Soon to be NEW Align Rudder Control system?

duytang · 03-31-2012, 12:05 PM

So like the DFC head it started with the 700's then now the 450's. I could only imagine the same will happen with the Rudder Control System.

It seems like a good cheaper alternative to the KDE performance tail? What do you guys think?

Pacolyps · 03-31-2012, 10:39 PM

Of course they are coming out with a new tail. I just upgraded my 500 so it is only natural that they get something really good. Looks sweet! Hopefully it is the answer we all are looking for.

dct · 04-01-2012, 10:01 AM

IMO Align needs to fix all the problems they have with there other setup that are out there already !! Before they make new problems !!!

koppterx · 04-01-2012, 10:25 AM

i like it!!!!

Lunar Wolf · 04-01-2012, 11:01 AM

Already got the KDE one for my 550 although if Align can do theirs at a better price then it'll be a good option. 450 could really use this setup though.

msallua · 04-02-2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koppterx

i like it!!!!

me too!!

markleyland · 04-02-2012, 10:08 AM

More money! When can I get one.

felborn · 04-02-2012, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dct

IMO Align needs to fix all the problems they have with there other setup that are out there already !! Before they make new problems !!!

What issues are are you thinking of? Aside from the underrated ESC in the 550, I really cant think of much that needs sorting on any of my Align kits.

dct · 04-02-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felborn

What issues are are you thinking of? Aside from the underrated ESC in the 550, I really cant think of much that needs sorting on any of my Align kits.

??? Did you ever hear about the 3GX???
I tried two new ones and had to go with a AR7200BX !
Also agree about the ESC...
Main gears are never round ??
Sloppy TT gears??
Only one Align servo arm for each servo??
Sloppy bearing in tail blades ??
Just to name some ....

felborn · 04-02-2012, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dct

??? Did you ever hear about the 3GX???
I tried two new ones and had to go with a AR7200BX !
Also agree about the ESC...
Main gears are never round ??
Sloppy TT gears??
Only one Align servo arm for each servo??
Sloppy bearing in tail blades ??
Just to name some ....

Went with a AR7200BX after the esc on my 550 fried the 3GX, honestly dont notice much difference. And I havent noticed much or any of those other issues you list, Align kits has always been great to me with one exception, the 250. Tail om that is crap

H.M.MURDOCK · 04-02-2012, 02:54 PM

Hopefully Align will make a tail rod guide for the 550 that works correctly.

kachur779 · 04-02-2012, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dct

??? Did you ever hear about the 3GX???
I tried two new ones and had to go with a AR7200BX !
Also agree about the ESC...
Main gears are never round ??
Sloppy TT gears??
Only one Align servo arm for each servo??
Sloppy bearing in tail blades ??
Just to name some ....

u stood by align and the 3gx in the 3gx set up forms..shooting down everyone that said 3gx was s$%t and calling them a troll ..now u go out and get a beastx and say aligns crap

Rototerrier · 04-02-2012, 04:39 PM

I like it. Will eliminate the slop that will inevitably build up around the current ball design.

Nko15 · 04-03-2012, 01:49 AM

Bad design, puts radial presure on the slider in the extremes of the slider range. Best way to do this kind of stuff is using the system they use on the Protos, Rave and Fusion50. That said, i have the stock v1 tail, with over a 1000 flights...... it has slop, but acceptable. and it flies like its on rails.

goldie100 · 04-03-2012, 01:54 AM

dct · 04-03-2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kachur779

u stood by align and the 3gx in the 3gx set up forms..shooting down everyone that said 3gx was s$%t and calling them a troll ..now u go out and get a beastx and say aligns crap

I think you have me confused with someone else?
Unless your talking about the reset in flight?
I have never had a reset in any of my 3GX's ....!
But have had backward drift from day one...!
With both of them.
Now fixed using a AR7200BX, after over 90 flights with the 3GX's backward drift!

markleyland · 04-03-2012, 03:03 PM

Align is EVIL

chrismechanic · 04-04-2012, 04:46 AM

nice markey..me likey

60something · 04-04-2012, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nko15

Bad design, puts radial presure on the slider in the extremes of the slider range. Best way to do this kind of stuff is using the system they use on the Protos, Rave and Fusion50. That said, i have the stock v1 tail, with over a 1000 flights...... it has slop, but acceptable. and it flies like its on rails.

Agree with this. I have a slider of very similar design on my three-bladed tail assembly, and I'm looking to replace the tail after about 50 flights.There's too much vibrational wear on mounting screws that hold the u-bracket to the slider. This area has to be very well engineered, bearinged (very small!), or sleeved with high strength materials. The U-bracket needs to be steel, not aluminum. The holes in the u-bracket go oval with time in aluminum, leading to a lot of slop in the slider.

The tail unit I have to replace it with is the best I've come across (in 3-bladed tails) and has a slider built like a swashplate. The only (BIG) problem with it is that 5mm tail shafts are being supplied undersized (way undersized), allowing the slider to rock on the shaft, creating ... vibration. We are plagued with poor quality tolerances in some of the most critical flight areas. I don't mind telling manufacturers I'll pay an additional $30 bucks for good fitting parts where it counts, rather than lose a $1000 heli to poor QC.

markleyland · 04-04-2012, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 60something

Agree with this. I have a slider of very similar design on my three-bladed tail assembly, and I'm looking to replace the tail after about 50 flights.There's too much vibrational wear on mounting screws that hold the u-bracket to the slider. This area has to be very well engineered, bearinged (very small!), or sleeved with high strength materials. The U-bracket needs to be steel, not aluminum. The holes in the u-bracket go oval with time in aluminum, leading to a lot of slop in the slider.

The tail unit I have to replace it with is the best I've come across (in 3-bladed tails) and has a slider built like a swashplate. The only (BIG) problem with it is that 5mm tail shafts are being supplied undersized (way undersized), allowing the slider to rock on the shaft, creating ... vibration. We are plagued with poor quality tolerances in some of the most critical flight areas. I don't mind telling manufacturers I'll pay an additional $30 bucks for good fitting parts where it counts, rather than lose a $1000 heli to poor QC.

Have you seen this? http://www.rc-tek.com/us_store/i2rc-...bly-p2277.html

They also have a dual blade assembly http://www.rc-tek.com/us_store/i2rc-...bly-p2274.html

03-31-2012, 12:05 PM	#1
duytang Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmonton	Soon to be NEW Align Rudder Control system? So like the DFC head it started with the 700's then now the 450's. I could only imagine the same will happen with the Rudder Control System. It seems like a good cheaper alternative to the KDE performance tail? What do you guys think? Attached Thumbnails __________________ SAB Goblin 700 - Yellow - AR7200BX, SAB 690mm/115mm, Quantum 4530- 500KV, CC-BEC PRO & ICE2 HV 160 MSH Mini Protos 6s Stretch - AR7200BX, SAB 350mm, YGE 60 Blade 130X - KDE Direct XF,Xtreme DFC, Spin 8000kv Last edited by duytang; 03-31-2012 at 01:35 PM..

03-31-2012, 10:39 PM	#2
Pacolyps Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wyoming	Of course they are coming out with a new tail. I just upgraded my 500 so it is only natural that they get something really good. Looks sweet! Hopefully it is the answer we all are looking for. __________________ Pacolyps Team Heliproz

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dct Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Angelo TX.	IMO Align needs to fix all the problems they have with there other setup that are out there already !! Before they make new problems !!! __________________ Now doing EASY 3D!! And having a Ball !!Trex 550e FBL V2 AR7200BX with CC BEC PRO ,And Trex 450 SA / SE metal head and carbon boom with V2 canopy, 430L motor, Hitec 65mg servo's, Futaba 401 gyro ! T-rex 450 Pro, DFC with AR7200BX To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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koppterx Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moreno Valley CA	i like it!!!! __________________ converting nitro into noise since the 70's.

04-02-2012, 10:08 AM	#7
markleyland Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colchester, UK	More money! When can I get one. __________________ "Sort your head out and fly with your heart" Trex 450 SE V2: 9257 tail, Spartan Quark, HS65mg cyclic, DX7-AR7000, NEU 1107h/2y, Jazz Esc, Trex 550 FBL: Jive 100+LV, KDE/NEU 1907H/1/N42, Vbar 5.3, Futaba BLS 251

04-01-2012, 11:01 AM	#5
Lunar Wolf Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wirral - NW England (UK)	Already got the KDE one for my 550 although if Align can do theirs at a better price then it'll be a good option. 450 could really use this setup though.

04-02-2012, 02:54 PM	#11
H.M.MURDOCK Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA	. Hopefully Align will make a tail rod guide for the 550 that works correctly.

04-02-2012, 04:39 PM	#13
Rototerrier Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA - USA	I like it. Will eliminate the slop that will inevitably build up around the current ball design. __________________ TREX 700 Helibug GASSER 16t \| µBeast \| JR8717 \| TRM 270TT \| GV1 \| R921 X9303 TREX 700 Helibug GASSER 20t \| µBeast \| DS610s \| Hanson 29 3D Max \| GV1 \| R921 X9303 TREX 550 V2 DFC \| AR7000 \| µBeast \| CC Ice 100 \| CC BEC Pro \| DS650 Tail \| 520 Blades

04-03-2012, 01:49 AM	#14
Nko15 Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hoorn (NL)	Bad design, puts radial presure on the slider in the extremes of the slider range. Best way to do this kind of stuff is using the system they use on the Protos, Rave and Fusion50. That said, i have the stock v1 tail, with over a 1000 flights...... it has slop, but acceptable. and it flies like its on rails. __________________ Designing/Building the HEX Helicopters Sponsored by Gens Ace Batteries, RCbearings.co.uk, Rapideyewear.co.uk

04-03-2012, 01:54 AM	#15
goldie100 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom	+1

04-03-2012, 03:03 PM	#17
markleyland Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colchester, UK	Align is EVIL __________________ "Sort your head out and fly with your heart" Trex 450 SE V2: 9257 tail, Spartan Quark, HS65mg cyclic, DX7-AR7000, NEU 1107h/2y, Jazz Esc, Trex 550 FBL: Jive 100+LV, KDE/NEU 1907H/1/N42, Vbar 5.3, Futaba BLS 251

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chrismechanic Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Margate, England	nice markey..me likey __________________ trex 450 pro-fbl-scorpion 2221-8-custom motor mount-beastx-tarot head-beam e4 swash trex 550e-castle 100 ice-bec pro-alloy tail control arm- 550mm blades-beastx-compass 6hv head-2mm side frames futaba T8FG--R606FS/R617FS

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