My 6S 600E with Castle build

flyinghigh450 · 03-13-2011, 04:18 PM

This is my first time building a power train setup so I hope all go's well.This is as far as I got.Need to finish mounting and plugging things in then program the ESC.I'll post more pics tonight and the maiden flight (video) if the weather is good

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kouasupra · 03-13-2011, 04:59 PM

That looks like a mamba monster motor. What's the KV on the motor?

flyinghigh450 · 03-13-2011, 05:46 PM

Yup,its a 1500KV..

iceman320 · 03-13-2011, 06:09 PM

what headspeed are you gonna be running?

flyinghigh450 · 03-13-2011, 06:18 PM

Around 2300 RPM'S ..This is right from the Castle site

Quote:

The 17 Series motors feature high quality oversized bearings, sintered Neodymium magnets, superior electromagnetic design, and rigorous engineering control in our own factory.
The 1717-1500 has 2 flats milled on it. Flat to flat is 46mm. Off the flats the can diameter is 49.5mm. The 1717-1500 will work on the Align Trex 600 with motor mount mods (holes opened up for larger screws to fit holes in the motor).
Applications: Trex 600, 4mm bolts. Requires small mod to motor mount for 4mm bolts. 6mm output shaft. 14t pinion, 2250-2300 HS. Use with Phoenix Ice 100.

Scroll down to the 1717 1500KV motor http://www.castlecreations.com/promo...clearance.html

Tisondm · 03-13-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheDeck

Around 2300 RPM'S

2300 RPM on 600!

Cheetah62 · 03-13-2011, 07:39 PM

Be afraid.... be very afraid.
H/S like that is rough on your head components, rough on your batteries....

flyinghigh450 · 03-13-2011, 07:49 PM

Im not worried so please don't derail this thread Cheetah62,thanks..

pril250 · 03-13-2011, 09:27 PM

Received a PM to take off the Video I posted. Nice guy.

gr8taz nitro · 03-13-2011, 09:34 PM

looks like you got a good start on the install. Looking forward to seeing some video when you get it done.

flyinghigh450 · 03-13-2011, 10:26 PM

Thanks gr8taz nitro

.I'll have it finished for sure tonight and i'll post pics.Still going to need help setting the esc up,can I copy your setting and maybe tell me how to set the headspeed?If I get everything setup tonight,i'll get video tomorrow

.Thanks again

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8taz nitro

looks like you got a good start on the install. Looking forward to seeing some video when you get it done.

Freeskiken · 03-13-2011, 10:58 PM

I have two of these motors. I have installed one on my TRex 600 CF with the KDE motor mount. I have to go back and reprogram my CC Phoenix Ice 100. I emailed Castle about how many poles are in this motor. This is the reply.

"These are 4 pole in-runner motors and I believe they will run best with 8-12 PWM and normal timing. I would try 8 PWM and then try 12 to see which gives lower temps and the best sound."

I have to set this yet. I am working on two TRex 600 CF, FBL VBar, 6S one with this motor and one with the Neu 1515H/2.5D-1650Kv. I will set the governer in the ESC to a set head speed. 1800 rpm, 1900rpm and 2000rpm.
Thanks Ken

flyinghigh450 · 03-13-2011, 11:14 PM

Yup,I got the same Email

.What I think i'll need help with is setting up the gov because I never used one on a electric

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Quote:

Lon,

The 1717 will not work in a T-Rex 600 on 8s, it is a 6s motor. It is a 4 pole magnet, 12 slotted stator motor. Use 12 kHz for PWM rate and normal or low timing. Go to low timing only if the motor runs hot in your set up.

_____
Bernie Wolfard
Castle Creations
540 N Rogers Rd.
Olathe, KS 66062
913-390-6939 ext. 123

Freeskiken · 03-13-2011, 11:18 PM

I will program mine and then I will post the settings. Thanks Ken

flyinghigh450 · 03-14-2011, 02:35 AM

Sounds good Ken

.Im pretty much finished with mine,just need to program the ESC and plug the motor in

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Tisondm · 03-14-2011, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheDeck

Sounds good Ken

.Im pretty much finished with mine,just need to program the ESC and plug the motor in

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I would shorten those battery and ESC wires as much as possible. Turn your packs around the other way. That much length will be hard on the caps of your ESC. Here's a pic of my setup.

flyinghigh450 · 03-14-2011, 07:42 PM

Tisondm
I plan on changing it and cleaning the wires up but I wanna get everything setup first and do my maiden,I work backwards I guess

.Your's is nice and clean,im not that good with wireing

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I have everything setup but have a question if someone can help me out http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=287945 ...

flyinghigh450 · 03-15-2011, 07:33 PM

4.9HP and should make more now that the motor pole setting is right and I can beat on it

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=288234 ..

gr8taz nitro · 03-15-2011, 11:44 PM

The castle sounds wicked doesn't it.

I may have to actually go ahead and throw the 14T pinion on for a flight just to hear that scream. Mine sounds good, but that was just awesome!

NRPY · 03-16-2011, 11:29 PM

Will that motor fit in the stock frame without modifications?

03-13-2011, 04:18 PM	#1
flyinghigh450 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Shelby Twp,Mi	My 6S 600E with Castle build This is my first time building a power train setup so I hope all go's well.This is as far as I got.Need to finish mounting and plugging things in then program the ESC.I'll post more pics tonight and the maiden flight (video) if the weather is good ..

03-13-2011, 07:39 PM	#7
Cheetah62 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA USA	Be afraid.... be very afraid. H/S like that is rough on your head components, rough on your batteries.... __________________ TREX 600ESP, Outrage G5, mCPX, CX3 Phoenix Sim - Mastering flight one crash at a time.

03-13-2011, 09:27 PM	#9
pril250 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London, Uk	Received a PM to take off the Video I posted. Nice guy. __________________ T-Rex600-ICE100,WR10ABEC,Scorp4025-1100+17T,Kasama head,QUK Swash CNC Tail,G-Force blocks,3152,DS760+BLS251,DX7+AR7000,FM. Blade400-CC ICE50,Scorp2221-8+12T,Sonix Head&Tail,5A BEC,HS65HB,Quark+3500G,AR7000,Align Carbon blades,TRex500 Skids,Flymentor. Last edited by pril250; 03-14-2011 at 11:56 PM..

03-13-2011, 09:34 PM	#10
gr8taz nitro Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Joplin, Misery	looks like you got a good start on the install. Looking forward to seeing some video when you get it done. __________________ If love is Blind, why is lingerie so popular? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-13-2011, 10:58 PM	#12
Freeskiken Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada	I have two of these motors. I have installed one on my TRex 600 CF with the KDE motor mount. I have to go back and reprogram my CC Phoenix Ice 100. I emailed Castle about how many poles are in this motor. This is the reply. "These are 4 pole in-runner motors and I believe they will run best with 8-12 PWM and normal timing. I would try 8 PWM and then try 12 to see which gives lower temps and the best sound." I have to set this yet. I am working on two TRex 600 CF, FBL VBar, 6S one with this motor and one with the Neu 1515H/2.5D-1650Kv. I will set the governer in the ESC to a set head speed. 1800 rpm, 1900rpm and 2000rpm. Thanks Ken Last edited by Freeskiken; 03-14-2011 at 08:38 PM..

03-13-2011, 04:59 PM	#2
kouasupra Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fresno, CA	That looks like a mamba monster motor. What's the KV on the motor?

03-13-2011, 05:46 PM	#3
flyinghigh450 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Shelby Twp,Mi	Yup,its a 1500KV..

03-13-2011, 06:09 PM	#4
iceman320 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: utah	what headspeed are you gonna be running?

03-13-2011, 07:49 PM	#8
flyinghigh450 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Shelby Twp,Mi	Im not worried so please don't derail this thread Cheetah62,thanks..

03-13-2011, 11:18 PM	#14
Freeskiken Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada	I will program mine and then I will post the settings. Thanks Ken

03-14-2011, 02:35 AM	#15
flyinghigh450 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Shelby Twp,Mi	Sounds good Ken .Im pretty much finished with mine,just need to program the ESC and plug the motor in ..

03-14-2011, 07:42 PM	#17
flyinghigh450 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Shelby Twp,Mi	Tisondm I plan on changing it and cleaning the wires up but I wanna get everything setup first and do my maiden,I work backwards I guess .Your's is nice and clean,im not that good with wireing . I have everything setup but have a question if someone can help me out http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=287945 ...

03-15-2011, 07:33 PM	#18
flyinghigh450 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Shelby Twp,Mi	4.9HP and should make more now that the motor pole setting is right and I can beat on it http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=288234 ..

03-15-2011, 11:44 PM	#19
gr8taz nitro Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Joplin, Misery	The castle sounds wicked doesn't it. I may have to actually go ahead and throw the 14T pinion on for a flight just to hear that scream. Mine sounds good, but that was just awesome! __________________ If love is Blind, why is lingerie so popular? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-16-2011, 11:29 PM	#20
NRPY Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: California, USA	Will that motor fit in the stock frame without modifications?

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