Hyperion LBA-10 or FP V-Balancer?

jackheli · 12-11-2006, 06:21 PM

I am about to purchase a new balancer. Which one do you think is better to be used with an Astro 109?

WillJames · 12-11-2006, 06:51 PM

I would go with the V-Balance Module. They are working great with the 109's.

stevehonn · 12-12-2006, 01:28 AM

Another vote for the V Balancer, it can shut off the Astro 109 if cells go over-voltage making it a very safe setup for fast charging as well, for charges on the field I charge my FP 4900 packs at 8A, at this level it takes around 30 minutes to fully charge a pack.

Trooper Sam · 12-12-2006, 02:22 AM

The LBA10Net also does those things, but you'd probably have to make your own adapters for FP/TP 6S packs. So far, I haven't found anybody that makes one for sale. The V-Balancer would be an off the shelf solution, so that may be better.

king kong · 12-12-2006, 01:26 PM

i'm using the v balance, and am really liking it.

BoneDoc · 12-12-2006, 04:06 PM

One advantage of the LBA10 is its ability to be ganged up so that you can charge 12S as a single unit. You'll just have to make your own adapter to go with the TP/FP balance plug. LBA10 will also shut off your charger if one cell gets above 4.2V, thereby making it idiot proof.

leslie · 12-12-2006, 04:34 PM

Hi all,

I'm in the same quandry; lba10 or v balance. will the either 'trip' off when the astro109 goes into it's final mode of charging, pulsing the voltage?

Cheers,
Leslie

Jay Mowl · 12-12-2006, 04:41 PM

I'm running the LBA-10 with great results with the Astro 109.

jackheli · 12-12-2006, 05:01 PM

Thanks guys. Appreciated.

I think I am set!

BoneDoc · 12-12-2006, 06:18 PM

It doesn't trip unless you've got massive imbalance. I've rigged mine so I can charge my 3S x 2 packs simultaneously as 6S. The only time it trips is with my mixed packs (PQ 3700 and Maxamps 4000), and I know I have a bad cell on the PQ. When it trips like that, I just lower the charge rate, and the ballancer has enough time to compensate for the imbalance.

Trooper Sam · 12-12-2006, 07:01 PM

I just got a reply from Bishop Power Products, and they'll make a custom adapter for the LBA10 for $8.95.

leslie · 12-12-2006, 07:01 PM

Hi all,

Thanks Bonedoc! Which balancer are you refering to?

Cheers,
Leslie

BoneDoc · 12-13-2006, 01:06 AM

LBA10

Mercuriell · 12-14-2006, 05:08 AM

I have both - my V-Balance works really well and my Hyperion LBA10 6S doesn't kick start my 109 charger - so I'd go with the VB

Trooper Sam · 12-14-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercuriell

I have both - my V-Balance works really well and my Hyperion LBA10 6S doesn't kick start my 109 charger - so I'd go with the VB

What do you mean, "doesn't kick start my 109 charger"? Do you mean it doesn't stop the charge?

Mercuriell · 12-14-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trooper Sam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercuriell

I have both - my V-Balance works really well and my Hyperion LBA10 6S doesn't kick start my 109 charger - so I'd go with the VB

What do you mean, "doesn't kick start my 109 charger"? Do you mean it doesn't stop the charge?

No it doesn't start it - Astro 109 waits for battery then when you push LBA10 into charge/balance mode .... nothing happens - whereas the V Balance starts the charger. It may well be a faulty unit (I have read it works OK with 109) but it is only 2 months old.

BoneDoc · 12-14-2006, 06:09 PM

DOH, you need to push the mode again to start it

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Mercuriell · 12-14-2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneDoc

DOH, you need to push the mode again to start it

.

DOH returned with barbs on - as I said when you change from discharge to charge mode by "push the mode again" it doesn't kick the charger into life no matter how many times or how long you push the button

Trooper Sam · 12-15-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercuriell

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneDoc

DOH, you need to push the mode again to start it

.

DOH returned with barbs on - as I said when you change from discharge to charge mode by "push the mode again" it doesn't kick the charger into life no matter how many times or how long you push the button

Yep, you've got a bad one. As soon as I push the button on mine to put it in charge mode, my 109 kicks on.

robl · 12-22-2006, 04:37 PM

can someone confirm if the 2 lba10's can be networked to charge a 10S or 12S battery or if they will just charge 2 6S batteries together. I have seen all the literature and no where have I seen it say it will charge a 10S or 12S battery. All it says is that it will charge 2 of the same type batteries together essentially letting you charge two batteries on one charger. This and the hyperion charger look like a very good opportunity if they work.

Also, what is max amp rate? Can the LBA10 handle 10 amps going through it if I decide I want to charge a 5000mah pack at 2C?

12-11-2006, 06:21 PM	#1
jackheli Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada	Hyperion LBA-10 or FP V-Balancer? I am about to purchase a new balancer. Which one do you think is better to be used with an Astro 109? __________________ It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

12-11-2006, 06:51 PM	#2
WillJames HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	I would go with the V-Balance Module. They are working great with the 109's. __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-12-2006, 01:28 AM	#3
stevehonn Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halesowen, UK	Another vote for the V Balancer, it can shut off the Astro 109 if cells go over-voltage making it a very safe setup for fast charging as well, for charges on the field I charge my FP 4900 packs at 8A, at this level it takes around 30 minutes to fully charge a pack. __________________ Steve H Trex 600N Sport, 700N , Trex 250, Beam E4, Trex 550E, Raptor E550, Mikado Logo 500 3D, now a happy user of Futaba 10CG

12-12-2006, 02:22 AM	#4
Trooper Sam Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perris, CA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA	The LBA10Net also does those things, but you'd probably have to make your own adapters for FP/TP 6S packs. So far, I haven't found anybody that makes one for sale. The V-Balancer would be an off the shelf solution, so that may be better. __________________ Trooper Sam -Planks are like feel-good buddy movies, and helis are like horror movies. You just gotta like being scared.

12-12-2006, 01:26 PM	#5
king kong Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: los alamitos cali	i'm using the v balance, and am really liking it. __________________ Make it go BOOM Team Flightpower

12-12-2006, 04:06 PM	#6
BoneDoc Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx	One advantage of the LBA10 is its ability to be ganged up so that you can charge 12S as a single unit. You'll just have to make your own adapter to go with the TP/FP balance plug. LBA10 will also shut off your charger if one cell gets above 4.2V, thereby making it idiot proof. __________________ If you ain't crashing, you're not flying hard enough

12-12-2006, 04:34 PM	#7
leslie Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hollis, NH	Hi all, I'm in the same quandry; lba10 or v balance. will the either 'trip' off when the astro109 goes into it's final mode of charging, pulsing the voltage? Cheers, Leslie __________________ If you can't stand behind our troops, please feel free to stand in front of them.

12-12-2006, 04:41 PM	#8
Jay Mowl Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Owosso Mi.	I'm running the LBA-10 with great results with the Astro 109. __________________ Jay Mowl

12-12-2006, 05:01 PM	#9
jackheli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada	Thanks guys. Appreciated. I think I am set! __________________ It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

12-12-2006, 06:18 PM	#10
BoneDoc Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx	It doesn't trip unless you've got massive imbalance. I've rigged mine so I can charge my 3S x 2 packs simultaneously as 6S. The only time it trips is with my mixed packs (PQ 3700 and Maxamps 4000), and I know I have a bad cell on the PQ. When it trips like that, I just lower the charge rate, and the ballancer has enough time to compensate for the imbalance. __________________ If you ain't crashing, you're not flying hard enough

12-12-2006, 07:01 PM	#11
Trooper Sam Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perris, CA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA	I just got a reply from Bishop Power Products, and they'll make a custom adapter for the LBA10 for $8.95. __________________ Trooper Sam -Planks are like feel-good buddy movies, and helis are like horror movies. You just gotta like being scared.

12-13-2006, 01:06 AM	#13
BoneDoc Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx	LBA10 __________________ If you ain't crashing, you're not flying hard enough

12-14-2006, 05:08 AM	#14
Mercuriell HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: QLD, AUSTRALIA	I have both - my V-Balance works really well and my Hyperion LBA10 6S doesn't kick start my 109 charger - so I'd go with the VB __________________ John

12-14-2006, 06:09 PM	#17
BoneDoc Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Tx	DOH, you need to push the mode again to start it . __________________ If you ain't crashing, you're not flying hard enough

12-22-2006, 04:37 PM	#20
robl Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL	can someone confirm if the 2 lba10's can be networked to charge a 10S or 12S battery or if they will just charge 2 6S batteries together. I have seen all the literature and no where have I seen it say it will charge a 10S or 12S battery. All it says is that it will charge 2 of the same type batteries together essentially letting you charge two batteries on one charger. This and the hyperion charger look like a very good opportunity if they work. Also, what is max amp rate? Can the LBA10 handle 10 amps going through it if I decide I want to charge a 5000mah pack at 2C?

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