Videos: MrMel's VBar 101 instruction videos - Page 4

OICU812 · 03-25-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy

I have seen your Jive/Jazz video and use that method on my Jazz 40 but one question seems to have never quite been answered.. How much room below the maximum throttle limits does the Jazz gov need to govern properly in your experience?..

Jazz-Jive you should be in the 75-85% range is most optimum.

MrMel · 03-25-2010, 01:48 PM

Shawn is right, 75% for older packs, even 70%, for newer 35-45C packs you can run higher 80-85% and still have perfect performance.

In high ambient temps (if you run into temp problem) stay above 80.

Sandy · 03-25-2010, 04:02 PM

Thanks all.. I have been hitting it a little hard with 90 using those VX G 35C Hyperions.. Will drop it back..

Slyster · 03-27-2010, 07:16 PM

Question. Could you have these available in WMV for download like Finless videos? HF host? Your host? Or I even have tons of room on slyster.com

TheBum · 03-27-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyster

Question. Could you have these available in WMV for download like Finless videos? HF host? Your host? Or I even have tons of room on slyster.com

I, for one (and many other Mac users, I'm sure), am glad to have them as MP4, so please don't stop the MP4s if you do decide to do WMV. I end up converting Finless's WMVs to MP4 anyway.

Slyster · 03-27-2010, 07:38 PM

I have a mac. Quicktime plays WMV perfectly. I think I installed Flip4mac or something a while back.

TheBum · 03-27-2010, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slyster

I have a mac. Quicktime plays WMV perfectly. I think I installed Flip4mac or something a while back.

I've had problems with Flip4Mac crashing Quicktime Player on certain videos (none of them from HF), so I prefer not to use it. I'm curious as to why you want them as WMV?

Slyster · 03-27-2010, 07:50 PM

I use both mac and windows.. and not really knowledgeable with the various media formats.. can windows media player play MP4? Then I'd for sure say that.

TheBum · 03-27-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyster

I use both.. and not really familiar with the formats.. can windows media player play MP4? Then I'd for sure say that.

MP4 is an industry standard, WMV is a Microsoft "standard". I believe that WMP will play MP4s.

MrMel · 03-28-2010, 07:14 AM

I'm planning of making a torrent file for "complete download" when I am done with the series.

Sidenote; Use VLC player on Mac to play Wmv

MrMel · 03-30-2010, 02:50 PM

Episode 23 & 24 is up, Tail Tweaking and PID controllers.

YouTube

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These two episodes might raise questions for many, just fire away, its hard to cover everything on one shoot of video

ChrisH · 03-30-2010, 06:22 PM

Watching right now, very nice analogy to the faucet

jimheliboy · 04-09-2010, 07:39 PM

Thank you MR. Mel. It is people like you and Finless and many many others that make this hobby grow at it's present rate. With all your expert advice and support we can't go wrong. Well, maybe with the Banker at times.
Again Thank you ALL!
Jim

Laurens · 04-13-2010, 03:10 PM

Thanks Fredrik. I really learned a lot from your vids, but I'm still not done with my Vbar on the Stratus.

Another question from me is:

Cyclic ring is not something I necesarilly want to get as lot as throw on my swashplate as possible, but what I need to get about 11 degrees of cyclic pitch. Is this assumption right?

ZuvieleTeile · 04-21-2010, 11:46 AM

Hhhmm, what do mean with cyclic pitch.Do mean the cyclic gain from the calculator or the cyclic angle of the swashplate?

Cheers
ZT

MrMel · 04-21-2010, 11:51 AM

Cyclic pitch = degree deflection on the swash.

I set it to 11 degree or so, even if I can get more without binding you will never ever need more inflight (blades stall at a total of 17-18 degree anyway)

TheBum · 04-21-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMel

Cyclic pitch = degree deflection on the swash.

I set it to 11 degree or so, even if I can get more without binding you will never ever need more inflight (blades stall at a total of 17-18 degree anyway)

I didn't bother even measuring cyclic pitch. I just set the response in the VBar software to whatever felt good. I've never measured what angle that is.

MrMel · 04-21-2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

I didn't bother even measuring cyclic pitch. I just set the response in the VBar software to whatever felt good. I've never measured what angle that is.

Only really needed when you do a heli that is "unknown", i.e. like I did my Aurora in the videos
When VBar came out I flew some vicked setup before we knew how to set them up correctly

ChrisH · 04-21-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBum

I didn't bother even measuring cyclic pitch. I just set the response in the VBar software to whatever felt good. I've never measured what angle that is.

Same. I set up the Logo with the preset and then increased the rates to my liking. No need to waste time measuring when you know you may change it anyway

Although I can see if we didn't have a preset you'd definitely want to measure pitch.

Slyster · 04-21-2010, 05:45 PM

I found I couldn't even measure cyclic. Isn't it like trying to measure tail pitch with a HH gyro?... ie impossible?

+1 for doing it totally by feel too!

03-25-2010, 01:48 PM	#62
MrMel V-BAR Guru Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lidingo/Stockholm, Sweden	Shawn is right, 75% for older packs, even 70%, for newer 35-45C packs you can run higher 80-85% and still have perfect performance. In high ambient temps (if you run into temp problem) stay above 80. __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-25-2010, 04:02 PM	#63
Sandy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Okla	Thanks all.. I have been hitting it a little hard with 90 using those VX G 35C Hyperions.. Will drop it back.. __________________ TDRx2 Mikado 600SE

03-27-2010, 07:16 PM	#64
Slyster Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maplewood, MN	Question. Could you have these available in WMV for download like Finless videos? HF host? Your host? Or I even have tons of room on slyster.com __________________ It's not just a hobby... it's a lifestyle! Outrage Fusion & 550 / Goblin 700 / SK540 / Kontronik / DX8 / Quantum / RJX / 4010 Duo Pete Team Outrage.

03-27-2010, 07:38 PM	#66
Slyster Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maplewood, MN	I have a mac. Quicktime plays WMV perfectly. I think I installed Flip4mac or something a while back. __________________ It's not just a hobby... it's a lifestyle! Outrage Fusion & 550 / Goblin 700 / SK540 / Kontronik / DX8 / Quantum / RJX / 4010 Duo Pete Team Outrage.

03-27-2010, 07:50 PM	#68
Slyster Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maplewood, MN	I use both mac and windows.. and not really knowledgeable with the various media formats.. can windows media player play MP4? Then I'd for sure say that. __________________ It's not just a hobby... it's a lifestyle! Outrage Fusion & 550 / Goblin 700 / SK540 / Kontronik / DX8 / Quantum / RJX / 4010 Duo Pete Team Outrage.

03-28-2010, 07:14 AM	#70
MrMel V-BAR Guru Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lidingo/Stockholm, Sweden	I'm planning of making a torrent file for "complete download" when I am done with the series. Sidenote; Use VLC player on Mac to play Wmv __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-30-2010, 06:22 PM	#72
ChrisH HF Support Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA	Watching right now, very nice analogy to the faucet __________________ Edge Rotorblades Thor/Voltz Batteries 450 Pro V-Bar 130X

04-09-2010, 07:39 PM	#73
jimheliboy Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: wyoming	Thank You Thank you MR. Mel. It is people like you and Finless and many many others that make this hobby grow at it's present rate. With all your expert advice and support we can't go wrong. Well, maybe with the Banker at times. Again Thank you ALL! Jim

04-13-2010, 03:10 PM	#74
Laurens Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oegstgeest/ EHGR, the Netherlands	Thanks Fredrik. I really learned a lot from your vids, but I'm still not done with my Vbar on the Stratus. Another question from me is: Cyclic ring is not something I necesarilly want to get as lot as throw on my swashplate as possible, but what I need to get about 11 degrees of cyclic pitch. Is this assumption right? __________________ Team Thunder Tiger Europe 4RC.nl, Edge rotorblades, Scorpion systems To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-21-2010, 11:46 AM	#75
ZuvieleTeile Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida - US	Hhhmm, what do mean with cyclic pitch.Do mean the cyclic gain from the calculator or the cyclic angle of the swashplate? Cheers ZT

04-21-2010, 11:51 AM	#76
MrMel V-BAR Guru Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lidingo/Stockholm, Sweden	Cyclic pitch = degree deflection on the swash. I set it to 11 degree or so, even if I can get more without binding you will never ever need more inflight (blades stall at a total of 17-18 degree anyway) __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-21-2010, 05:45 PM	#80
Slyster Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maplewood, MN	I found I couldn't even measure cyclic. Isn't it like trying to measure tail pitch with a HH gyro?... ie impossible? +1 for doing it totally by feel too! __________________ It's not just a hobby... it's a lifestyle! Outrage Fusion & 550 / Goblin 700 / SK540 / Kontronik / DX8 / Quantum / RJX / 4010 Duo Pete Team Outrage.

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