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WayneBrown · 08-06-2006, 04:56 AM

neither jurisdiction wants it..

ClayK · 08-06-2006, 07:57 AM

makes sense...

Burden of proof doesn't have to be overbearing in a civil trial, that can still be pursued.

spork · 08-06-2006, 10:09 AM

I have to wonder whether the shop owner could hand the heli over to the local authorities as a suspected stolen item. Perhaps this would relieve him of the liability of dealing with it either way. He could tell both parties that he's done this, and why. Then both parties could make thier case to the authorities. I suspect the rightful owner would walk away with the heli. But it wouldn't be without a fair amount of effort. The icing is the chance that the thief might even be prosecuted.

WillJames · 08-06-2006, 10:33 AM

VERY good idea Rick!!

WayneBrown · 08-06-2006, 10:45 AM

I'll mention it to him this coming week, I go past there twice a day..

ClayK · 08-06-2006, 03:20 PM

The problem might be that if ownership can't be established, it gets put on the auction block. But, the flip side to that would be the thief wouldn't ever see a dime from it.

Testimony from oodles of people should be enough to establish proof of ownership. Any documentation would be helpful of course.

Rodney · 08-06-2006, 05:00 PM

This is the only thing that I have left linking me to him.
Merry Christmas to you Rodney, and I call you when it comes in...
And the Pitts WILL be on it way soon.

Thanks Again,
Charles Jackson

Rodney · 08-06-2006, 05:01 PM

That is a pm that somhow never got deleted.

Clintstone · 08-06-2006, 11:37 PM

Where did it get shipped to?

Finless · 08-07-2006, 03:06 PM

How about paying for the heli with a person to person check! e.g. The real owner goes in and writes a check to the sellers name. Then walks out with the heli. When the seller comes in, the shop owner hands him the check BUT the seller cant cash it as it has been cancelled because the buyer called the bank and stopped payment. Then if the seller wants to take recourse he can TRY but the shop owner is now out of the loop as he sold it and it is off his hands!

Heck not to screw the shop owner but someone could even walk in and buy it with a credit card and then stop payment... I doubt the shop owner would do anything about it and claim the fraud.

Bob

WayneBrown · 09-19-2006, 07:48 PM

I am still looking

Finless · 09-19-2006, 08:14 PM

Man... I cant believe this guy has not got his heli back yet!

Bob

scottsr · 09-20-2006, 01:31 PM

I have found out one thing in my many years and the couple times I have went to court with family that was with overwhelming evidence that there should be a open and shut case the police agreed the lawyer agreed and guess what ??? WE LOST it was unbelievable when that judge said that we lost you could hear all the jaws hit the floor . I will never trust the courts ever again . And if I were you I wouldn't either ! Good Luck My Friend !

trucku · 12-08-2006, 12:47 AM

Newbie to the site, just finished reading this thread. Sorry to hear that there are such crappy people always looking to make up their life by cheating others.

Good Luck Rodney on getting your machine back.

I say if you ever see that thief don't hesitate to talk, just smash his face then talk.

LLB757 · 12-10-2006, 10:22 AM

Call the State Attorney General's office for the state they are in. They might have some advice, or possibly can help. The office in Washington state helped a friend’s small business recover money from a similar low life.

bigrcr · 12-15-2006, 08:19 PM

Actually, if I were the shop owner I would be more afraid of being in possession of stolen goods and to top it all off, retaining those goods once the situation and owner has been found.

08-06-2006, 07:57 AM	#82
ClayK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: VA	makes sense... Burden of proof doesn't have to be overbearing in a civil trial, that can still be pursued. __________________ Veni, Vidi, Velcro I came, I saw, I stuck around Bringing people out of Radio Shack and into the hobby. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. μολὼν λαβέ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

08-06-2006, 10:09 AM	#83
spork Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mtn View, CA (S.F. Bay Area)	I have to wonder whether the shop owner could hand the heli over to the local authorities as a suspected stolen item. Perhaps this would relieve him of the liability of dealing with it either way. He could tell both parties that he's done this, and why. Then both parties could make thier case to the authorities. I suspect the rightful owner would walk away with the heli. But it wouldn't be without a fair amount of effort. The icing is the chance that the thief might even be prosecuted. __________________ Nothing is ever as good or as bad as it seems.

08-06-2006, 10:33 AM	#84
WillJames HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Western, NC	VERY good idea Rick!! __________________ William James To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If you fly you are going to crash. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-06-2006, 03:20 PM	#86
ClayK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: VA	The problem might be that if ownership can't be established, it gets put on the auction block. But, the flip side to that would be the thief wouldn't ever see a dime from it. Testimony from oodles of people should be enough to establish proof of ownership. Any documentation would be helpful of course. __________________ Veni, Vidi, Velcro I came, I saw, I stuck around Bringing people out of Radio Shack and into the hobby. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. μολὼν λαβέ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

08-06-2006, 05:00 PM	#87
Rodney Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Cloud, Florida	This is the only thing that I have left linking me to him. Merry Christmas to you Rodney, and I call you when it comes in... And the Pitts WILL be on it way soon. Thanks Again, Charles Jackson __________________ Radikal G20 Ion Powered DX7 Infina Models ION Batteries.Transmitter and Receiver Lithuim Ion Dual Pack For Radikal

08-06-2006, 04:56 AM	#81
WayneBrown Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: GA USA	neither jurisdiction wants it..

08-06-2006, 10:45 AM	#85
WayneBrown Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: GA USA	I'll mention it to him this coming week, I go past there twice a day..

08-06-2006, 05:01 PM	#88
Rodney Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Cloud, Florida	That is a pm that somhow never got deleted. __________________ Radikal G20 Ion Powered DX7 Infina Models ION Batteries.Transmitter and Receiver Lithuim Ion Dual Pack For Radikal

08-06-2006, 11:37 PM	#89
Clintstone Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Statesboro, GA	Where did it get shipped to? __________________ Clint Akins

08-07-2006, 03:06 PM	#90
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	How about paying for the heli with a person to person check! e.g. The real owner goes in and writes a check to the sellers name. Then walks out with the heli. When the seller comes in, the shop owner hands him the check BUT the seller cant cash it as it has been cancelled because the buyer called the bank and stopped payment. Then if the seller wants to take recourse he can TRY but the shop owner is now out of the loop as he sold it and it is off his hands! Heck not to screw the shop owner but someone could even walk in and buy it with a credit card and then stop payment... I doubt the shop owner would do anything about it and claim the fraud. Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

09-19-2006, 07:48 PM	#91
WayneBrown Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: GA USA	Lost I am still looking

09-19-2006, 08:14 PM	#92
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	Man... I cant believe this guy has not got his heli back yet! Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

09-20-2006, 01:31 PM	#93
scottsr Registered Users Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seaford Delaware	I have found out one thing in my many years and the couple times I have went to court with family that was with overwhelming evidence that there should be a open and shut case the police agreed the lawyer agreed and guess what ??? WE LOST it was unbelievable when that judge said that we lost you could hear all the jaws hit the floor . I will never trust the courts ever again . And if I were you I wouldn't either ! Good Luck My Friend ! __________________ - Logo 10 streched out Hacker C50 13L W/ 13 tooth pinoin and 200 tooth main gear Schulze 18.46 ESC cool power BEC JR 9303 RX JR 368 on cyclics Futaba GY401 w/9254 on the tail 550 glass blades All powered by 4S4P 8000 MaH Lipo's (on it's way Sparton AP2000i w/ FMA sensor) ><> Happy Flying Scott Sr. ><>

12-08-2006, 12:47 AM	#94
trucku Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Queens, New York City	Newbie to the site, just finished reading this thread. Sorry to hear that there are such crappy people always looking to make up their life by cheating others. Good Luck Rodney on getting your machine back. I say if you ever see that thief don't hesitate to talk, just smash his face then talk.

12-10-2006, 10:22 AM	#95
LLB757 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MDW	Call the State Attorney General's office for the state they are in. They might have some advice, or possibly can help. The office in Washington state helped a friend’s small business recover money from a similar low life.

12-15-2006, 08:19 PM	#96
bigrcr Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Easley,SC	Actually, if I were the shop owner I would be more afraid of being in possession of stolen goods and to top it all off, retaining those goods once the situation and owner has been found. __________________ BIGRCR- John Garst Toxic Racing Motors IRCHA #1716

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