KK board questions - setup

jmc67 · 06-07-2012, 05:23 PM

So I got the KK black board version 5.5 (Atmega 168PA). I think firmware version 2.5 (x) is loaded and I also have the USBasp programmer. I have a few questions since I'm not familiar with this board.

1. Is there a way to tell what firmware is loaded on the board?
2. What flashtool is recommended? I have kkmulticopterflashtool v0.62 and AVR Studio 4. AVR is giving error when trying to select programmer. The other flash tool loads.
3. Can the board get damaged if you set the wrong settings upon flashing?
4. Is there a difference in firmware between blue and black?

petedee · 06-07-2012, 11:58 PM

1. Possibly but I have never bothered just load what you want to try next.
2. Use KK or Extreme Burner.
3. Highly unlikely.
4. Choose the firmware from the list in KK according to your board and you can't go to far wrong, most I think now like 4.7 from Kaptain K or 2.5 from Minsoo Kim.

bstanley72 · 06-08-2012, 04:25 PM

This might help:

http://flitetest.com/articles/HK_Qua...er_Programming

I watched it last night, I believe they said it is the KK board.

jmc67 · 06-09-2012, 08:23 PM

Very informative video, thanks. I loaded fw 4.7 from a hex file (taken from rcgroups) with no issues. Everything is setup but have a very small oscillation from forward flight to a hover. My pots settings are roll 40%, pitch 0% and yaw 50%.

Does anyone know if firmware v4.7 supports changing flight mode with the tx like you can with v2.5?

What are the differences between the different modes?

petedee · 06-10-2012, 08:07 PM

I would have thought you would need more than 0% on pitch, especially considering you have an oscillation during transition to FF.

jmc67 · 06-10-2012, 08:44 PM

I tried setting the roll (P) and got it where it hovers nice and also set it for forward flight so that it does not pitch up using pitch (I) but still get a slight oscillation coming to a hover. The quad is/was a Walker UFO MX400. All electronics removed. Here is the setup.

Original Walkera MX400 frame, motors and props.
KK board v5.5 running firmware v4.7
Power distribution board
Hobbywing FlyFun 30A Brushless ESC
Spektrum AR600 rx
Spektrum DX7 tx

Spork01 · 06-15-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmc67

I tried setting the roll (P) and got it where it hovers nice and also set it for forward flight so that it does not pitch up using pitch (I) but still get a slight oscillation coming to a hover. The quad is/was a Walker UFO MX400. All electronics removed. Here is the setup.

Original Walkera MX400 frame, motors and props.
KK board v5.5 running firmware v4.7
Power distribution board
Hobbywing FlyFun 30A Brushless ESC
Spektrum AR600 rx
Spektrum DX7 tx

Hello JMC67, can you take another close up pic of the wiring from the receiver to the board please? thanks!

bobepine · 06-15-2012, 11:45 PM

did you calibrate your ESCs? Individually using the RX and all at once using the TX?

Chris

jmc67 · 06-18-2012, 12:36 PM

Yes, I think its a matter of setting the pots correctly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobepine

did you calibrate your ESCs? Individually using the RX and all at once using the TX?

Chris

jmc67 · 06-18-2012, 12:44 PM

I would but I don't have this board hooked up at the moment. I'm trying out another board (FY-90Q) on the MX400 frame. Attached is another image. Hope this one works for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spork01

Hello JMC67, can you take another close up pic of the wiring from the receiver to the board please? thanks!

petedee · 06-18-2012, 03:26 PM

Those FY-90Q boards look interesting with lots of features, how is it going? I would try one but currently using four different boards already....

jmc67 · 06-18-2012, 08:09 PM

Should be ready for flight this weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by petedee

Those FY-90Q boards look interesting with lots of features, how is it going? I would try one but currently using four different boards already....

pinguin · 06-19-2012, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmc67

I tried setting the roll (P) and got it where it hovers nice and also set it for forward flight so that it does not pitch up using pitch (I) but still get a slight oscillation coming to a hover. The quad is/was a Walker UFO MX400. All electronics removed. Here is the setup.

Try using several layer of foam tape to mount the board, rather than using screws.

jmc67 · 06-24-2012, 11:04 PM

FY-90Q board is not bad at all. It does a good job auto leveling but sensitive to vibration. If you have a perfect setup, this board does its job. Since I have the KK board and now waiting for the KK2, I will more than likely sell the FY-90Q. I've only had it for almost 3 weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by petedee

Those FY-90Q boards look interesting with lots of features, how is it going? I would try one but currently using four different boards already....

jmc67 · 06-24-2012, 11:05 PM

I changed the walkera props to 1045 blades and the oscillation disappeared.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinguin

Try using several layer of foam tape to mount the board, rather than using screws.

06-07-2012, 05:23 PM	#1
jmc67 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA	KK board questions - setup So I got the KK black board version 5.5 (Atmega 168PA). I think firmware version 2.5 (x) is loaded and I also have the USBasp programmer. I have a few questions since I'm not familiar with this board. 1. Is there a way to tell what firmware is loaded on the board? 2. What flashtool is recommended? I have kkmulticopterflashtool v0.62 and AVR Studio 4. AVR is giving error when trying to select programmer. The other flash tool loads. 3. Can the board get damaged if you set the wrong settings upon flashing? 4. Is there a difference in firmware between blue and black?

06-07-2012, 11:58 PM	#2
petedee Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canberra, Australia	1. Possibly but I have never bothered just load what you want to try next. 2. Use KK or Extreme Burner. 3. Highly unlikely. 4. Choose the firmware from the list in KK according to your board and you can't go to far wrong, most I think now like 4.7 from Kaptain K or 2.5 from Minsoo Kim. __________________ DJI Naza 330, 450 & 550 hexa, TBS Discovery (Naza-M/5.8Ghz vid link/ET telemetry), KK2 micro hexa and micro quad, Nano Ladybird/Spektrum Hybrid, Nano MQX hybrid. 300X, Trex 450 Pro DFC, mCP X's, mSR X, nano CP X DX18, 14SG To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-08-2012, 04:25 PM	#3
bstanley72 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Charlotte, NC	This might help: http://flitetest.com/articles/HK_Qua...er_Programming I watched it last night, I believe they said it is the KK board. __________________ Compass Atom 500, DJI 450 Flame Wheel, mCPX Brushless, Nano CPX, T-28 Trojan, "Crash Proof" Hawk Sky, DX8, overinflated sense of self worth!

06-10-2012, 08:07 PM	#5
petedee Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canberra, Australia	I would have thought you would need more than 0% on pitch, especially considering you have an oscillation during transition to FF. __________________ DJI Naza 330, 450 & 550 hexa, TBS Discovery (Naza-M/5.8Ghz vid link/ET telemetry), KK2 micro hexa and micro quad, Nano Ladybird/Spektrum Hybrid, Nano MQX hybrid. 300X, Trex 450 Pro DFC, mCP X's, mSR X, nano CP X DX18, 14SG To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-10-2012, 08:44 PM	#6
jmc67 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA	I tried setting the roll (P) and got it where it hovers nice and also set it for forward flight so that it does not pitch up using pitch (I) but still get a slight oscillation coming to a hover. The quad is/was a Walker UFO MX400. All electronics removed. Here is the setup. Original Walkera MX400 frame, motors and props. KK board v5.5 running firmware v4.7 Power distribution board Hobbywing FlyFun 30A Brushless ESC Spektrum AR600 rx Spektrum DX7 tx Attached Thumbnails

06-09-2012, 08:23 PM	#4
jmc67 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA	Very informative video, thanks. I loaded fw 4.7 from a hex file (taken from rcgroups) with no issues. Everything is setup but have a very small oscillation from forward flight to a hover. My pots settings are roll 40%, pitch 0% and yaw 50%. Does anyone know if firmware v4.7 supports changing flight mode with the tx like you can with v2.5? What are the differences between the different modes?

06-15-2012, 11:45 PM	#8
bobepine Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Taiwan	did you calibrate your ESCs? Individually using the RX and all at once using the TX? Chris

06-18-2012, 03:26 PM	#11
petedee Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canberra, Australia	Those FY-90Q boards look interesting with lots of features, how is it going? I would try one but currently using four different boards already.... __________________ DJI Naza 330, 450 & 550 hexa, TBS Discovery (Naza-M/5.8Ghz vid link/ET telemetry), KK2 micro hexa and micro quad, Nano Ladybird/Spektrum Hybrid, Nano MQX hybrid. 300X, Trex 450 Pro DFC, mCP X's, mSR X, nano CP X DX18, 14SG To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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