Is a bigger heli more dangerous to a noob? - Page 8

rdlohr · 06-17-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seanh

, So you have been watching me!

Just because you are paranoid does not mean he is not watching you ...

Rick

desertstalker · 06-17-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rdlohr

Just because you are paranoid does not mean he is not watching you ...

Rick

Yep I got some really powerful binoculars, can see you all the way from Australia

Spogatz · 02-21-2013, 02:42 PM

I know from experience that learning to fly a small cp heli like a nano and being able to fly it well, can be applied to a larger heli. Plus it is a big bonus that when I crash the nano I can just pick it up and fly some more as I am less likely to cause any real damage.

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ticojon · 02-28-2013, 03:43 PM

I got hit in the knuckle with my MCPX; I was in paid for about 10 minutes. Also had a scar on my face for two months from being hit by the MCPX. My 200 size heli (Master CP) hit the wall and sliced 1/2 way through solid 5/8" wall board; 2 major gashes. I don't fly my 450 anywhere near where I stand and I usually have a plan for where to duck & cover if things go bad. I’ve heard stories of solid rods flying through the air and I’ve seen videos of mid-air malfunctions so bigger is more dangerous!

Sabre1285 · 03-04-2013, 08:21 PM

My experience is I started small. I started over a 2 years ago with a MCX2. Flew it for 2 months obviously got bored with it. Then as a noob bought an Mcpx haha big mistake, but I learned to respect the power of CP helis. Let's just say if it was a bigger bird like a lot of people would suggest I my cheek might not be here. So stopped for a month then got a 120 sr and flew that for a long time now. During that time I picked up a sim got a lot of sim time in and did research. Now about a month ago I have a Nano cpx and am front flipping and hovering inverted in my living room just fine. I also flown blade 130s and 450s that friends own and they have no problem giving me the sticks cause I am cautious and respect what they are able to do. I will be getting a 300 this summer but I will be careful and not push myself past what I can do in real life. That is what the sim is for. So I say start small for three reasons. 1: You will crash and small is cheaper. 2: Small does far less damage then big. 3: If you can fly small very well you can fly big better because reaction and orientation is much more managable.

mrpjones · 03-05-2013, 12:55 AM

Well I think this question is a little miss leading. A larger heli is more dangerous in anybody's hands in comparison to a smaller heli. I would sure rather be hit by a nano rather than a 500 irrespective of the persons experience level, of course I would most rather not be hit at all...

Though if I may be miss reading the question than I'll provide my other interpretation: A heli is more likely to lose control in the hands of a beginner rather than experienced hands and since a larger heli can inflict greater damage then I would have to say "yes" there is a higher chance that it could hurt someone or someones wallet more than a smaller heli.

rdlohr · 05-15-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrpjones

Well I think this question is a little miss leading. A larger heli is more dangerous in anybody's hands in comparison to a smaller heli. I would sure rather be hit by a nano rather than a 500 irrespective of the persons experience level, of course I would most rather not be hit at all...

Though if I may be miss reading the question than I'll provide my other interpretation: A heli is more likely to lose control in the hands of a beginner rather than experienced hands and since a larger heli can inflict greater damage then I would have to say "yes" there is a higher chance that it could hurt someone or someones wallet more than a smaller heli.

Yes, you got the gist of my question.
Rick

rdlohr · 05-16-2013, 10:14 PM

Since at least one person has said this poll was misleading and that newbies skewed the data, I spent the last hour (that I wish I could have back) collecting data from each persons first post in this thread regarding how many years experience they had versus their answer.

The only factual way I could think of to capture years experience was by how long they have been a helifreak when they posted. Someone could have been flying far longer than they have been a HF, but I doubt that they were helifreaks longer than they were flying so this seemed like a conservative approach.

I had to make some assumptions on whether people said yes, no or unsure based on their post. If I wasn't sure I put them in the unsure category. I then removed the unsure people from the results.

---------------------Yes-----------No---------- People
All Data-----------76%---------24%--------- 45
1 Yr & up---------68%---------32%--------- 28
2 Yr & up---------75%---------32%---------16
3 Yr & up---------75%---------25%---------12
4 Yr & up---------67%---------33%---------6
5 Yr & up---------67%---------33%---------3

The results of the poll and the post data lean far toward the consensus that a larger heli is more dangerous to a newbie.

Many said given the right mind set and/or proper instruction you could learn on a larger heli but the overwhelming majority thought a larger heli to be more dangerous for a newbie to learn on. It is obviously true that you can learn on a large heli since that was the only way to learn until recently when MCP-X and similar helis came available as an option.

Rick

View Poll Results: Is a bigger heli more dangerous to a noob?
Yes	416	73.76%
No	88	15.60%
Not sure	60	10.64%
Voters: 564. You may not vote on this poll

03-04-2013, 08:21 PM	#146
Sabre1285 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI, USA	My experience. My experience is I started small. I started over a 2 years ago with a MCX2. Flew it for 2 months obviously got bored with it. Then as a noob bought an Mcpx haha big mistake, but I learned to respect the power of CP helis. Let's just say if it was a bigger bird like a lot of people would suggest I my cheek might not be here. So stopped for a month then got a 120 sr and flew that for a long time now. During that time I picked up a sim got a lot of sim time in and did research. Now about a month ago I have a Nano cpx and am front flipping and hovering inverted in my living room just fine. I also flown blade 130s and 450s that friends own and they have no problem giving me the sticks cause I am cautious and respect what they are able to do. I will be getting a 300 this summer but I will be careful and not push myself past what I can do in real life. That is what the sim is for. So I say start small for three reasons. 1: You will crash and small is cheaper. 2: Small does far less damage then big. 3: If you can fly small very well you can fly big better because reaction and orientation is much more managable.

05-16-2013, 10:14 PM	#149
rdlohr HF Support Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Massachusetts	Since at least one person has said this poll was misleading and that newbies skewed the data, I spent the last hour (that I wish I could have back) collecting data from each persons first post in this thread regarding how many years experience they had versus their answer. The only factual way I could think of to capture years experience was by how long they have been a helifreak when they posted. Someone could have been flying far longer than they have been a HF, but I doubt that they were helifreaks longer than they were flying so this seemed like a conservative approach. I had to make some assumptions on whether people said yes, no or unsure based on their post. If I wasn't sure I put them in the unsure category. I then removed the unsure people from the results. ---------------------Yes-----------No---------- People All Data-----------76%---------24%--------- 45 1 Yr & up---------68%---------32%--------- 28 2 Yr & up---------75%---------32%---------16 3 Yr & up---------75%---------25%---------12 4 Yr & up---------67%---------33%---------6 5 Yr & up---------67%---------33%---------3 The results of the poll and the post data lean far toward the consensus that a larger heli is more dangerous to a newbie. Many said given the right mind set and/or proper instruction you could learn on a larger heli but the overwhelming majority thought a larger heli to be more dangerous for a newbie to learn on. It is obviously true that you can learn on a large heli since that was the only way to learn until recently when MCP-X and similar helis came available as an option. Rick __________________ Helifreak, the place to be! Rush 750,Logo 400SE 600SE, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X My products, flown by top pilots around the world, like you! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by rdlohr; 05-19-2013 at 06:23 PM..

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02-21-2013, 02:42 PM	#143
Spogatz Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia	I know from experience that learning to fly a small cp heli like a nano and being able to fly it well, can be applied to a larger heli. Plus it is a big bonus that when I crash the nano I can just pick it up and fly some more as I am less likely to cause any real damage.

02-28-2013, 03:43 PM	#145
ticojon Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Worcester, MA	I got hit in the knuckle with my MCPX; I was in paid for about 10 minutes. Also had a scar on my face for two months from being hit by the MCPX. My 200 size heli (Master CP) hit the wall and sliced 1/2 way through solid 5/8" wall board; 2 major gashes. I don't fly my 450 anywhere near where I stand and I usually have a plan for where to duck & cover if things go bad. I’ve heard stories of solid rods flying through the air and I’ve seen videos of mid-air malfunctions so bigger is more dangerous!

03-05-2013, 12:55 AM	#147
mrpjones Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canada	Well I think this question is a little miss leading. A larger heli is more dangerous in anybody's hands in comparison to a smaller heli. I would sure rather be hit by a nano rather than a 500 irrespective of the persons experience level, of course I would most rather not be hit at all... Though if I may be miss reading the question than I'll provide my other interpretation: A heli is more likely to lose control in the hands of a beginner rather than experienced hands and since a larger heli can inflict greater damage then I would have to say "yes" there is a higher chance that it could hurt someone or someones wallet more than a smaller heli.