz and has a diameter close the size of a coke can! Specifications Stator Diameter 50 mm (1.56 in) Stator Thickness 20 mm (0.787 in) No. of Stator Arms 12 Magnet Poles 10 Motor Wind 16 Turn Delta Motor Wire 16-Strand 0.33 mm Motor Kv 450KV RPM / Volt No-Load Current (Io/10V) 1.21 Amps Motor Resistance (Rm) 0.019 Ohms Max Continuous Current 85 Amps Max Continuous Power 3770 Watts Weight 445 Grams (15.05 oz) Outside Diameter 59.8 mm (2.35 in) Shaft Diameter 5.98 mm (0.24 in) Body Length 51.0 mm (2.0 in) Overall Shaft Length 84.6 mm (3.35 in) Max Lipo Cell 12s Peak Current 120A (5 seconds) Peal Power 5320 Watts (5 seconds) http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...0/hk_5020_450/

01-09-2010, 08:53 PM	#2
MarkFlysHelis Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida	59.8mm wide. That'll be a tight squeeze on the 700's. frames 60mm apart. __________________ 700E DFC V3 Quantum 4530, 8917HV,CC120HV,BeastX TREX700LE- 105HZR,Hatori,8917HV,switch-glo/BeastX Synergy E5- Pyro 650 on 10s, 8917HV, CC120, BeastX

01-09-2010, 11:28 PM	#4
Al Austria Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gainesville, FL	DAYUUMMM! Sick is right! __________________ ~Allan Austria

01-11-2010, 01:13 PM	#10
BobbySmith Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida	That is a Hoss!! __________________ B Smith To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-12-2010, 07:26 AM	#12
1banger Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chesapeake VA	It's gonna be a tight fit for an outrunner. Can't wait to see someone mount one of these and see how it goes... __________________

01-09-2010, 09:12 PM	#3
Dogdocphil Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bay Shore, New York	OMG that looks totally sick! I suppose it would fit between the side frames. I am sure they made it with the TRex 700 in mind. With all the activity of people making their own 700E's with conversion kits, it only has to be a matter of time before Align comes out with their own kit!

01-10-2010, 12:33 AM	#5
helicraze Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria, Australia	I wonder if this is the one Mr Mel tested? I think he said it did not really produce good results other than suck power. Most likely the weak link in setups are the lipos and not the motors.

01-10-2010, 04:58 AM	#6
QYT001 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow	This one is cool Scorpion HK-5035-500 with 5400W http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalo...0/hk_5035_500/

01-10-2010, 09:29 AM	#7
Cameron_S Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida	Yes that was another they debuted but its more suited towards Aerial Photography ships with heavy payloads. Plus it weighs a lot too.

01-11-2010, 03:41 AM	#9
QYT001 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow	Did you, measure it? Outside Diameter for this motor - 61.0 mm (2.4 in)

01-12-2010, 06:51 AM	#11
Taipan Registered Users Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia	I measured my 700 frames, they're 61mm apart. This motor will fit.

01-12-2010, 11:02 PM	#14
Dr.Ben Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Richmond, VA	1.54 pound motor weight. HK4035 is 0.88 pounds. 32mm mounting hole spacing. Not really a drop in installation for the current motor mounts out there. Ben Minor

01-12-2010, 11:12 PM	#16
Dr.Ben Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Richmond, VA	The 50mm motor's dimensions are under the specs on Scorpion's website. The HK4035 series motors and the Neu's are 25mm spacing. The Pyros are 30mm. Thus this new motor shares no common motor mount spacing with what is out there now unless the holes perpendicular to the long axis of the model are slotted in that direction. Ben Minor

01-13-2010, 07:23 PM	#18
Dogdocphil Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bay Shore, New York	As we all know this is an outrunner! I guess I dont want to be the first one to try this motor. The tolerances will be VERY small. BUT if anyone uses this motor, Please post. I am two to three weeks out from getting my Neu Motor. I will fly the Hyperion 4035-400 this weekend and post my results.

01-13-2010, 07:35 PM	#19
Cameron_S Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida	Well the fact that is 32mm spacing a custom motor mount will have to be used.

01-13-2010, 07:44 PM	#20
BobbySmith Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida	Should be able to use the Pyro mount and make it work Man dunno about this motor more torque means harder on packs and more weight to carry around __________________ B Smith To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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