9451 or 9351 for cyclic?

Big Fil · 06-05-2007, 02:22 PM

Putting together a 600 and am trying to figure out which servos are going to be the workhorses for the cyclic. Don't mind paying more if it will save repurchasing multiple times by going with cheaper models.

Which is THE servo for the 600? I think i've narrowed it to these two unless there is another servo out there that blows them both away.

twoturnspin · 06-05-2007, 06:31 PM

9451 looks great (7kg,0.13sec) , 9351 would be overkill somewhat (13kg, 0.13 sec).
I'm running the Spektrum 821 (5kg, 0.19sec) on cyclic and they are excellent, they are the same servo as the JR DS589 from what I can tell.
In my bigger planes I've moved across to Hitec and have been delighted with the results -perfect centering, fast and strong as well as being cheaper. You might want to look at the HS6635 (5kg/0.18sec) or the HS6965 (7kg,0.10sec), they will save you some money and the performance will be excellent.

simarRC · 06-05-2007, 07:18 PM

i would opt for the 9351's in a larger bird where the speed under load would come into play more, but on the 600, the 9451 seem good enough.

Ticidytoc · 06-05-2007, 10:49 PM

9451 - 6.0v - 120.8 oz-in. - 0.10 sec/60°

9351 - 6.0v - 192.0 oz-in. - 0.13 sec/60°

Brent@paradise · 06-06-2007, 01:12 AM

I went for

Custom Servo/Gyro Packages
T-Rex 600 (3D)
Part#: ESPBYOSS
(Qty: 1 x $430.00)
Heli T-Rex 600 (3D) (3) S9451, (1) GY401 + S9254

Heavy Duty Servo Arm Set
Part#: DUB
(Qty: 2 x $8.50)

from
http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp...OD&ProdID=5585

Had one crash all survived.

MICHAEL · 06-06-2007, 04:30 AM

i just got my 600 and i think i will go with the 9351's.

Big Fil · 06-06-2007, 08:58 AM

Michael, good to see you over on this side of the forums. The 600 is going to be so much fun.

MICHAEL · 06-06-2007, 09:05 AM

i just had to order one, i hope i can get it into the air within a month but i need to pay some bills and stuff first. I was looking at the 600N but for a 50 size heli i like the idea of electric. Is anyone using the 9351's in a 600 or is it just worth going for the 9451's and save some money.

Big Fil · 06-06-2007, 12:01 PM

I'm leaning in the way of the 9451 since ultimately it's $90 less. Supposedly the 9351s are faster under a load according to Alan Szabo but also remember he is sponsered by Futaba and his job is to make them money. I also don't expect to be putting the demands of Szabo on my 600 anytime soon. Another thing that's steering me towards the 9451s is the fact that along with being cheaper they are half the weight.

tcast305 · 06-06-2007, 02:06 PM

Michael,

Get the 9451 servos. The 9451 has more than enough torque for a 600. Alot of people use the 9451 in 90 size machines with no problems. The 9351 are just overkill in torque and slower.

Thanks.

MICHAEL · 06-06-2007, 05:08 PM

ok i will go with 9451s, cheaper.

Phil.L · 06-07-2007, 05:59 AM

I prefer the well proven 9252s for cyclic, as the metal geared 9451, 9255, 9351, get sloppy after a while. I have been using 9252s in 90 sized helis without issues, and they work great full on 3ding.

however, I will be trying 9351s in the Trex 700 for a direct comparision. I will most likely swap the gears out for the resin gears down the track.

06-05-2007, 02:22 PM	#1
Big Fil Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA	9451 or 9351 for cyclic? Putting together a 600 and am trying to figure out which servos are going to be the workhorses for the cyclic. Don't mind paying more if it will save repurchasing multiple times by going with cheaper models. Which is THE servo for the 600? I think i've narrowed it to these two unless there is another servo out there that blows them both away.

06-05-2007, 06:31 PM	#2
twoturnspin Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia	9451 looks great (7kg,0.13sec) , 9351 would be overkill somewhat (13kg, 0.13 sec). I'm running the Spektrum 821 (5kg, 0.19sec) on cyclic and they are excellent, they are the same servo as the JR DS589 from what I can tell. In my bigger planes I've moved across to Hitec and have been delighted with the results -perfect centering, fast and strong as well as being cheaper. You might want to look at the HS6635 (5kg/0.18sec) or the HS6965 (7kg,0.10sec), they will save you some money and the performance will be excellent. __________________ TRex 450 Pro, Align FBL, BeastX, Scorpian 2221-8 TRex 500, Align Pro FBL head, BeastX, 500L SAB Goblin, Skookum 540, YGE 160HV, Quantum 4530-500, Outrage servos (WIP)

06-05-2007, 10:49 PM	#4
Ticidytoc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: KVNY	9451 - 6.0v - 120.8 oz-in. - 0.10 sec/60° 9351 - 6.0v - 192.0 oz-in. - 0.13 sec/60° __________________ A Helicopter, Brushless Motor, Esc, Battery, Servos, RX

06-06-2007, 01:12 AM	#5
Brent@paradise Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Zealand	I went for Custom Servo/Gyro Packages T-Rex 600 (3D) Part#: ESPBYOSS (Qty: 1 x $430.00) Heli T-Rex 600 (3D) (3) S9451, (1) GY401 + S9254 Heavy Duty Servo Arm Set Part#: DUB (Qty: 2 x $8.50) from http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp...OD&ProdID=5585 Had one crash all survived. __________________ Better to be in the air than under the ground. ************************************** trex 450 se stock trex cf 600 stock EP 200 se

06-06-2007, 04:30 AM	#6
MICHAEL Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Australia	i just got my 600 and i think i will go with the 9351's. __________________ Synergy N9 T-Rex 600CF T-Rex 450SE Black T-Rex 450SE Silver

06-05-2007, 07:18 PM	#3
simarRC Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	i would opt for the 9351's in a larger bird where the speed under load would come into play more, but on the 600, the 9451 seem good enough.

06-06-2007, 08:58 AM	#7
Big Fil Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA	Michael, good to see you over on this side of the forums. The 600 is going to be so much fun. __________________ Mikado Model Helicopters Edge Blades

06-06-2007, 09:05 AM	#8
MICHAEL Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Australia	i just had to order one, i hope i can get it into the air within a month but i need to pay some bills and stuff first. I was looking at the 600N but for a 50 size heli i like the idea of electric. Is anyone using the 9351's in a 600 or is it just worth going for the 9451's and save some money. __________________ Synergy N9 T-Rex 600CF T-Rex 450SE Black T-Rex 450SE Silver

06-06-2007, 12:01 PM	#9
Big Fil Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA	I'm leaning in the way of the 9451 since ultimately it's $90 less. Supposedly the 9351s are faster under a load according to Alan Szabo but also remember he is sponsered by Futaba and his job is to make them money. I also don't expect to be putting the demands of Szabo on my 600 anytime soon. Another thing that's steering me towards the 9451s is the fact that along with being cheaper they are half the weight. __________________ Mikado Model Helicopters Edge Blades

06-06-2007, 02:06 PM	#10
tcast305 Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami, FL	Michael, Get the 9451 servos. The 9451 has more than enough torque for a 600. Alot of people use the 9451 in 90 size machines with no problems. The 9351 are just overkill in torque and slower. Thanks.

06-06-2007, 05:08 PM	#11
MICHAEL Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Perth, Australia	ok i will go with 9451s, cheaper. __________________ Synergy N9 T-Rex 600CF T-Rex 450SE Black T-Rex 450SE Silver

06-07-2007, 05:59 AM	#12
Phil.L Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia	I prefer the well proven 9252s for cyclic, as the metal geared 9451, 9255, 9351, get sloppy after a while. I have been using 9252s in 90 sized helis without issues, and they work great full on 3ding. however, I will be trying 9351s in the Trex 700 for a direct comparision. I will most likely swap the gears out for the resin gears down the track. __________________ Team \| CJ Youngblood \| Scorpion \| Canomod \| Radix \| Trex 700e \|Scorpion 4035-565 \|Scorpion 130amp 12 esc \| 10s 5000mah \| 6 kW peak!

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