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Old 01-30-2012, 10:29 PM   #1
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So I'm finally getting into some 3d and my Alpha 400 on my EXI 450 Pro just doesn't provide as much power as I'd like for tic tocs, etc. Can anyone recommend a good upgrade? I have a Proton 40A ESC from HobbyPartz.com and 25C 2200mAH Turnigy 3S lipos.
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:34 PM   #2
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Im running the exceed rc helium 3700kv motor and it has plenty of power for sport flying. Im flying with gens ace 55c packs and it has and those made a big difference in the power too.
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Im running the exceed rc helium 3700kv motor and it has plenty of power for sport flying. Im flying with gens ace 55c packs and it has and those made a big difference in the power too.
Looks like a pretty nice motor, and the warehouse is in the USA . Did yours come with screws? A reviewer indicates it uses 2.5m screws, which may be difficult to find. And is a 40A ESC enough? Either way, they are out of stock .
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2 choices for you
first you have to change to a better esc
castle ice 50

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scorpion 2221-8 (about the same as a mx3500) better torque so it will do punch outs with the right pinion it turns mine at 3600-3800rmps at the head no problems at all. 3400 is really all you need, really universal motor

cost wise, a toward pro 2415-06t is a 4400kv motor for 15.00 from hk and it screams
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:58 PM   #5
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Looks like a pretty nice motor, and the warehouse is in the USA . Did yours come with screws? A reviewer indicates it uses 2.5m screws, which may be difficult to find. And is a 40A ESC enough? Either way, they are out of stock .
I dont think mine came with screws but i dont remember. I had screws that fit it though. I use a 40 amp esc and it just gets a little warm so a 40 amp esc is perfect.
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2 choices for you
first you have to change to a better esc
castle ice 50

now motor
scorpion 2221-8 (about the same as a mx3500) better torque so it will do punch outs with the right pinion it turns mine at 3600-3800rmps at the head no problems at all. 3400 is really all you need, really universal motor

cost wise, a toward pro 2415-06t is a 4400kv motor for 15.00 from hk and it screams
What is wrong with the Proton ESC? I'm using it with the Align 450MX and I have a lot of power with it. The soft start works pretty well for me as well.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:47 PM   #7
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2 choices for you
first you have to change to a better esc
castle ice 50

now motor
scorpion 2221-8 (about the same as a mx3500) better torque so it will do punch outs with the right pinion it turns mine at 3600-3800rmps at the head no problems at all. 3400 is really all you need, really universal motor

cost wise, a toward pro 2415-06t is a 4400kv motor for 15.00 from hk and it screams
Why would he have to get a better esc? I have used that esc and it worked fine!
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on 3 cell I guess you wouldnt
I fly 4 cell on my 2221-8 and like to act stupid with it which pulls more current

I also like the gov. feature in it

to each his or her own
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My Turnigy 3S 2200mAH 25C packs come down a little warm (not hot) with the alpha 400. Is it likely that I'll need to upgrade to higher current packs to take advantage of a better motor and avoid safety issues? I selected these packs because they can supply up to 55A (25C*2.2A = 55A), which provides a 15A margin for the 40A ESC. Perhaps it isn't this simple?
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:29 AM   #10
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So it looks like HobbyPartz is still OOS on this motor: http://www.hobbypartz.com/86ma78-2220-3700kv.html

I'm considering Turnigy as I don't want to spend a ton of $$. I've heard the Turnigy Typhoon 2215H and 2218H models are good, the latter being a bit more powerful. Does anyone have any comments about these motors?
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