Hyperion 4035-560

Danny_Swe · 03-19-2012, 02:55 PM

I just can't find clear answers in this. So may I please ask if you know good standard settings for this motor.

I'm not so experienced so I can tell when the motor is running smooth or so. Just use some standard setting and then in the future maybe learn this.

But for now. What timing and pwm do you recommend? For running this motor cold but efficient on a YGE 120HV controller.

(the motor is the same as Scorpion HKII)

Georges van Gansen · 03-20-2012, 04:23 AM

8Khz and 5 degree,

Georges van Gansen · 03-20-2012, 05:38 AM

Sorry! correction, for YGE, try 18 degree.

Danny_Swe · 03-20-2012, 06:44 AM

ok, I actually have 8 kHz and 5 degree now, but I will change to 18 degree then! (have not tried it yet).

Thanks!

Danny_Swe · 05-01-2012, 06:02 PM

just to add something interesting...

found a formula:
pwm = Kv x pole count x nominal volts used / 20 = 560 x 12 x 44 / 20 = 14,8k

so I got 14 kHz and set the ESC on that.

What a difference! More power now, much more torque, but the motor runs alot warmer also (but it goes smooth and nice in both cases). Well well. I guess it's a trade off. Coldness or Power. For now I think I prefer the latter option

powercroco · 05-01-2012, 11:22 PM

forget this formula!
there are much more influences than only nspec, voltage and number of poles!!!
it doesn't really works.

Danny_Swe · 05-02-2012, 03:18 AM

ok! thanks for bringing light on this matter. I guess it's a trial and error process of finding the best value for your setup. I hope I found mine now

think I will try it like this for a while.

NRPY · 05-03-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powercroco

forget this formula!
there are much more influences than only nspec, voltage and number of poles!!!
it doesn't really works.

What else do you recommend to get settings "in the ballpark"?

MrMel · 05-04-2012, 01:17 AM

Check temps on both ESC and motor, I've found it depends on what ESC, and what motor.

Scorpion ESC likes 5 degree, Hobbywing must be set at 15
Likewise Xera needs higher than Scorpion motors and so on.

Danny_Swe · 06-29-2012, 05:32 AM

alright, here's the inside. I thought it was supposed to be other bearings than standard there. But whatever, it's good anyway. The magnets are really strong when you pull it out.

alexmit · 06-29-2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powercroco

forget this formula!
there are much more influences than only nspec, voltage and number of poles!!!
it doesn't really works.

I have seen you post about that formula being no good and most of us know you are an expert on this subject. Is there any sort of formula one could use to determine optimum PWM and timing?

Stolla · 06-30-2012, 01:05 AM

there is no formula, but you can follow manufacturers recommendation and then check motor temps performance etc, if it doesn't work well tweak from there.

03-19-2012, 02:55 PM	#1
Danny_Swe Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sweden	Hyperion 4035-560 I just can't find clear answers in this. So may I please ask if you know good standard settings for this motor. I'm not so experienced so I can tell when the motor is running smooth or so. Just use some standard setting and then in the future maybe learn this. But for now. What timing and pwm do you recommend? For running this motor cold but efficient on a YGE 120HV controller. (the motor is the same as Scorpion HKII) __________________ TDR, 550E, 450Q \| VBar, YGE, DX8 \| Olympus OM-D http://dannesholk.se/rc.shtml

03-20-2012, 06:44 AM	#4
Danny_Swe Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sweden	ok, I actually have 8 kHz and 5 degree now, but I will change to 18 degree then! (have not tried it yet). Thanks! __________________ TDR, 550E, 450Q \| VBar, YGE, DX8 \| Olympus OM-D http://dannesholk.se/rc.shtml

05-01-2012, 06:02 PM	#5
Danny_Swe Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sweden	just to add something interesting... found a formula: pwm = Kv x pole count x nominal volts used / 20 = 560 x 12 x 44 / 20 = 14,8k so I got 14 kHz and set the ESC on that. What a difference! More power now, much more torque, but the motor runs alot warmer also (but it goes smooth and nice in both cases). Well well. I guess it's a trade off. Coldness or Power. For now I think I prefer the latter option __________________ TDR, 550E, 450Q \| VBar, YGE, DX8 \| Olympus OM-D http://dannesholk.se/rc.shtml

05-02-2012, 03:18 AM	#7
Danny_Swe Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sweden	ok! thanks for bringing light on this matter. I guess it's a trial and error process of finding the best value for your setup. I hope I found mine now think I will try it like this for a while. __________________ TDR, 550E, 450Q \| VBar, YGE, DX8 \| Olympus OM-D http://dannesholk.se/rc.shtml

05-04-2012, 01:17 AM	#9
MrMel V-BAR Guru Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lidingo/Stockholm, Sweden	Check temps on both ESC and motor, I've found it depends on what ESC, and what motor. Scorpion ESC likes 5 degree, Hobbywing must be set at 15 Likewise Xera needs higher than Scorpion motors and so on. __________________ Gone fishing.. or hunting or something.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-20-2012, 04:23 AM	#2
Georges van Gansen Owner Scorpion Motors Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: BXL&HKG	8Khz and 5 degree,

03-20-2012, 05:38 AM	#3
Georges van Gansen Owner Scorpion Motors Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: BXL&HKG	Sorry! correction, for YGE, try 18 degree.

05-01-2012, 11:22 PM	#6
powercroco Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: germany	forget this formula! there are much more influences than only nspec, voltage and number of poles!!! it doesn't really works.

06-29-2012, 05:32 AM	#10
Danny_Swe Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sweden	alright, here's the inside. I thought it was supposed to be other bearings than standard there. But whatever, it's good anyway. The magnets are really strong when you pull it out. Attached Thumbnails __________________ TDR, 550E, 450Q \| VBar, YGE, DX8 \| Olympus OM-D http://dannesholk.se/rc.shtml

06-30-2012, 01:05 AM	#12
Stolla Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Port Elizabeth South Africa	there is no formula, but you can follow manufacturers recommendation and then check motor temps performance etc, if it doesn't work well tweak from there.

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