NOT a good first day with the 4#3B

Mesa_Guy · 12-08-2011, 08:30 PM

, binds great with my 2042 tx, trying to fly it and It goes L E F T way hard, try trimming way right same, I am new but having better luck with the UFLYS... any tips on trimming this thing, it reacts soo fast cause it is small I can hardly Gage what to adjust, swash-plate and linkages tested good

oh and this is a tough bird, smashed against walls, couch, pictures in the living-room already grrrr

Dusty1000 · 12-09-2011, 04:40 AM

It will always want to go left upon take-off, but once stabilised and properly trimmed in the air it shouldn't want to go more one way than any other way. With this little FP heli it's best to have the swashplate tilted slightly, or it will always want to go left. Here's a pic of my 4#3A swashplate taken from the front.

It would be worth checking out the first few pages of the Tips and Tricks sticky thread for more info. These helis are tricky to get to grips with at first, but they are good at taking punishment.

Dusty

Mesa_Guy · 12-09-2011, 01:43 PM

thanks for that tip, will give it a shot, Is frustrating how bad it goes left

AtTheCross · 12-09-2011, 02:06 PM

4#3B ahhhhh my first heli

I still maintain that if you can fly a 4#3B you can fly anything!!!

happy flying to you

Mesa_Guy · 12-09-2011, 07:50 PM

I believe it !!

Cman · 12-10-2011, 02:05 PM

They are a little on the hyper side, i cant say if mine goes left or not my mind is just proramed to compensate the first little bit until im a few feet in the air.

the one mod i found that helped from the tips and tricks was adding glue to the swash plate, i believe it was from the bearing to the main shaft. after doing this my 4#3A became way more managable..

good luck

Mesa_Guy · 12-10-2011, 02:12 PM

cant find that tip anywhere, front swashplate linkage shakes depending on which way I move the stick.

Cman · 12-10-2011, 06:01 PM

this is from the sticky at the top of the page, after doing this the heli was way more managable and flies great now

Glue your swashplate to the shaft. Hold the heli in your hand, and move the swashplate up and down, using your finger on the bit that pokes through the anti-rotation bracket. You'll notice a fair amount of vertical free play. To eliminate this, apply a tiny drop of superglue with a pin to the shaft immediately above the swashplate (be really careful not to get any in the bearings). Then quickly but gently push the swashplate upwards, using your finger at the anti-rotation bracket again, and hold it there until the glue dries. Then fly it, and you should notice an immediate improvement. This is a mod you only have to do once per shaft. When you take the swashplate off for any reason, it will require a bit of a push to free it from the shaft, but when you put it back on, it almost 'clicks' into place over the dried glue.

Mesa_Guy · 12-10-2011, 09:12 PM

oh, I was looking in wrong section

http://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59

so many places to look

thanks

Cman · 12-11-2011, 12:52 AM

Yeah a ton of information on this site for a Ton of different heli's.

I just flew mine again and paid alot more attention to it, it does seem to drift left a bit on initial take off. maybe its just the way it is, i dont notice it under normal flying. i guess i just compenstae for it

Dusty1000 · 12-11-2011, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesa_Guy

cant find that tip anywhere, front swashplate linkage shakes depending on which way I move the stick.

Is the front servo not moving smoothly? If it isn't, check for a loose connection, particularly at the plug for that servo on the circuit board.

Dusty

Mesa_Guy · 12-11-2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

Is the front servo not moving smoothly? If it isn't, check for a loose connection, particularly at the plug for that servo on the circuit board.

Dusty

will check it out
thanks

Mesa_Guy · 12-14-2011, 06:04 PM

Update...after checking servos and swashplate, I found I broke off the rear guide the swashplate pin goes into - thus why it vibrates when using right stick. So I search livingroom rug and find the guide ! Lucky for me it is broken off from frame so I CA glued it will let it harden overnight and try again tomorrow.

Dusty1000 · 12-15-2011, 07:04 AM

No wonder you had trouble flying it.

If the CA doesn't hold, anything that prevents the swashplate from rotating should do the job, such as a paper clip bent into the appropriate shape.

Dusty

Mesa_Guy · 12-15-2011, 08:14 AM

Yeah, I would have to buy a new frame to truly replace it, dont care to spend much money on this bird

Tag1260 · 12-16-2011, 06:35 AM

I've never had any success with CA. I use a hot glue gun. Ain't pretty but it works.

12-08-2011, 08:30 PM	#1
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	NOT a good first day with the 4#3B , binds great with my 2042 tx, trying to fly it and It goes L E F T way hard, try trimming way right same, I am new but having better luck with the UFLYS... any tips on trimming this thing, it reacts soo fast cause it is small I can hardly Gage what to adjust, swash-plate and linkages tested good oh and this is a tough bird, smashed against walls, couch, pictures in the living-room already grrrr

12-09-2011, 04:40 AM	#2
Dusty1000 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glasgow, U.K.	It will always want to go left upon take-off, but once stabilised and properly trimmed in the air it shouldn't want to go more one way than any other way. With this little FP heli it's best to have the swashplate tilted slightly, or it will always want to go left. Here's a pic of my 4#3A swashplate taken from the front. It would be worth checking out the first few pages of the Tips and Tricks sticky thread for more info. These helis are tricky to get to grips with at first, but they are good at taking punishment. Dusty __________________ Blade 400, mSR, mCPX - Sonix SX450SE - Walkera 1#A, 4#3, 4#3A, 4#3B, 4G3

12-09-2011, 02:06 PM	#4
AtTheCross Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern CA	4#3B ahhhhh my first heli I still maintain that if you can fly a 4#3B you can fly anything!!! happy flying to you __________________ 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

12-15-2011, 07:04 AM	#14
Dusty1000 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glasgow, U.K.	No wonder you had trouble flying it. If the CA doesn't hold, anything that prevents the swashplate from rotating should do the job, such as a paper clip bent into the appropriate shape. Dusty __________________ Blade 400, mSR, mCPX - Sonix SX450SE - Walkera 1#A, 4#3, 4#3A, 4#3B, 4G3

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12-09-2011, 01:43 PM	#3
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	thanks for that tip, will give it a shot, Is frustrating how bad it goes left

12-09-2011, 07:50 PM	#5
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	I believe it !!

12-10-2011, 02:05 PM	#6
Cman Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Ontario	They are a little on the hyper side, i cant say if mine goes left or not my mind is just proramed to compensate the first little bit until im a few feet in the air. the one mod i found that helped from the tips and tricks was adding glue to the swash plate, i believe it was from the bearing to the main shaft. after doing this my 4#3A became way more managable.. good luck

12-10-2011, 02:12 PM	#7
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	cant find that tip anywhere, front swashplate linkage shakes depending on which way I move the stick.

12-10-2011, 06:01 PM	#8
Cman Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Ontario	this is from the sticky at the top of the page, after doing this the heli was way more managable and flies great now Glue your swashplate to the shaft. Hold the heli in your hand, and move the swashplate up and down, using your finger on the bit that pokes through the anti-rotation bracket. You'll notice a fair amount of vertical free play. To eliminate this, apply a tiny drop of superglue with a pin to the shaft immediately above the swashplate (be really careful not to get any in the bearings). Then quickly but gently push the swashplate upwards, using your finger at the anti-rotation bracket again, and hold it there until the glue dries. Then fly it, and you should notice an immediate improvement. This is a mod you only have to do once per shaft. When you take the swashplate off for any reason, it will require a bit of a push to free it from the shaft, but when you put it back on, it almost 'clicks' into place over the dried glue.

12-10-2011, 09:12 PM	#9
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	oh, I was looking in wrong section http://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59 so many places to look thanks

12-11-2011, 12:52 AM	#10
Cman Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Ontario	Yeah a ton of information on this site for a Ton of different heli's. I just flew mine again and paid alot more attention to it, it does seem to drift left a bit on initial take off. maybe its just the way it is, i dont notice it under normal flying. i guess i just compenstae for it

12-14-2011, 06:04 PM	#13
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	Update...after checking servos and swashplate, I found I broke off the rear guide the swashplate pin goes into - thus why it vibrates when using right stick. So I search livingroom rug and find the guide ! Lucky for me it is broken off from frame so I CA glued it will let it harden overnight and try again tomorrow.

12-15-2011, 08:14 AM	#15
Mesa_Guy Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA, Mesa, AZ	Yeah, I would have to buy a new frame to truly replace it, dont care to spend much money on this bird

12-16-2011, 06:35 AM	#16
Tag1260 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Eastern Ohio	I've never had any success with CA. I use a hot glue gun. Ain't pretty but it works.