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Old 12-18-2006, 04:33 PM   #1
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Default Rotorworkz New 7.0 Lbs achievable T-600 frame kit

Gents here is a New frame I plan to release within days.

Ready to fly weight of this heli with Flight power 6s1p 4900 is 7.0 lbs = 3.175 kilogram

Cool Features are
1. Top mounted motor. Now you can add long lipo packs
2. I removed all bell cranks and replaced with direct linkage with Futaba 9650's the same servo's guys are using in Logo 14's.
3. Added 2mm Press in nuts so no more align plastic gizmo's.
4. Custom adjustable servo linkage arms that mount to your stock wheels


Note this is a prototype so general apperance and/or items may be located differently in released version.

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Old 12-18-2006, 04:35 PM   #2
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WOW Charlie... looks good!

I would love to do some 8 and 10S testing on THAT set of frames!
Man 1/2 pound drop! I want one

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Old 12-18-2006, 04:42 PM   #3
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Looks good Charley, not a path i can take as this requires new servos but for someone wanting a light weight hipo machine
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:44 PM   #4
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I bet this frame andf the 8S setup we are testing would ROCK man!
Sheesh it looks like it is going to be a POCKET ROCKET

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Old 12-18-2006, 04:51 PM   #5
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Let us know once you get it flying Bob.
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:02 PM   #6
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During my test flights it did quite well with that stock 600L motor for the same flight time/routine I used 400 mah less out of the pack. I can only imagine when I get my NEU motor how alive this beast will become :twisted:
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:11 PM   #7
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Seems like the pushrods is'nt parallell withe the mainshaft? Could one expect som interactions between the servo's because of that? If so can this be mixed down to zero interaction?
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:17 PM   #8
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No.... as long as ALL links have the same angle then no interactions. What you might get is a "delta" which means you may have different feel from center to above or center to below. Realize servo arms make an arc... so now way from full pitch both ways are the links always going to be parallel to the main shaft. At center stick they could be but as you increase pitch or or decrease pitch the angles will change!

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Old 12-18-2006, 05:22 PM   #9
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Well, maybe I'll sell my roxxter55 now that there seem to be a good alternative with cheaper parts :-)
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:22 PM   #10
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Does the canopy fit over the top mounted motor?
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:25 PM   #11
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It does require trimming the canopy for the long motors such as the stock one. for the short outrunners should not have to trim.
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:31 PM   #12
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How about a plettenberg orbit 30-12? Would I hav to trim the canopy for that one??
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Can you make the servo pocket bigger to accomodate regular size servos? You'll have more options that way.
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Damn Charlie...if these are anything like you stock replacement frames then they will be great...Loving the stock G-10 ones I got from Modefo's

Bob...hmmm...8S sounds awesome at 7lbs!!!
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No.... as long as ALL links have the same angle then no interactions. What you might get is a "delta" which means you may have different feel from center to above or center to below. Realize servo arms make an arc... so now way from full pitch both ways are the links always going to be parallel to the main shaft. At center stick they could be but as you increase pitch or or decrease pitch the angles will change!

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But that would still be the same even with the bellcrank right?
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http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=26068

Hmmmm, now I have to choose......
I tought this would be easy... :?
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:46 PM   #17
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From what I can tell the Orbit will be close, the Z-Power should be no problem. I'll let ya know in a few days.

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I bet this frame andf the 8S setup we are testing would ROCK man!
Sheesh it looks like it is going to be a POCKET ROCKET

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LOL

If the 8s will Rock, then the 10s will ....??? :twisted:
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:05 PM   #18
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Can you make the servo pocket bigger to accomodate regular size servos? You'll have more options that way.
With this design and layout Full size servos won't fit in the area of the 9650
1st they hit the mainshaft
Second the bearing blocks are to close together
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:09 PM   #19
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Bob...hmmm...8S sounds awesome at 7lbs!!!
Funny you should say this.... EXACLTY what I was thinking man... FREAKIN POCKET ROCKET with Charlies new frames!

Charlie and I just got off the phone talking about the ULTIMATE Trex setup.... I wont say now but your DAMN close in the thinking

Charlie is looking to save weight, increase flight time and performance. I am doing the same but trying motors to do the same. Between the 2 of us.. WTACH OUT... A desire anyway

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With this design and layout Full size servos won't fit in the area of the 9650
1st they hit the mainshaft
Second the bearing blocks are to close together
Hi,

What servos do we need to use w/your new design? 9650? any other options?
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