Airwolf mSR - Page 3

N212LA · 03-30-2010, 04:01 AM

If you bind the MSR to the Spektrum DX6i and forget about the RTF. Well you get all you need in a great package plus the extra ch. For servos,etc,etc. I think Spektrum 7 even adds a 7th ch? So with this TX it would be possible to Retract the wheels on the carbon fiber triangle system used in larger TREX models,just scale it way down, etc. I have been fooling around with retracts on my wheels but have a long way to go as of printing. Got the metal head and added pitch. No worries even with 7 grams added and search lamp. etc.The brushless motor is too much of a glued hack job as of the moment. As with the "new" SRB Quark SG in the next year we might see, as demand has been so high, an MSR version 2, with bigger motors and perhaps not CP but with an sport mode/TH UP. When you are ready to start production and sell Ultimate airwolf esp. If you can use that high gloss paint that is amazing. Please add me to the list asap! Looking forwards! Will you have a fall release date planned? Cheers~Janick

AirwolfRCpilot · 03-30-2010, 03:52 PM

Sure the DX6i has 2 channels left but the problem is not the TX. The problem here is the RX which only has 4 channels and none of them is free. I look forward to see some footage of your mSR Airwolf airborne. By the way, how much did you adjust the pitch angle with the CNC head? It's good to share this info with Marcwolf since he lives at higher altitude.
As I mentioned before I'm afraid the Airwolf mSR ultimate will be a unique masterpiece since it takes so many hours to built the details (and due to my job I have so little time left), after all it's nothing but the original Airwolf mSR kit plus a plastic kit and some building skills. Anyway for your info the plastic parts I'm using do come from a AMT/ERTL 1/48 Scale plastic Airwolf model. So you might wanna give it a try yourself, it's a challenge

Varc · 03-30-2010, 06:49 PM

I've heard about bending the grips to give the blades some pitch. Have not had a chance to try it yet.
My brother in California still has my MSR.
I need to get a bone-stock MSR and get this Airwolf fuse for it and go from there.

N212LA · 03-31-2010, 03:38 AM

After I wrote that I got to thinking about the 5in1 mother~board being the problem. It was late. Well if nothing else, tell me what kind of paint you are using to get that high gloss as compared to the matt black color issued to us in the United States etc. Does it add much weight as well? For success in the retracts I think that if we can figure out the 5in1 issue the weight need not be a problem, if we address it with this infamous upgrade part the ("Cusker swash ring.") This cnc preformance booster can allow the msr to roll and loop adding another element to flight and making the most use of the motor. As for pitch, I can't use my large pitch gauge like I have for my Blade 400 etc. So a slight twist at the proper angle with a pair of long nose at the base and tip should give it a1mm or 2mm of positive pitch, on the downside the long term effect of this is strain on an already overworked motor etc. "Gourvelos" who added dual brushless and two escs adding 50% more power might have a solution for the extra ch. Yet his testing isn't completed. For the moment I am only using the larger 3.7 150 mAh (.5 Wh) 12c batteries. With the wheels you will soon find out that 110 mAh can't keep up.

Cheers in our work! Have been fooling around with the SR the past week and will carry on soon. Will need to order another body soon, If you can add that gloss paint no worries for the extra cost, as the testing is well taking its toll on the first body you were kind to send. Janick

AirwolfRCpilot · 04-01-2010, 06:25 AM

For the gloss version I use Revell N°7 with Revell thinner. The weight should be exactly the same, it's just a question of finding the right thickness of paint and using a professional spray gun (I use a badger airbrush gun connected to an industrial compressor).
If you want it with the gloss finish instead of the silkmatt finish used by my US companion feel free to ask, I can do this with no extra charge.
I'm glad you guys like the work I'm doing, it motivates me to go on and develop new stuff for these great micro heli's. Who knows E-flite is reading this and gives us an extra free channel and a little more power to make the mSR even more suitable for scale flying. Anyhow, they did a great job so far.

Varc · 04-01-2010, 10:33 AM

I think next thing we need from Eflite is an MSR-CP. I bet having collective pitch will help. Plus as you said slightly bigger motor, bigger battery, and perhaps a 6-1 receiver with blank channel for options?
EFLITE ARE YOU LISTING?

jdr00ejr · 04-01-2010, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcwolf

I think next thing we need from Eflite is an MSR-CP. I bet having collective pitch will help. Plus as you said slightly bigger motor, bigger battery, and perhaps a 6-1 receiver with blank channel for options?
EFLITE ARE YOU LISTING?

Well...I think I just stumbled across the next thing from E-Flite and I just posted about it in the MCX Forum. - Looks like they are bringing us in Mid-May a MCX2 - which has more powerful motors and comes stock with a 120 instead of a 110 battery. It also has a CX/CX2 style Body on the little guy.

Maybe they are listening on the next MSR for after that. ;-)

Varc · 04-01-2010, 11:34 AM

I don't think that's the MSR we're thinking of. I think it's bigger and closer to size of the Blade CP.
Would be nice though.

jdr00ejr · 04-01-2010, 11:51 AM

Not following you Marcwolf. If your reply was to me - my only point was - the next heli out of E-Flite is not an upgraded MSR - its an upgraded MCX due in Mid May. I like the looks of it though.

Looks like we keep waiting for an upgraded MSR.

Now - as for the topic of Airwolf Body - Anyone have any idea if this Airwolf Body will work on the MCX? With the MCX2 coming with more powerful engines, it might be fun to fit a Airwolf body to...

Varc · 04-01-2010, 01:58 PM

Back on topic, I'm not sure if an MSR body could work on an MCX. I think when MIA made his Hughes 500 fuselages, he made a separate kit for the MSR and MCX.

drshakalo · 04-01-2010, 05:30 PM

i wish they would make a CP version for the mSR im in the market for something like that. unfortunitaly im looking at a walkera CP for now. but if E-Flite comes out with one i would buy it....then put the airwolf body on it

N212LA · 04-03-2010, 02:47 AM

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Just a little lighted (msrwolf) video, more to the point, upon the installation of msr to the airwolf frame, it isa little unclear in the pics shown here of where to cut the landing skids as to properly let the pod and boom sit up nice inside the wolf's body. It is in the PDF you always send when ordered or asked, but of course I missed placed it, and think that the general public might be confused as I was, in the start of the project over the past two months. Cheers~Janick~

Looking ever forwards as we all are to the Ultimate msr airwolf! Looks like an amazing start with the afterburners in place and front landing testing..Super mini red leds should go into drilled out core of afterburner on port and starboard side!!

N212LA · 04-05-2010, 02:00 AM

www.bladehelis.com the new mcx2 with the lights,bigger motors and scale body with same swash as msr is on the way in middle May. I didn't pay it any mind until the past few days! Interesting!. Add the cusker mod etc and might have a winner? I think I might add the wolf body on it when it arrives to see? The gentlemans post a few up, might not be that far off (topic.) Esp. With the larger motors and over 4 leds with red/port green/starboard o the new msr sized bird* We have to wait a bit to see. I added an msr inverted video from our indoor Rc club here in sunny South Florida. I want to try this idea with the wolf~body on very soon too. Keep up the good work everybody! Has anyone added the aftermarket flybar mod/upgrade with their scale body on their msr yet? Be it wolf or be it MD500?

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drshakalo · 04-06-2010, 10:53 AM

HAHA inverted flite on the mSR........so im guessing that you turned the blades upside down. i really hope they do a CP version i mean they upgraded the mCX so why not

mediclavina · 04-06-2010, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drshakalo

HAHA inverted flite on the mSR........so im guessing that you turned the blades upside down. i really hope they do a CP version i mean they upgraded the mCX so why not

No, simply inverting the blades won't reverse the pitch angle. To use the stock MSR blades for inverted flight, it's either reverse rotor direction or switching the blade tips (punching a new hole on the opposite end for grips).

Varc · 04-07-2010, 06:59 PM

And mounting the skids on top so you can land upside down as well right? LOL!

N212LA · 04-11-2010, 02:26 AM

Message to all msr scale bodies owners. In keeping on our forum here ie; msr airwolf helicopter. Please post (any) photos you all have of your scale msr with the airwolf bodies on to share for all of us on this form plz

We had some nice pics in the first pages, but now that we all had some time to order,mod,fly with the scale air wolf attached etc... Bring in on

Also Mario's MD500 is interesting too, if you can stand the wait lol. I got mine in yellow, but have to say it just dosent compare to flying the dream aka (air wolf) looking forwards to next months release of the mcx V2. Anyone have inside info on msr Version 2? Etc or must we wait till Christmas 2011 lol! They sank so much in the SR that I think the msr next generation is on the back burner for the rest of the season? I'm sure I will find a way to hack off the mcx2 lights and add them to my wolf. Air wolf RC pilot is working on state of the art msr models as we read! So I think that pretty soon, Elflite will have to take notice, as they are missing out on just how many of us enjoy a small scale msr detailed body style. If Bell would approve.. Imagine what a 206 jet ranger~could scale to our little msr etc. More to the point post your pics and keep the thread alive. Janick

N212LA · 04-13-2010, 05:23 AM

Another collection of our infamous blade msr's scale bodies in classic fashion. More inflight videos to follow. Cheers and thanks for watching!

N212LA · 04-24-2010, 02:51 AM

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lutinplunder · 04-24-2010, 10:00 PM

Just joined the forums and saw this thread about the Airwolf body for the MSR, looks awesome, and was wondering how much would one cost?

03-30-2010, 04:01 AM	#41
N212LA Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Florida USA	MSR/Ult. Airwolf~~~~~~~~~~~~~G.V.S. Edition If you bind the MSR to the Spektrum DX6i and forget about the RTF. Well you get all you need in a great package plus the extra ch. For servos,etc,etc. I think Spektrum 7 even adds a 7th ch? So with this TX it would be possible to Retract the wheels on the carbon fiber triangle system used in larger TREX models,just scale it way down, etc. I have been fooling around with retracts on my wheels but have a long way to go as of printing. Got the metal head and added pitch. No worries even with 7 grams added and search lamp. etc.The brushless motor is too much of a glued hack job as of the moment. As with the "new" SRB Quark SG in the next year we might see, as demand has been so high, an MSR version 2, with bigger motors and perhaps not CP but with an sport mode/TH UP. When you are ready to start production and sell Ultimate airwolf esp. If you can use that high gloss paint that is amazing. Please add me to the list asap! Looking forwards! Will you have a fall release date planned? Cheers~Janick

03-30-2010, 06:49 PM	#43
Varc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Black Forest, Colorado	I've heard about bending the grips to give the blades some pitch. Have not had a chance to try it yet. My brother in California still has my MSR. I need to get a bone-stock MSR and get this Airwolf fuse for it and go from there. __________________ Blade MCPX BL Rakon MCPX BL Rakon MCPX V1 Rakon NCPX-TDR, DX7. Rakon Rep.

03-31-2010, 03:38 AM	#44
N212LA Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Florida USA	MSR Airwolf~~~~~~Ult.Airwolf G.V.S. Edition After I wrote that I got to thinking about the 5in1 mother~board being the problem. It was late. Well if nothing else, tell me what kind of paint you are using to get that high gloss as compared to the matt black color issued to us in the United States etc. Does it add much weight as well? For success in the retracts I think that if we can figure out the 5in1 issue the weight need not be a problem, if we address it with this infamous upgrade part the ("Cusker swash ring.") This cnc preformance booster can allow the msr to roll and loop adding another element to flight and making the most use of the motor. As for pitch, I can't use my large pitch gauge like I have for my Blade 400 etc. So a slight twist at the proper angle with a pair of long nose at the base and tip should give it a1mm or 2mm of positive pitch, on the downside the long term effect of this is strain on an already overworked motor etc. "Gourvelos" who added dual brushless and two escs adding 50% more power might have a solution for the extra ch. Yet his testing isn't completed. For the moment I am only using the larger 3.7 150 mAh (.5 Wh) 12c batteries. With the wheels you will soon find out that 110 mAh can't keep up. Cheers in our work! Have been fooling around with the SR the past week and will carry on soon. Will need to order another body soon, If you can add that gloss paint no worries for the extra cost, as the testing is well taking its toll on the first body you were kind to send. Janick

04-01-2010, 10:33 AM	#46
Varc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Black Forest, Colorado	I think next thing we need from Eflite is an MSR-CP. I bet having collective pitch will help. Plus as you said slightly bigger motor, bigger battery, and perhaps a 6-1 receiver with blank channel for options? EFLITE ARE YOU LISTING? __________________ Blade MCPX BL Rakon MCPX BL Rakon MCPX V1 Rakon NCPX-TDR, DX7. Rakon Rep.

04-01-2010, 11:34 AM	#48
Varc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Black Forest, Colorado	I don't think that's the MSR we're thinking of. I think it's bigger and closer to size of the Blade CP. Would be nice though. __________________ Blade MCPX BL Rakon MCPX BL Rakon MCPX V1 Rakon NCPX-TDR, DX7. Rakon Rep.

03-30-2010, 03:52 PM	#42
AirwolfRCpilot Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Belgium	Sure the DX6i has 2 channels left but the problem is not the TX. The problem here is the RX which only has 4 channels and none of them is free. I look forward to see some footage of your mSR Airwolf airborne. By the way, how much did you adjust the pitch angle with the CNC head? It's good to share this info with Marcwolf since he lives at higher altitude. As I mentioned before I'm afraid the Airwolf mSR ultimate will be a unique masterpiece since it takes so many hours to built the details (and due to my job I have so little time left), after all it's nothing but the original Airwolf mSR kit plus a plastic kit and some building skills. Anyway for your info the plastic parts I'm using do come from a AMT/ERTL 1/48 Scale plastic Airwolf model. So you might wanna give it a try yourself, it's a challenge

04-01-2010, 06:25 AM	#45
AirwolfRCpilot Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Belgium	For the gloss version I use Revell N°7 with Revell thinner. The weight should be exactly the same, it's just a question of finding the right thickness of paint and using a professional spray gun (I use a badger airbrush gun connected to an industrial compressor). If you want it with the gloss finish instead of the silkmatt finish used by my US companion feel free to ask, I can do this with no extra charge. I'm glad you guys like the work I'm doing, it motivates me to go on and develop new stuff for these great micro heli's. Who knows E-flite is reading this and gives us an extra free channel and a little more power to make the mSR even more suitable for scale flying. Anyhow, they did a great job so far.

04-01-2010, 11:51 AM	#49
jdr00ejr Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA	Not following you Marcwolf. If your reply was to me - my only point was - the next heli out of E-Flite is not an upgraded MSR - its an upgraded MCX due in Mid May. I like the looks of it though. Looks like we keep waiting for an upgraded MSR. Now - as for the topic of Airwolf Body - Anyone have any idea if this Airwolf Body will work on the MCX? With the MCX2 coming with more powerful engines, it might be fun to fit a Airwolf body to... __________________ Joshua ~Proverbs 3:5-6 ---------- DX6i, DX5e, MQX, MCX/2/T, HZ Champ, UM T-28, GWS Tiger Moth 400, Kadet Seniorita, Traxxas Slampede Maxx 4wd, Slash MT 2wd

04-01-2010, 01:58 PM	#50
Varc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Black Forest, Colorado	Back on topic, I'm not sure if an MSR body could work on an MCX. I think when MIA made his Hughes 500 fuselages, he made a separate kit for the MSR and MCX. __________________ Blade MCPX BL Rakon MCPX BL Rakon MCPX V1 Rakon NCPX-TDR, DX7. Rakon Rep.

04-01-2010, 05:30 PM	#51
drshakalo Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Manteno,IL	i wish they would make a CP version for the mSR im in the market for something like that. unfortunitaly im looking at a walkera CP for now. but if E-Flite comes out with one i would buy it....then put the airwolf body on it __________________ Blade 400/mSR/SR/Align 450 pro/Align 250/ Walkera 4#3b

04-06-2010, 10:53 AM	#54
drshakalo Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Manteno,IL	HAHA inverted flite on the mSR........so im guessing that you turned the blades upside down. i really hope they do a CP version i mean they upgraded the mCX so why not __________________ Blade 400/mSR/SR/Align 450 pro/Align 250/ Walkera 4#3b

04-07-2010, 06:59 PM	#56
Varc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Black Forest, Colorado	And mounting the skids on top so you can land upside down as well right? LOL! __________________ Blade MCPX BL Rakon MCPX BL Rakon MCPX V1 Rakon NCPX-TDR, DX7. Rakon Rep.

04-11-2010, 02:26 AM	#57
N212LA Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Florida USA	msr AIRWOLF photos... Message to all msr scale bodies owners. In keeping on our forum here ie; msr airwolf helicopter. Please post (any) photos you all have of your scale msr with the airwolf bodies on to share for all of us on this form plz We had some nice pics in the first pages, but now that we all had some time to order,mod,fly with the scale air wolf attached etc... Bring in on Also Mario's MD500 is interesting too, if you can stand the wait lol. I got mine in yellow, but have to say it just dosent compare to flying the dream aka (air wolf) looking forwards to next months release of the mcx V2. Anyone have inside info on msr Version 2? Etc or must we wait till Christmas 2011 lol! They sank so much in the SR that I think the msr next generation is on the back burner for the rest of the season? I'm sure I will find a way to hack off the mcx2 lights and add them to my wolf. Air wolf RC pilot is working on state of the art msr models as we read! So I think that pretty soon, Elflite will have to take notice, as they are missing out on just how many of us enjoy a small scale msr detailed body style. If Bell would approve.. Imagine what a 206 jet ranger~could scale to our little msr etc. More to the point post your pics and keep the thread alive. Janick

04-13-2010, 05:23 AM	#58
N212LA Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Florida USA	M$R Pictures,photos,prints,etc,etc.... Another collection of our infamous blade msr's scale bodies in classic fashion. More inflight videos to follow. Cheers and thanks for watching! Attached Thumbnails

04-24-2010, 10:00 PM	#60
lutinplunder Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tacoma, WA	Just joined the forums and saw this thread about the Airwolf body for the MSR, looks awesome, and was wondering how much would one cost?

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