Swashplate slop?

[mamartin]

After flying several batteries today when I went to fold up the main blades and put the X5 up I noticed there was a little play in the blades. Once I got home I went thru it all and found when the blades are folded back I can feel up and down play that is coming from my swash.
Is this common or should I replace my swash? I haven't had any misshap's with this swash and it has less than 40 flights on it since its replacement and it is the new style swash plate

[Harrow]

There's been some discussion on this recently in this forum. Here's the thread...

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=287624

[mamartin]

Originally Posted by Harrow

There's been some discussion on this recently in this forum. Here's the thread...

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=287624

Thanks for the link that's exactly what I've got going on.

[mamartin]

FYI. I'm not sure if my swash started getting sloppier here in the past couple days but it sure felt like it
So I went ahead and picked up a new one from my LHS but the thing about is that luckily he stocks up on lots of parts because the first 3 swash plates had the beginnings of that same slop feel in them. It took feeling thru a few of them before I found one that felt good and solid without play.
I'm going to take my older swash apart and see if there is anything that can be done to tighten it up or not. I will post back if I find a way to tighten it.
After looking more closely at it i may be wrong but I don't think that the washer trick is going to work on this new style swash

[mamartin]

ok I found out today why I was feeling the slop and others out there may also have this issue so hopefully this helps anyone else out who is having this.
There is a retaining ring underneath that has 4 threaded holes in it that are used for just allowing a way to grip it to enable you to be capable of either tightening it or loosening it. Gaui sells a tool that you can use for this very purpose but I just used a larger sized alen wrench and laid it across 2 of the bolts and used it as leverage and found out that my retaining ring was working itself loose. So I went ahead and removed it and replaced the bearing in it just because it made me feel better about it and then applied a small amount of loc-tite on the threads of the ring and tightened it back down tight, removed my "grip" bolts and checked it and the slop was no longer there.
I feel confident now that it will not develop anymore slop.

Here are some pictures of what I did, I hope this helps others to figuring out there swash slop issues

Mike

[fatalsync]

Good tip. Will have to remember this one.

[helidude71]

Very helpful.
I hope I don't need it, but when it gets sloppy I know how to fix.

[browndog]

Awesome Tip for sure. I wonder where you could pick up the tool. You would think Gaui would give us this tidbit of info

[mamartin]

Originally Posted by browndog

Awesome Tip for sure. I wonder where you could pick up the tool. You would think Gaui would give us this tidbit of info

Dave at anythingheli.com has them but it's not needed in order to service the swash just put some bolts in those holes and use a larger Allen wrench or screwdriver across the 2 bolts in order to tighten or loosen that ring

[browndog]

very cool

Do those bolts need to be a certain size?

[mamartin]

Yeh if I remember right they are 2mm bolts and you need them as short as possible and don't screw them all the way into the bearing or you may ruin the bearing

[browndog]

Thank you sir !