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Old 06-25-2011, 02:48 PM   #1
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Default HV 80 TEMPS 600E PRO ????S

Can anyone sound in about ESC temps on a stock set up on the Data logs ?

I am running 12 pwm with low timing and Gov gain is set to 8. This esc is hot compared to my HV160 on the 700E . It has not gone as far as thermal shut down . I did manage to come down as low as 110 degrees but high as 160 degrees . The 600 MX motor is coming down at about 155 degrees. Im running the rec settings per Castle . Does anyone familiar with castle ESCs know if the Temps rise the higher the Gov Gain ? My packs are 3700 mah 65c and are cool. My HS is goverened at 2250 ..
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:19 PM   #2
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Wish I could help. I'm getting my 600e Monday.

Not meaning to highjack your thread, but what is the CC recommended settings?
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:37 PM   #3
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Really, no one out ther monitoring temps out there. WTF?
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:30 PM   #4
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I guess there all to busy out there flying right now.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:05 PM   #5
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I was wandering if this was going to happen. The manual said 2500 at idle up. If you are running less than that, the ESC and motor are working harder than they need to. Castle ESC’s need to be running at 90% to 100% to stay cool. You may need to bump up your head speed and see what the temps running at.

Keep us posted please. There was already a ESC and motor that went up in flames from the 600E pro so be careful with the castle.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:10 PM   #6
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I was wandering if this was going to happen. The manual said 2500 at idle up. If you are running less than that, the ESC and motor are working harder than they need to. Castle ESC’s need to be running at 90% to 100% to stay cool. You may need to bump up your head speed and see what the temps running at.

Keep us posted please. There was already a ESC and motor that went up in flames from the 600E pro so be careful with the castle.
ok 2500 .... Where in the manual does it say that? I thought 2250 was the sweet spot and rec HS? according to the %s im right at 94% I think last time I looked. Was that an HV 80 that flamed up?
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:34 PM   #7
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Align recommends 2500 (nuts I know...) for the t600 pro. The manual actually states you'll be around 2700 at 0 pitch with the flat 100% curve they want O.o. This whole deal is actually the reason behind the gear ratio for the tail being lower...and why everyone want's a way to raise it so they can run 2000~2200 with 95mm blades.

Anywho...once I get the two 6s packs in the mail soon I'll be sure to dump you some logged temp data. I've only got 1 6s now just to do some final build setup and it doesn't even get remotely warm.
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:20 PM   #8
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I havent actually temped mine, but both ESC and Motor are hot as Hell to the touch. Packs are luke warm tho. Hyperion 6s 3300 45c.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:43 AM   #9
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Look toward the end of the manual, after the 3GX setup. There is a head speed charts listed for the 600E pro.

But if you are at 95% throttle, you should be ok anyway. this does not makes since to me.

Yours, it was a stock 80HV and 600mx motor from the kit that went up in flames.

I wander if it’s something in your castle settings.

Have you checked to make sure you motor is not binding with the extra bearing bracket. I remember “OnTheSnap” saying something about his bearing going out on him. Might be worth looking into.

Good luck, be careful with the Castle at those temps
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Old 06-26-2011, 03:34 PM   #10
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I have 90°C in finish of flight.
Governor 78%
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:27 AM   #11
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If anyone could post your data logs with your settings (stock esc and motor) it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:27 PM   #12
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So I guess none of u guys are running set rpm gov mode?
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:34 PM   #13
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I'm running set rpm at 2350. 8khz pwm, med timing. It was hot and humid yesterday and the highest temps on my logs were 150f.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:57 PM   #14
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I'm running set rpm at 2350. 8khz pwm, med timing. It was hot and humid yesterday and the highest temps on my logs were 150f.
Is this with the stock setup (align motor with 13T pinion and ice esc)?
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So I guess none of u guys are running set rpm gov mode?
Yes, I'm running Set RPM at 2250. , I changed to 8 PWM today and I flew , I havnt checked the logs but the ESC is too hot . No shut downs as of yet , Im still concerned and this is only sport flying.. I DO love this bird though !!!!!
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Is this with the stock setup (align motor with 13T pinion and ice esc)?

Yes, I've been reading more posts about raising the pwm to 12 and lowering the timing to decrease esc temps so I'm going to try that next time out. 150 degrees F is higher than my cc120 runs but then again in the 600pro, the esc is under the canopy right next to a warm motor and lipos without much airflow.
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Yes, I've been reading more posts about raising the pwm to 12 and lowering the timing to decrease esc temps so I'm going to try that next time out. 150 degrees F is higher than my cc120 runs but then again in the 600pro, the esc is under the canopy right next to a warm motor and lipos without much airflow.
Hmm you said 2350 earlier do u mean 2250? The CC interface will only allow me 2250 before it goes into red?

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. The manual said 2500 at idle up.
How is this even possible with the stock setup? Definitely not in gov mode...
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Once again... If anyone can post logs, i would like to see what settings you are running along with logs. Im trying to determine if Im gonna keep this ESC. Thanks.
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Hmm you said 2350 earlier do u mean 2250? The CC interface will only allow me 2250 before it goes into red?



How is this even possible with the stock setup? Definitely not in gov mode...
Which version of castle link are you using? I'm using the newest one (3.8 I think). I'll try to post some logs later but I'm definitely running 2358 specifically in idle 2. It gives me a minimal overhead warning and that's as high as I can go before it says too high to govern. 2500 rpm will require you to fly with flat curves of 85-100% instead of the governor. I got three more flights in yesterday but I haven't downloaded those logs yet.
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Default Re 2500 head speed??

Scoti333, just stating what is listed in the manual. I would have to assume that the head speed recommendations are based on flat throttle cures and not the CC80HV governors capabilities. There are clearly some limitations on the Castle Creations ESC. How they are getting around this I do not know. My preference is a 2050 head speed witch is well within the Castles limits, but also not at max throttle. This is why I am monitoring this thread, I am concerned about over heating my Castle while running 2050 head speed.
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