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Old 05-16-2012, 01:18 AM   #1
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As you can see from the picture below, my current swash leveler that I use for the T550 and T600Pro is too wide for the Whiplash swash plate. Can you guys recommend a swash leveler that will work with the Whiplash swash plate? Please, include a link if possible. Thanks.

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Old 05-16-2012, 03:52 AM   #2
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Try one of these..

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:54 PM   #3
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I got mine local. I just called the shop and this is the one they sold me. Looks right.

http://helidirect.com/sa00137a-swash...50-p-26145.hdx

The fusion also has a narrow swash and 10mm main. This lands on the swash above the link balls. An does not touch the links. It's perfect.


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I got mine local. I just called the shop and this is the one they sold me. Looks right.

http://helidirect.com/sa00137a-swash...50-p-26145.hdx
Thank you so much. I was about to place an order with helidirect. I just added this tool to the cart. Thanks
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Anyone find one that you don't have to take the head off?
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Anyone find one that you don't have to take the head off?
The compass 7hv under swash leveler would work. It slides between the frame and the swash.


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Old 05-19-2012, 01:54 AM   #7
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As you can see from the picture below, my current swash leveler that I use for the T550 and T600Pro is too wide for the Whiplash swash plate. Can you guys recommend a swash leveler that will work with the Whiplash swash plate? Please, include a link if possible. Thanks.


A very simple way to modify that is to take a strip of CF the width of the lower face that sits on the swash and cut it the length of that lower face plus ever how much you need it to poke out so that it will reach the swash arm. Sand the edges smooth and put a drop of CA on each CF piece and glue it to the lower face so that it protrudes out towards the center shaft and will engage the swash arm.

This way you don't have to purchase a whole new swash tool.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:12 AM   #9
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I got mine local. I just called the shop and this is the one they sold me. Looks right.

http://helidirect.com/sa00137a-swash...50-p-26145.hdx

The fusion also has a narrow swash and 10mm main. This lands on the swash above the link balls. An does not touch the links. It's perfect.


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I tested this swash leveler, and it works perfectly. Thanks.

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I tested this swash leveler, and it works perfectly. Thanks.

Great!! Glad to hear it!
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:54 PM   #11
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+1 on the link Scootr posted above. It is made by MA specifically for their swash plates. Ive been using mine for years and it works great. Being that it has a round plate, it helps to level the swash at all four points instead of three (like most levelers do).
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:23 PM   #12
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I just wanted to follow up. After trying the Outrage leveler that I originally thought worked perfectly, it turns out that the Outrage leveler, at least the one I have, is not 100% level. After "leveling" the swash with the Outrage leveler, If I spin the Outrage leveler 120 degrees, so that the Outrage leveler tripod arms sit on different swash protrusions, small gaps become evident. I ended up marking one of the Outrage leveler arms to correspond with the elevator servo to at least keep the level measurement error consistent at low, mid, and high stick.

Although I could not notice any decrement in flight performance, just knowing that the swash was not really leveled due to the limitations of the Outrage leveler itself was eating my up inside.

I decided to order the MA 3000-10 swash leveler as others have recommended. Since it is round, it should level the swash at 4 points, rather than that just 3 points as the regular tripod swash levelers. Made by MA, specifically for the MA helicopters, it should be perfect. Unfortunately, just like the Outrage, this MA leveler allows for the appearance of tiny gaps, if I spin this tool around. Again, no decrement in flight performance, but still bothered me.

I recently ordered the TrueBlood swash leveler https://www.readyheli.com/LEVELER4-L...g_p_34924.html. It is similar to the TrueBlood Leveler2, in that it fits 10mm shafts. However, unlike the Leveler2 which fits the T-Rex 550E and 600Pro longer swash arms, this Leveler4 has shorter arms that the fit the Whiplash swashplate. This TrueBlood leveler is more expensive than the other 2 levelers, but it is more precise than the other 2 levelers. Once I level the swashplate with this TrueBlood, I can spin the TrueBlood around the shaft, and cannot notice any gaps. Again, I cannot notice any improvement in flight performance compared to setting up with the other levelers, but this leveler is more precise.

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Old 08-21-2012, 01:52 PM   #13
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Great info John! Thanks for passing along!
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:20 PM   #14
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I use the same MA leveler on my Whiplash and have never had a problem. Fits perfectly and nice and straight for me.

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Old 08-22-2012, 08:09 AM   #15
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The MA 3000-10 leveler seems more precise than the Outrage leveler. Again, their level of imprecision is minuscule, but it is there. After I level the swashplate with the MA 3000-10 leveler, if I spin the MA 3000-10 leveler by 1/8 turns, I can notice gaps, however minuscule, that where not there before. I don't see any such gaps when I level with the Trueblood, and later spin the Trueblood by 120 degree turns.
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